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1AD/4AD cycle help

cmdubs

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I'll be starting a 6 week cycle of 1AD in a few weeks. I've done 2 cycles before. The 2nd one I was using 600 mg 1AD and 600 mg 4AD. I stopped taking the 4AD about 1 week in becasue my nipples started to get sore and I freaked out. I also cut the 1AD cycle short because the lethargy was too much, think I lasted maybe 4 weeks.

This time around I'm only going to be using 300mg and try to make it the whole 6 weeks. I've still got most of the 4AD left over from before. I was wondering if I take 300mg 4AD if it will help with the lethargy and shut down and hopefully not get the sore nips.

Karma for advice.
 
Is the 4AD oral or transdermal? 4AD is used to combat lethargy and aid in a potential loss of libido, caused by 1AD. Also, don't forget 6OXO for PCT ;)
 
yeah it's oral, that's the main reason I want to use it is to battle the sides..but wondering if 300mg would be effective or a waste.

ordering 6-oxo pronto...is this stuff gonna be banned too??
 
Okay thanks I'll start out with 600mg...any idea why it would cause sore nipples??

I've never had that with 1AD.
 
I believe the sore nipples would have been caused by the 4AD since it converts to a hormone that arromatizes (turns to estrogen).

The 1AD would have been less likely to cause this. You were quite right to stop. If it happens again, I believe the correct thing to do is to come off the prohormones and get on an estrogen blocker. The 6oxo seems to be the best for that OTC from what I've seen.

Maybe you should have some Skulpt on hand to spray on your nipples in this case as well. According to PA's site (ergopharm.com) it can be used for this.

Nukdae
 
Hey, I'm doing a 4 week cycle of 1ad/4ad right now. Is this too short? Am I blowing it with such a short cycle?

Nukdae
 
nukdae said:
Hey, I'm doing a 4 week cycle of 1ad/4ad right now. Is this too short? Am I blowing it with such a short cycle?

Nukdae

Ideally, it takes roughly 3 weeks for you to notice some gains. Most cycles are 4-8 weeks, with the majority ending around 6 weeks, with 4-6 week PCT.
 
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