19-nor prohormones

[runlift22]

I'm looking for a good 19-nor prohormone. Any recommendations? I am female, and I'm posting this here because I wanted to get some male advice since most of the females on the female forum have not used prohormones.

I have read that the 19-nor prohormones have very low androgenic effects so I am hoping there is something out there that will not cause hair loss, etc, bbut give me a little edge in strength and mass.

 

[eddymerckx]

I'm looking for a good 19-nor prohormone. Any recommendations? I am female, and I'm posting this here because I wanted to get some male advice since most of the females on the female forum have not used prohormones.

I have read that the 19-nor prohormones have very low androgenic effects so I am hoping there is something out there that will not cause hair loss, etc, bbut give me a little edge in strength and mass.

the side effects will be the same as the traditional anabolics, but the reason i would suggest you use the real stuff is that there is at least some decent information out there regarding how women react--i am afraid there could be surprises in prohormones--and not even sure you would convert them that well in the first place----when in doubt, do not do it. just my .02

 

[ALIN]

I'm looking for a good 19-nor prohormone. Any recommendations? I am female, and I'm posting this here because I wanted to get some male advice since most of the females on the female forum have not used prohormones.

I have read that the 19-nor prohormones have very low androgenic effects so I am hoping there is something out there that will not cause hair loss, etc, bbut give me a little edge in strength and mass.

You would be much better off with another choice IMO
Women do well on CLENBUTEROL and is non-hormonal.

 

[runlift22]

You would be much better off with another choice IMO
Women do well on CLENBUTEROL and is non-hormonal.

Can Clen be used for mass gains though? I'm looking to Put ON muscle and weight, not lose any

 

[Just Add Muscle]

I'm looking for a good 19-nor prohormone. Any recommendations? I am female, and I'm posting this here because I wanted to get some male advice since most of the females on the female forum have not used prohormones.

I have read that the 19-nor prohormones have very low androgenic effects so I am hoping there is something out there that will not cause hair loss, etc, bbut give me a little edge in strength and mass.

You dont want the 19 nor products,they are a bit harsh for women even though they do not aromatize and are not androgenic.What women I know have used including my Wife and a few female athletes I know and been ok with is Furazadrol by Axis Labs.

 

[Donnie Darko]

I've known girls that have done the Nor-pro's and still had the negative side effects. I think I have only known one woman who could use either the prohormones or the real stuff, but do it in such a way that it didn't bother her, but she was one out of dozens.

 

[runlift22]

You dont want the 19 nor products,they are a bit harsh for women even though they do not aromatize and are not androgenic.What women I know have used including my Wife and a few female athletes I know and been ok with is Furazadrol by Axis Labs.

thanks, so did they experience hair loss/ voice changes with it at all? what dose did they use? Is this something they sell in supplement stores/online?

 

[Just Add Muscle]

thanks, so did they experience hair loss/ voice changes with it at all? what dose did they use? Is this something they sell in supplement stores/online?

You can get it from us at Justaddmuscle.com go under Axis Labs and the neame of the product is Furazadrol.Most women use 2 a day.It does not do any of the above.

 

[Burpees]

what's wrong with var? or super low dose test?

 

[REGIONS]

Infinite Labs Cyclo Tren and ACL Tren Extreme are 19 Nor ph's that are quite popular.

 

[Just Add Muscle]

Infinite Labs Cyclo Tren and ACL Tren Extreme are 19 Nor ph's that are quite popular.

Yes but not for women.

 

[runlift22]

thank you. How long can I run it? How much muscle can I expect to gain with this stacked with proper training/diet?

 

[Just Add Muscle]

thank you. How long can I run it? How much muscle can I expect to gain with this stacked with proper training/diet?

You can gain a solid 5-10 lbs in one month if your diet and training is on.

 

[runlift22]

You can gain a solid 5-10 lbs in one month if your diet and training is on.

great, thanks. SHould I start with 1 cap/day or do the whole dose of 2 caps?

 

[Just Add Muscle]

great, thanks. SHould I start with 1 cap/day or do the whole dose of 2 caps?

1cap first few days.

 

[Rebecca D]

I did a bottle of Bold 200 in June. Did over 5 weeks, taking 2 caps daily for three weeks, and had great results. (This was my first prohormone). After 10 weeks off I tried a bottle of FURAZADROL for five weeks. Did one cap a day for one week and two caps a day for three weeks and one cap a day for one week. Worked out hard and ate well but only had minimal strength gains. I just finished and was wondering if I will still see results the next few weeks. Also, I have a bottle of Bold 200 and a bottle of FURAZADROL, would this be a good stack. I have read on other forums that FURAZADROL works better when stacked. I really loved the results I got on the Bold and was wondering if this stack could improve these results. I added as much size and strength in a month as I had in the previous two years on the Bold and would love to add more. I'm benching 120 and want to reach 135. I'm squatting 205 and want 225. So far the only sides I've had were back acne (much worse with the bold)and a slight sensation in my privates at the end of the bold cycle. Just a little acne with the FURAZADROL but nothing else. What would you recommend. I have been lifting hard for over 5 years and desperately want to put on size and strength.

Thank you,

Rebecca D

 

[lookinfit75]

Whoa this is totally cool to have the ladies adding to the roid forum. Welcome ladies. I don't have much to add other than an excerpt from Author L. Rae's "Chemical Muscle Enhancement" in reference to Anavar (Oxandrolone):
"The drug Oxandrolone was originally manufactured to be used by women to prevent osteoporosis and for children as a cure for stunted growth. The low androgenic quality prevents almost all virilization for women in dosages of 15-mg daily or less. and for the same reason does not cause closure of the epiphysial plates prematurely. An interesting note: Oxandrolone does not suppress any part of the HPTA. This means Oxandrolone by itself will not significantly suppress natural testosterone production. Therefore it was not uncommon for some athletes to report post-cycle HPTA regeneration protocols that included this drug. The result was prominent lean mass retention."

The reason I brought up Anavar is because I know at least one woman that competes and she's used this compound. The only thing I noticed was that her voice changed somewhat. Other than than that, I didn't notice anything. I don't anything about her private area because even though we are cool, we aint that cool. I just spot her heavy lifts lol.
For the guys: this was taken from a book and is not my opinion. With that being said, that is the reason I underlined that part of the excerpt to see what other have to say about it. I know Layinback has used Var quite a bit and might have some info.

 

[Strategus]

Very interesting post.

Do you mind if I ask what your bench/squats were before starting the Bold200, just to get an idea of the strength increase? I assume your 120lbs is a maxed-out single, or are you lifting 120 for reps (how many)? Were you eating above maintenance or at maintenance?

I'm aware of anavar, but one thing to consider is that Bold200 is legal.

Not considering this anytime real soon - just picking up some info.

Thanks -

I did a bottle of Bold 200 in June. Did over 5 weeks, taking 2 caps daily for three weeks, and had great results. (This was my first prohormone). After 10 weeks off I tried a bottle of FURAZADROL for five weeks. Did one cap a day for one week and two caps a day for three weeks and one cap a day for one week. Worked out hard and ate well but only had minimal strength gains. I just finished and was wondering if I will still see results the next few weeks. Also, I have a bottle of Bold 200 and a bottle of FURAZADROL, would this be a good stack. I have read on other forums that FURAZADROL works better when stacked. I really loved the results I got on the Bold and was wondering if this stack could improve these results. I added as much size and strength in a month as I had in the previous two years on the Bold and would love to add more. I'm benching 120 and want to reach 135. I'm squatting 205 and want 225. So far the only sides I've had were back acne (much worse with the bold)and a slight sensation in my privates at the end of the bold cycle. Just a little acne with the FURAZADROL but nothing else. What would you recommend. I have been lifting hard for over 5 years and desperately want to put on size and strength.

Thank you,

Rebecca D

 

[Rebecca D]

My one rep max on bench was 105 before the Bold. I maxed out about 2 weeks after I finished the bottle. I did two reps of 120 and might have gotten a third if I had tried. My squat max was 185 for two reps before the Bold. After I finished the bottle I did 205 once but it was hard. I've kept my strength in bench but have cut back on the squats. I'm definitely a novice at this so all I can describe is how I felt....and that was stronger. Some of my gains might be related to increased intensity, but not all. The only real sides I experienced was back acne (noticable) and a delayed period. This was my first cycle of anything...legal or not.

Hope this is helpful

Rebecca D

 

[Strategus]

Rebecca -

That is an AWESOMEly helpful answer!!!! I hope you keep those gains!!!! I think you will, if you keep eating well consistently and wait until spring to diet/cut.

My current max bench is 95 lbs. 100 is my next goal and after that 105....

I'm in my early 40's ~137 lbs 5'2" lifting since April '07. (a bit before then that was sort of erratic).

I'm also trying out DHEA 100 mg/day with little/no sides. My first supp other than whey/multivit/fish oil. Aunt Flo is keeping to her schedule (that ol'gal hardly cares if the economy is crashing LOL) and everything else normal.

I'll take rhe DHEA a few more weeks, and then nothing for a while.

You go girl! Very interesting info, and it's interesting to see results from a "law-abiding" but nontheless hormonal supp. like Bold200.

Thanks again!

My one rep max on bench was 105 before the Bold. I maxed out about 2 weeks after I finished the bottle. I did two reps of 120 and might have gotten a third if I had tried. My squat max was 185 for two reps before the Bold. After I finished the bottle I did 205 once but it was hard. I've kept my strength in bench but have cut back on the squats. I'm definitely a novice at this so all I can describe is how I felt....and that was stronger. Some of my gains might be related to increased intensity, but not all. The only real sides I experienced was back acne (noticable) and a delayed period. This was my first cycle of anything...legal or not.

Hope this is helpful

Rebecca D

 

[ironwings]

Whoa this is totally cool to have the ladies adding to the roid forum. Welcome ladies. I don't have much to add other than an excerpt from Author L. Rae's "Chemical Muscle Enhancement" in reference to Anavar (Oxandrolone):
"The drug Oxandrolone was originally manufactured to be used by women to prevent osteoporosis and for children as a cure for stunted growth. The low androgenic quality prevents almost all virilization for women in dosages of 15-mg daily or less. and for the same reason does not cause closure of the epiphysial plates prematurely. An interesting note: Oxandrolone does not suppress any part of the HPTA. This means Oxandrolone by itself will not significantly suppress natural testosterone production. Therefore it was not uncommon for some athletes to report post-cycle HPTA regeneration protocols that included this drug. The result was prominent lean mass retention."

The reason I brought up Anavar is because I know at least one woman that competes and she's used this compound. The only thing I noticed was that her voice changed somewhat. Other than than that, I didn't notice anything. I don't anything about her private area because even though we are cool, we aint that cool. I just spot her heavy lifts lol.
For the guys: this was taken from a book and is not my opinion. With that being said, that is the reason I underlined that part of the excerpt to see what other have to say about it. I know Layinback has used Var quite a bit and might have some info.

VAR is fantastic - particularly when used while cutting - but it sounds like she wants something legal. I've never had any voice change on it though - lol - the compound itself doesn't have anything in it that would cause a deepening voice. Interesting.

 

[Rebecca D]

Strategus

One thing I might be careful with is jumping into prohormones after only a year or two of working out. I just turned 40 but I've been working out for 10 years and lifting heavy and serious for about five. I made steady gains for about four years and tried the Bold when I hit a plateau. It definitely works but other things have to be in place as well. The big thing is diet. All diets are a work in progress and mine is still probably only 80% of what it should be. (I blame it on beer and chocolate).

Thanks again for the compliments and keep working hard and improving your diet.

Rebecca D

Rebecca -

That is an AWESOMEly helpful answer!!!! I hope you keep those gains!!!! I think you will, if you keep eating well consistently and wait until spring to diet/cut.

My current max bench is 95 lbs. 100 is my next goal and after that 105....

I'm in my early 40's ~137 lbs 5'2" lifting since April '07. (a bit before then that was sort of erratic).

I'm also trying out DHEA 100 mg/day with little/no sides. My first supp other than whey/multivit/fish oil. Aunt Flo is keeping to her schedule (that ol'gal hardly cares if the economy is crashing LOL) and everything else normal.

I'll take rhe DHEA a few more weeks, and then nothing for a while.

You go girl! Very interesting info, and it's interesting to see results from a "law-abiding" but nontheless hormonal supp. like Bold200.

Thanks again!