I reckon Nortesten is pretty good as far as Pro Hormones go. Aim for 3 tabs 1 hour b4 your workout or 1st thing in the morn on non workout days. You mention that you are considering dipping your toe into roids for greater gains. Before even considering this option, make sure the fundamentals are in place first. (Good clean diet - plenty of protein, adequate rest periods - no overtraining, balls to the wall intensity during workouts). Roids should be the icing on the cake to a first class regime and will not compensate for a lazy ass attitude to the iron game.