17aa's and cholesterol

[Hoss]

Am I correct in saying the main culprit in raising LDL's and lowering HDL's are the orals?

 

[luv2lift!]

Most likely it is from the orals, depending on what else you are taking.

 

[HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex]

Yes,you are correct.

 

[Realgains]

17aa orals are not only increase total serum cholesterol A LOT but they cause the good cholesterol(hdl) to drop to low levels. As most also know they are toxic to the liver to some degree and should be limited to six weeks use at a time max IMO.

I wouldn't touch them if you payed me, especially since we have such great injectables in all sorts of esters. I would put a test/tren cycle over a anything/d-bol cycle any day. ...as far as gains are concerned.

 

[wilson6]

For the most part. There have been a couple of papers out there that have shown some mild supression of HDL with doses of Test or deca at 600 mg/wk, but the effects are far less than what you'd get with 1/4 that weekly dose of a C-17 aa oral.

W6