16 week Test Cyp, Primobolan, Tren ace(?)

[magnum1]

Ok guys so it's nearing that time again. I still have some time to wait so im using it to plan out a smooth cycle. last time I ran a test cyp 600 wk, var 50ed. also ran a 10 mo gh run. that's just now coming to an end. I was impressed with the recomp and size I started seeing last time on a 12wk and would like to try and achieve a little more this time.
I had anast., hcg, forma during and used clomid, forma, unleashed, post cycle for a smooth pct.
This time I'm wanting to stay with the test cyp 600wk(300x2) and I'm not sure on the doses primo(bolan). I've done some research and I was thinking about running 600 but I'm really looking for feedback on it. Also I did pick up some tren ace but I'm on the fence with it and just might wait until my next run just for the sake of getting a little more experience under my belt. My goals are definitely trying to change my comp again. add some size, then tone and trim some bf.
my diet last time was between 3500-4000 cal but I'll admit trying to get the 4000 all clean was tough so I did have some cheat meals throughout the week, but otherwise it was fairly clean(no processed or junk). Any feedback or advice on doses etc would be awesome. I don't mind doing some research if you guys have any old posts you think I should be reading but at this time I'm trying to filter out some of the common discussion and boil down solid advice or experiences.
once again guys I appreciate the advice and try my best to put it to work.
stats
6'3
225
32
15bf(at the moment but trying to get it to 12 for cycle)
5 yrs

 

[Texas Monster]

Definitely save the tren for another cycle.

If I were you I would just stick with the Primo and Test and either

A) Do an oral kick start with some TBOL at 40mg

B) Do a NPP kickstart.

Either way I would definitely cap the cycle with some winstrol going into your pct.

And There is no need to run TEST that long. You said you want to get more out of your cycle......well you get more out of your cycle when you can recover faster and cycle again sooner. This way you are able to keep more of your gains and go back on cycle a lot sooner to keep making gains. It is a win win.

My ideal cycle If I were you would be.

Week 1-12 Test C 600mg
Week 1-12 Primo 500mg
Week 1-10 NPP 420 mg
Week 9-14 Winstrol 60mg ed
Week 1-8 HCGenerate
Week 9-14 HCG 500ius
Week 13-14 HMG ( 1 shot 75 iu a week)
Week 12-18 N2Slin
Week 9-14 N2GAURD

PCT week 15
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma
DAA
PCT+UNLEASHED

Week 19-22
Bridge
PHytoserms 347

 

[RickRock13]

Definitely save the tren for another cycle.

If I were you I would just stick with the Primo and Test and either

A) Do an oral kick start with some TBOL at 40mg

B) Do a NPP kickstart.

Either way I would definitely cap the cycle with some winstrol going into your pct.

And There is no need to run TEST that long. You said you want to get more out of your cycle......well you get more out of your cycle when you can recover faster and cycle again sooner. This way you are able to keep more of your gains and go back on cycle a lot sooner to keep making gains. It is a win win.

My ideal cycle If I were you would be.

Week 1-12 Test C 600mg
Week 1-12 Primo 500mg
Week 1-10 NPP 420 mg
Week 9-14 Winstrol 60mg ed
Week 1-8 HCGenerate
Week 9-14 HCG 500ius
Week 13-14 HMG ( 1 shot 75 iu a week)
Week 12-18 N2Slin
Week 9-14 N2GAURD

PCT week 15
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma
DAA
PCT+UNLEASHED

Week 19-22
Bridge
PHytoserms 347

^Great advice right there

 

[dylangemelli]

Definitely save the tren for another cycle.

If I were you I would just stick with the Primo and Test and either

A) Do an oral kick start with some TBOL at 40mg

B) Do a NPP kickstart.

Either way I would definitely cap the cycle with some winstrol going into your pct.

And There is no need to run TEST that long. You said you want to get more out of your cycle......well you get more out of your cycle when you can recover faster and cycle again sooner. This way you are able to keep more of your gains and go back on cycle a lot sooner to keep making gains. It is a win win.

My ideal cycle If I were you would be.

Week 1-12 Test C 600mg
Week 1-12 Primo 500mg
Week 1-10 NPP 420 mg
Week 9-14 Winstrol 60mg ed
Week 1-8 HCGenerate
Week 9-14 HCG 500ius
Week 13-14 HMG ( 1 shot 75 iu a week)
Week 12-18 N2Slin
Week 9-14 N2GAURD

PCT week 15
Clomid 25/25/25/25
Forma
DAA
PCT+UNLEASHED

Week 19-22
Bridge
PHytoserms 347

i like this set up for the most part... the one thing i would change would be to run primo at least 14 weeks... 16 would be optimal but i feel 12 weeks is not enough... otherwise, nice setup here... I LOVE winstrol on the back end of any cycle...