12 Week Cycle - Deca or Test?

[jh1]

All you People SUCK, Here is why:

Just kidding.... my last title didn't get any attention....

While you are here take a look. I want to know wether I should use Deca or Test in a 12 week cycle.

Okay all you pros out there:

On a twelve week cycle for an AAS newbie... would you recommend Deca or Test when stacked with Var?

Give me the pros and cons of each as you see it with a 12 week cycle in mind.

Thanks
JH1

 

[gainerxxl]

That´s an easy one:
Use test, a simple and beautiful substance your body knows and can handle.
It´s cheaper than deca, it gives better results regarding strenght and look (the ox will give you plenty purely anabolic effects, no need to waste time with deca) and it won´t shut you down harder than deca will (rather the opposite, your HTPA recovers faster fro a test cycle than from a sucky progesteronic, everlasting nandrolone ester).
Since you are a newbie, all you´ll need is 250mg of enanthate or sust every 5 days, a dose that rarela causes serioud side effects. No need for anti e´s (just have some Nolva at hand) and Clom or No,va will aid in recovery, while both won´t do shit for you after coming off deca.
Convinced?

 

[jh1]

Convinced?

Not sure yet.... more like gathering evidence. What about Deca not aromatizing easily at the right doses?

 

[oubeta]

Deca always makes my nips itch. I'd stay clear of deca and go with test for sure.

 

[jh1]

Hmmm.. itchy nipples? I beleive I have heard of itchy nipples from test as well...

Any other reasons to go one way or another?

Help me out bros....

 

[jh1]

HELP !!?!???!!

 

[Surgical]

Without a doubt it's test. No need to continue with your search for the right substance to stack with Var. Not many fans of Deca on this board, that's for sure, except maybe 2Thick

Test all the way

 

[jh1]

Yeah... but why? WHY FOR GOD's sake WHY?

 

[Surgical]

Much better gains!!! Doesn't shut you down like Deca can.

Do some research on Var cycles. I doubt you'll ever see it stacked with Deca.

 

[gainerxxl]

I think I already said it all. 250mg test/every 5 days will give you way better strenght gains, a better look and most don´t bloat at all using only about 350mg test/week.
If you do get puffy nipples, Nolva will help fast, while deca nipples are hard to come by, bromocriptine is a way harsher drug than nolva is. You might wanna take a look at a bottle of L-dex every day, that´s going to keep all the bloat away at that tiny amount of test (just kidding).

Although people here didn´t really buy it, natural zinc in bioavaliable form (e.g. chelate, histidine, piccolinate), taken at 100mg/day for the duration of the cylcle will keep any bloat away (over here in Germany many juicers take high dosed zinc as the sole anti-E when using test up to 500mg/week with great success)

The var is highly anabolic and not androgenic at all, why stack it with another substance that has the same properteis + shuts you down like no other roid and is more expensive than test?

 

[jh1]

I heard Deca doesn't aromotize at the doses I would use though... unlike Test?

What else do we have?

 

[jh1]

Dial_Tone -

All I am asking is the pros and cons of each substance - Deca and Test for combination with Var on a 12 week cycle.

To make it simple - Give me the pros and cons of Deca and Test as they compare to each other. Forget about everything else - it is unimportant at this point.

I allready know you prefer the shorter cycles and prefer to avoid the anti-e's and HCG and stuff... I don't disagree. I just want to know what would make Deca better... or what would make Test better.

JH1