1-Test? What is it?

[Sterone]

Why haven't I heard about 1-Test before? The article says it doesn't convert to estrogen. What about DHT conversion?

 

[hunin]

you have not heard about i test before ,because it's a crock of shit
do not waste your hard earned greenbacks on that bull shit.
hunin

 

[Willyumyum]

Defenitely don't waste your money on a supp that claims to be more anabolic than test... Most likely they are talking out of their puckers....

YUM

 

[maccer]

I would do a search if I was you before you listen to the last two replies, many experienced lifters have used this supplement and achieved good results

 

[HighIntensity]

are you blind there is tons of info on it right here...read and then decide, don't listen to people who don't know

 

[Par Deus]

Why do people insist on making statements when they have zero clue???

Just curious.

1-test was found to be 7+ times as anabolic as test in a levator ani study -- that is a fact.

 

[Sterone]

I haven't heard of it until the other day. It looks like bros have done well on it. It is a DTH derivitave though and I just read that it does have the MPB side effects associated with DHT. Well that was what I was wanting to know, whether or not it would cause hairloss. I'm wanting to be careful here for that sake of keeping my hair so I guess I'll pass on the 1-Test.

 

[Par Deus]

I'm wanting to be careful here for that sake of keeping my hair so I guess I'll pass on the 1-Test.

If you are paranoid about hairloss, the only choice would be a Nordiol product.

 

[Blood&Iron]

Why do people insist on making statements when they have zero clue???

Just curious.

1-test was found to be 7+ times as anabolic as test in a levator ani study -- that is a fact.

I have refined your own quote of "People are generally more opinionated than knowledgeable." I call it Par Deus' Law:
"The less one knows about a subject, the more vociferously he will state his opinion on said subject."

 

[Par Deus]

I have refined your own quote of "People are generally more opinionated than knowledgeable." I call it Par Deus' Law:
"The less one knows about a subject, the more vociferously he will state his opinion on said subject."

 

[pa1ad]

I have refined your own quote of "People are generally more opinionated than knowledgeable." I call it Par Deus' Law:
"The less one knows about a subject, the more vociferously he will state his opinion on said subject."

Can anyone say "Big Cat"?

 

[Sterone]

If you are paranoid about hairloss, the only choice would be a Nordiol product.

The problem with Nordiol is that the body only produces a limited amount of the enzyme that converts it into nandrolone. The conversion you get is only enough to introduce token amounts of nandrolone into your system. Enough to shut down HTPA/natural test production, without being enough to even take the place of the test that is no longer present. What happens then is muscle loss.

 

[Par Deus]

The problem with Nordiol is that the body only produces a limited amount of the enzyme that converts it into nandrolone. The conversion you get is only enough to introduce token amounts of nandrolone into your system. Enough to shut down HTPA/natural test production, without being enough to even take the place of the test that is no longer present. What happens then is muscle loss.

The main problem with the above paragraph is that it is false.

 

[young guns]

you say nordiol is the only option if worried about hair loss, what about 1,4 andro?

 

[Par Deus]

you say nordiol is the only option if worried about hair loss, what about 1,4 andro?

It would be better than 4-AD or a DHT precursor, but not as good as Nordiol, in that regards. I would think as you increased the dosage to make it comparably anabolic with 1-test/1-AD, it would be comparably androgenic, since it has to work through the AR -- but, perhaps it is deactivated like 19-Nors are, maybe Bill can chime in on this.

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

It would be better than 4-AD or a DHT precursor, but not as good as Nordiol, in that regards. I would think as you increased the dosage to make it comparably anabolic with 1-test/1-AD, it would be comparably androgenic, since it has to work through the AR -- but, perhaps it is deactivated like 19-Nors are, maybe Bill can chime in on this.

Boldenone is deactivated by 5-beta reductase, however I am unsure of the tissue distribution of this enzyme. It is pretty "anabolic" in nature, so 5-beta reductase may have a distribution pattern similar to 5-alpha, but I am guessing. Admittedly it is more androgenic than nandrolone, so I tell people it is the number 2 PH if you are concenred with hair loss, no 1 as you said being a 19-nor. I don't find that it really resembles 1-AD or 1-Test much in this regard, they seem to be notably more androgenic.

BTW- I myself find 1,4 a better anabolic (mass builder) than the 1-AD mg for mg, probably due to both its higher resistance to liver breakdown and slight estrogen conversion. You'll have to try it and let me know.

That old offer for a trade still stands, but now I'm thinking more along the lines of some boldiones for a bottle of ONE. Or maybe the Ethergels. This way we are both better prepared to argue over which works better

- Bill Llewellyn

 

[Par Deus]

That old offer for a trade still stands, but now I'm thinking more along the lines of some boldiones for a bottle of ONE. Or maybe the Ethergels. This way we are both better prepared to argue over which works better

I'll e-mail ya'

 

[bpdaddy]

Are the the 1-T Ethergels out yet? WHEN? Comeone Mr. llewellyn don't tease us

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Are the the 1-T Ethergels out yet? WHEN? Comeone Mr. llewellyn don't tease us

Sorry bpdaddy, didn't mean to get you all excited there too early. We should be looking at less than 2 weeks now. If it makes you feel any better, I get to start my run of them this week though.

- Bill Llewellyn

 

[ISN_Man]

Bill,
Be sure to keep us up to date of your progress and results on your cycle. Good luck bro!

 

[bpdaddy]

Yeah, up to date!

Definetely, I wanna know...I need to know where to through my money next cycle :-D

Can you give use any info on the product, other that what's on the webpage?

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Re: Yeah, up to date!

Can you give use any info on the product, other that what's on the webpage?

It's going to be in a clear bottle

What else would you like to know about it bp?

- Bill Llewellyn

 

[bpdaddy]

Re: Re: Yeah, up to date!

It's going to be in a clear bottle

What else would you like to know about it bp?

- Bill Llewellyn

Can you Email any studies done with it, any testamonies, personal experiences, side effects...

What is a recommended cycle (just 1-T)? Is it better mix mix it with 4diol like 1-ad? Not asking for much

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Re: Re: Re: Yeah, up to date!

Can you Email any studies done with it, any testamonies, personal experiences, side effects...

I am getting my first gels this week. Nobody has had a chance to use it yet. But I'll gladly tell you my thoughts in a few weeks. Side effects would be the same as for all 1-T products (androgenic, not estrogenic).

What is a recommended cycle (just 1-T)? Is it better mix mix it with 4diol like 1-ad? Not asking for much

I'm going to try 6-8 caps daily myself for about 8 weeks. I think you will probably not need that much to see results though. I recommend a max of 6 on the bottle.

Yes, for mass it would be good to stack it with an estrogenic steroid. I'd recommend either 4-AD, or my 1,4-andro of course.

- Bill Llewellyn

 

[bpdaddy]

Thanks!

Thank You Mr. Llewellyn...I will give them a try when I see them out...I have found one Internet site selling them for $50, John Mullen's site can't remember URL of hand.

 

[Lumberg]

Help please PH gurus--what mechanism converts 1-Test to DHT?

I am doing a One+ cycle soon and am concerned about hairloss. I was thinking about getting my dermo to prescribe Propecia but am wondering what good it will do.

Is it the same enzyme that converts test to DHT (5-alpha-reductase)?

Thanks for any and all help,

JC