1-AD vs Real Deal

[Steve116]

I'm considering juicing this summer but I have a trainer friend who is telling me that Ergo Pharm 1-AD is just as potent as many real deal steroids but is less abusive on the liver. He was telling me to try a 1-AD and 4-AD stack for a month before trying the real deal stuff. This may seem like a joke to some of you, but do any of you pros know if this stuff works good? I'm not trying to look huge, just cut and solid... Thanks
Steve

 

[Tony104104]

What are your stats?How long you been lifting?

I've seen people that took 1AD and it seemed just to put some water weight on them....They also had to take 3 times the dosage to see any gains....So personally i would go with the real stuff...As far as 4AD i think it's a waste(never knew anyone that gained off of it)...Just my opinion...

Remember 1ad and 4ad wont give you the gains as the real stuff, but it sure as hell will give you the sides....

If your decision is based on legal matters...Then just go with MRP's,Protein shakes,creatine and omega fats, and a good diet(which you should have either on or off any cycle)....

Tony

 

[Syphonfilter]

".......I just wanna look cut and solid" How many times have we heard this statement? First off, how long have you been training and what are your stats as asked above? If you don't have a foundation of quality muscle, you can't get the look you're going for. You can't build a house without a foundation or frame. Can 1 AD work, yeah, it can, and it has for many people. However, you do have to take double or triple what they say and that gets way too expensive. If you don't have your eating, training, and resting habits down pat, then you shouldn't even be considering gear usage until you make substantial gains naturally. Your post is vague, you need to give me info on yourself and what exactly it is you're trying to accomplish.

 

[dzuljas]

prohormones are a joke youre trainer is a dumbass

 

[Euriskan]

1ad doesn't aromitize like 4ad, so water gain is non-existent. I have tried it just to see what it was all about and I felt like crap the entire time, fatigue and headaches that would kill my workouts, shot labido. I wouldn't do it again and would recommend it to anyone.

If you are looking for the cut and solid look, you can easily get that with ECA/NYC/Clen along with training and dieting. They will burn fat, are anticatabolic so they'll help maintain lbm and will give you energy for workouts. Save the money, focus on training and dieting and when you are ready just go for the realdeal.

 

[DaddyX]

prohormones are a joke youre trainer is a dumbass

my thoughts exactly

 

[javaguru]

prohormones are a joke youre trainer is a dumbass

I have 6lbs of LBM from a two week injectable 4-ad cycle that says otherwise. That's coming from someone well past their genetic limit who did their first test cycle in 1993.

 

[Shark01]

prohormones are a joke youre trainer is a dumbass

I know dozens of people who would call you the dumbass

1-AD works and is well documented. Since you have never done steroids, you will get a lot out of it. try a 6 week cycle at 300 mg per day.

 

[ffknight84]

I know dozens of people who would call you the dumbass

1-AD works and is well documented. Since you have never done steroids, you will get a lot out of it. try a 6 week cycle at 300 mg per day.

i agree with everything up until 300mg ED...

do 600 unless youre 100 pounds

 

[rumsteel]

I am going a first cycle of 1-ad (4 weeks so far) I have gained 6lbs so far on 600mgs a day. I am a little tired so I am adding 4-ad 3 caps a day for the next 4 weeks. I will let you know how they work . By the way I have also lost at least 1" off my waist!I now weigh 204lbs at 5 9" 32" waist.