1-AD throughts? ? ?

[tony123]

I was very close to making my first purchase of real gear. However with the recent Anthrax concern I suspect mail may be scrutenized heavily - at least for a while. I have seen a bunch of positive posts about 1-AD and was considering trying a 5 week cycle at 9 pills a day. However, before I go forward with the purchase I was hoping to get feedback by people familiar with this product - do you feel it was worth the $$$, how much did you take, and what kinds of gains did you make?

I have been working out for about 12 years, 200 lbs, 34 years old, 350# bench press, low body fat. I have not made any good gains lately - it seems I am stuck on a platau. I would like to take something that would help me put on some muscle and strength. Like I said I was leaning toward gear, but due to all the current events I am a bit gun shy about placing an order.

Thanks for any input!

Tony

 

[Zyglamail]

The real deal offers less sides at a cheaper cost and you get better gains.

 

[Zyglamail]

I agree %100, but if you can't get a source or are scared about the legality of gear then 1-AD isn't a bad choice IMO.

As I said they offer the same if not worse sodes. 1-AD can shut you down, cause hair loss, high BP and the works. Proper recover from prohormones if taken in doses that actually work require many of the same during cycle protectants as well as post cycle recovery products, most of which can be gotten from the same people who sell gear, so in the end if you want to be safe, you will have your sources.

 

[Slyder190]

side effects

Side effects from such products include possiblr gyno. Another side effect is that you will start to piss money, as in the money you'll be wasting using such products. Outside creatinr and glutamine peptides, (and nothing special with those) supplements are a waste, excluding ones designed to add extra calories or protein.

 

[Zyglamail]

I think that's your opinion and you are entitled to it. I've tried the cycle of 1-AD and it did work for me. I've finally been able to break over a 200lb bench and gain 10lbs. 2 things I have been unable to do for 6 months.

You obviously did not read the above posts, no one said they did not work, we stated they do NOT work as well as the real thing. In addition we also stated that the danger associated with real AAS also accompany prohormone use which means that the proper precautions should be taken, which often times involves the use of product requiring a script. And since legality is one of the reasons behind using it, cycling it safely is really not much more of a legal risk than doing the real thing.

In the end, 1-AD is a prohormone and its discussion belongs on the suppliment board if you ask me.

 

[tony123]

1-AD is touted as being very anabolic, so I don't see why it would not be appropriate to foster a discussion of it on this board.

Does anyone else have experience with this supplement that they could elaborate on?

Thanks,

Tony

 

[jstrong20]

It made me slightly leaner and harder @6 ed. gyno is not a concern with 1 -diol. I think it was a waste of money considering the cost. you need real gear for real gains.

 

[saint808]

I saw pretty good results actually and i am gonna finish the bottle and a half that i have left since i already bought it... it will not give you any results even close to gear though... that's common sense... again if someone makes something incredibly powerful it usually gets pulled off the market very quickly by the fda.


Rich

 

[tony123]

bump

 

[SexyJeffy]

Ok guys I have taken 1-AD also. My buddy is a manager at golds so I get it at there costs. I will say that the shit really does work. I took 9 a day for 2 month and gained about 13 pds of muscle cut some fat and got strong as hell. I was doing 325# for 6 to finish off my set. I have been off it for 5 wks now. I have lost weight put on fat and lost strength. Yes the shit does work but it shuts you down so BAD I wasn't even motivated to workout after coming off it. I have been eating eca's like they were candy just to get me motivated to workout. So guys the shit does work but the next time I WILL NOT WASTE my money hell OX is expensive but I know I will keep the gains. Hell you might wanna buy clomid post 1-AD just so you do not loss everything you have gained. I was also taking cyclo nordiol by ergopharm. I have started taking cyclo nordiol again to see if it even makes me wanna work out. Hell who knows they might be right saying that shits worth then the REAL DEAL. Well good luck guys.

Peace

 

[Zyglamail]

Ok guys I have taken 1-AD also. My buddy is a manager at golds so I get it at there costs. I will say that the shit really does work. I took 9 a day for 2 month and gained about 13 pds of muscle cut some fat and got strong as hell.

I dont think anyone is argueing it does not work, just not as well. 2.5 weeks into mu current cycle and I am up 10lbs, I expect about 30 by the time its done as well as fat loss. The point boing a person could do 8 weeks of fina and get get 3x the results for less money.

 

[lawnsaver]

1-AD does work and it doesnt convert to estrogen in any amount.

Ergo product is good, but VPX nutrition's liposomal 1-Test is far better. My friend has been on for 4 weeks an 1.5 times the recomended dose and is up 15Lbs. I couldnt believe it.

VPX nutrition has by far the best supplements out there.

 

[pa1ad]

1-AD is touted as being very anabolic, so I don't see why it would not be appropriate to foster a discussion of it on this board.

Does anyone else have experience with this supplement that they could elaborate on?

Thanks,

Tony

Hey, why not make a 1-AD board!!!

OK, i will go away now.......

 

[pa1ad]

Ok guys I have taken 1-AD also. My buddy is a manager at golds so I get it at there costs. I will say that the shit really does work. I took 9 a day for 2 month and gained about 13 pds of muscle cut some fat and got strong as hell. I was doing 325# for 6 to finish off my set. I have been off it for 5 wks now. I have lost weight put on fat and lost strength. Yes the shit does work but it shuts you down so BAD I wasn't even motivated to workout after coming off it. I have been eating eca's like they were candy just to get me motivated to workout. So guys the shit does work but the next time I WILL NOT WASTE my money hell OX is expensive but I know I will keep the gains. Hell you might wanna buy clomid post 1-AD just so you do not loss everything you have gained. I was also taking cyclo nordiol by ergopharm. I have started taking cyclo nordiol again to see if it even makes me wanna work out. Hell who knows they might be right saying that shits worth then the REAL DEAL. Well good luck guys.

Peace

Nordiol will probably shut you down even worse than 1-AD. If you were not taking the nordiol with the 1-AD your crash may not have been nearly so bad

 

[pa1ad]

I dont think anyone is argueing it does not work, just not as well. 2.5 weeks into mu current cycle and I am up 10lbs, I expect about 30 by the time its done as well as fat loss. The point boing a person could do 8 weeks of fina and get get 3x the results for less money.

OK, so you think a fina cycle will put 90 pounds on you?

My first cycle I ever did was dianabol, and i gained 12 pounds and thought it was unbelievable. You gain 10 pounds and think its not that big of a deal, and expect to gain 30?

Really guys, steroids work but they don't work THAT well

 

[Lumberg]

I am on my second organized cycle of PHs (I have used them irresponsibly in the past but this is my second time since I got on here and learned the right way to do it).

This time it's transdermal.

There is no doubt that the shit works, and works well.

The #1 downfall of PHs, IMO, is that blood levels fulctuate so much.

The stuff is in and out of your system so quickly (less so in the case of transdermals but still true, especially if you only apply 2x/day, that your body is going on and coming off several times a day.

You CAN get real-steroid-like results if you religiously dose yourself every few hours at very high doses (for example 1-ad @ 300mg 4x/day would give AWESOME results I'm sure).

You also can not measure gross weight gain as a measure of effectivity.

When you compare drugs that aromatize to drugs that don't, you are comparing apples to oranges. TO say you gained 12# off d-bols and saying that's a better result than gaining 6# off of 1-AD is absurd. Everyone knows that much of the weight gain from d-bol is from water bloat.

 

[dork]

I think pro-hormones is a mental thing.... People think to themselves that if it can be purcahses at GNC it's safe, and alot better then illegal steroids...

I got gyno from PH, and not from illegal juice.

The ONLY and i mean ONLY advantage these 'over the counter PH's' offer, are legal means of purchasing them.

The real deal is cheaper, safer (if educated), and produce better results (MUCH MUCH BETTER).

IF you are too scared to inject, go with orals. If you are too scared to buy orals, then maybe stuff that messes with your hormones (and gets you big!) is not your bag BABY

 

[ManOfArms]

1-AD is touted as being very anabolic, so I don't see why it would not be appropriate to foster a discussion of it on this board.

Does anyone else have experience with this supplement that they could elaborate on?

Thanks,

Tony

Yes, I have personal experience with it. IMO, it really sucked. Also, I happen to know that it can cause gyno, despite what the label says......

 

[muscle_geek]

Fina is legal to purchase and so is Synovex. Unless you purchase large amounts I doubt highly that the mail would be scrutinized. IF you want real results do a fina/test cycle. With your age/experience that would be the way to go in my opinion.

 

[bunkka]

Bottom line: If you can get the real deal (Enanthate, etc), DO IT?

WHY WOULDN'T YOU?

There is no REAL reason to use a prohormone, even the best 1-AD, if you are in the position to get "the real".

I was taking 1-AD for a short while before I started my recent TestE-Only cycle and, honestly, I feel it helped, had value. But, nothing like the real stuff and with less sides... and CHEAPER!!!!!!!!

Again... WHY?

 

[bunkka]

Why do juicers insist on completely ignoring the fact that some people just want to be able to call themselves natural or steroid-free, whatever.

DT.. don't know if this was a direct reply to my reply. I appreciate yours posts and input (just helped me out w/ something in a previous post).

I'm just stating my opinions on it purely based on a cost/benefit... pros/cons... model.

I asked several times "Why would you?". If the reason is that you want to stay clear of illegal substances, then there is a valid answer... as is the whole "Natural" thing.

This gets into the whole philisophyical debates thing - my opinion being that God gave us wisdom as well as intelligence; the ability to take data, knowledge and apply it how we see fit, within our OWN moral codes, etc.... This is the beginnings of what should be a whole new thread.

 

[chakarov]

1-AD is garbage. Gains are from the placebo effect. When I see a 17-AA Pro Hormone, then I 'may' think differently.

Pro Hormones. When are the dreamers ever going to learn!

Syntrax's T-3. It worked, was real and was banned in just months. If Pro Hormones REALLY worked anything even close to real oral AS, then the FDA would ban them to just like they did Syntrax's original T3...

Use your common sense folks. Do you really think that the FDA hasn't already tested EVERY SINGLE Pro Hormone out there to see if's it's really like AS or even remotely close? If The FDA found out a Pro Hormone was close to an AS then it would be banned in a matter of a few weeks.

 

[LethalGunz34]

I saw pretty good results actually and i am gonna finish the bottle and a half that i have left since i already bought it... it will not give you any results even close to gear though... that's common sense... again if someone makes something incredibly powerful it usually gets pulled off the market very quickly by the fda.


Rich

I guess Avantlabs is a perfect example of that(ONE,ONE+).

 

[MrMakaveli]

1-AD is garbage. Gains are from the placebo effect. When I see a 17-AA Pro Hormone, then I 'may' think differently.

Pro Hormones. When are the dreamers ever going to learn!

Syntrax's T-3. It worked, was real and was banned in just months. If Pro Hormones REALLY worked anything even close to real oral AS, then the FDA would ban them to just like they did Syntrax's original T3...

Use your common sense folks. Do you really think that the FDA hasn't already tested EVERY SINGLE Pro Hormone out there to see if's it's really like AS or even remotely close? If The FDA found out a Pro Hormone was close to an AS then it would be banned in a matter of a few weeks.

There is a bill before congress set to do just that.

 

[chakarov]

Pro Hormones give you many of the negative sides of real AS, but without any positive benefits whatsoever. That's another point I forgot to make, but I thought everyone else knew these things

 

[MrMakaveli]

http://www.delano.com/Articles/1-Testosterone.html

Real Steroid, Real benifits, Real sides

All these people saying "half the benifits of real gear" 1-testosterone is A REAL STEROID, it is not a test prohormone but rather a hormone itself....

I dont support prohormones necessarily but people need to get their facts straight...

 

[Lumberg]

1-AD is garbage. Gains are from the placebo effect.

It stinks in here......must be because you're FULL OF SHIT!!!!!!



1-AD does work. Do a search next time before you say something that is going to make you look stupid.

 

[NapoleanComplex]

Gains from 1-AD are acceptable, but not for the price. I priced out a cycle for 7 wks (taper up...900mg/day...taper down) and combined 6 OXO for recovery....came out to $260. With this cycle, I was able to gain 15lbs, keeping 12lbs after recovery. Strict diet, and good training. Strength fades slightly after cycle, but most of the lean mass is retianed. Never really experienced any sides other than burning piss in the morning, if I was dehydrated. However, my friend who ran the same cycle w/out running the 6-OXO at the end of the cycle, actually saw signs of gyno post cycle. Not bad signs, but there was definitely a little bit of puffiness under the nipples.

Just thought I would share...by they way, the only time I will ever use 1AD is for cutting (lower dosage...may 500-600 mg/day)...to spare muscle tissue as I go low cal. I would rather use Clen, but I didn't respond well to it the first and second time I tried it.

Just my experience...

 

[Watson]

OK, so you think a fina cycle will put 90 pounds on you?

My first cycle I ever did was dianabol, and i gained 12 pounds and thought it was unbelievable. You gain 10 pounds and think its not that big of a deal, and expect to gain 30?

Really guys, steroids work but they don't work THAT well

Some people just don't read before they post.

 

[liftsiron]

I agree that 1-AD will help with strength at 300 plus mgs a day, but I wholeheartly agre with what Zyg says, you get a whole hell of alot more from plain old test at a fraction of the cost. Hell you can take d-bol much cheaper and I can tell you 45mgs of d-bol will give you 3 to 4 times the results of 900mgs of 1-AD.

 

[ProteinFiend]

and give you tits 3 or 4 times the size....

I agree that 1-AD will help with strength at 300 plus mgs a day, but I wholeheartly agre with what Zyg says, you get a whole hell of alot more from plain old test at a fraction of the cost. Hell you can take d-bol much cheaper and I can tell you 45mgs of d-bol will give you 3 to 4 times the results of 900mgs of 1-AD.

 

[Quiller]

OK.... I have taken 1AD trying to stay on the safe side. You guys say that it is just as dangerous as the real thing. So why not? I'll take the chance.. I want gains. What would the proper AS be, still staying safe and getting better gains than 1AD?
Is Dbol safe? What is Fina, is that Finaplix? Fina shows 10's on gains but 9's on side effects..
Name a few safe ones.. I know they all have tendencies for sides but what would be safer than others?

Quiller

p.s. I know no one will give sources, but tell me where to look... I tried IP and it sucked, won't do that again