1-ad not doing the job????

[ThePizmo]

Ive posted 8000 threads about 1-ad. I love the shit...ALWAYS have gotten great results from it...

Something is wrong though. I started another cycle about 4 weeks ago. The effect arent as strong as they have always been. the LEAST ive ever gotten from a cycle was up 8 lbs and bench up 15.

This time is different. Im STILL at 195lbs and my bench hasnt gone up much. 10lbs, maybe (i think my spotter was helping me out a lil too much...).

This time around, im working out harder, eating better, etc...and im not getting the results...not even close!!!

Whats going on???

 

[javaguru]

My first cycle of steroids consisted of 240mg per week and I gained 12 pounds in two weeks. I would need a gram of drugs to see six to eight pounds in two weeks now. As you approach and exceed your genetic potential more drugs are needed to see the same effects.

 

[bigswole30]

I agree. Try upping the dosage.

 

[jg968]

What are your dosages? Are you stacking with something else?

 

[ThePizmo]

well i take 3 a day on days i DONT lift....
I take 4 per day on days i DO lift...(2 before, 2 after)

Taking 3 bottles, on second now, im only stakcing the LAST bottle with andro...

 

[gsxr1000]

well i take 3 a day on days i DONT lift....
I take 4 per day on days i DO lift...(2 before, 2 after)

Taking 3 bottles, on second now, im only stakcing the LAST bottle with andro...

Yeah I think you need to up the dosage a bit. Also, keep the dosage consistent on training and non-training days. You want to keep the levels in your blood as consistent as possible, not fluctuating from one day to the next.

When I did a 4 week cycle I dosed like this

Week 1 - 4 pills a day
Week 2 - 5 pills a day
Week 3 - 6 pills a day
Week 4 - 6 pills for 1st 3 days, 7 pills next 4 days

You need to go a little higher than the bottle's recommendations to see good results, especially if you've already done a couple cycles of it.

 

[Chins]

1-ad

I would take 600 mg a day for 1-ad at min.

I did that and had nice gains

Chins

 

[gdawg29]

My current 1AD/4AD stack (including creatine at 10 grams on workout days and 5 on off days) has produced startling results thus far as I am in the middle of Week 3. I am a firm believer in this product, but reading about the water retention and puffiness that comes with the 4AD I wonder if I would be better off with just the 1AD starting next week. I haven't had any sides at all yet (knock on wood! No pun intended there either!) and am not worried about the bitch tits.

And is 6oxo a must once my stack is complete? Lastly, I've read on the board that Biotest Methoxy7 or whatever that is is garbage. Yet I also read it can be an effective "bridge" between PH cycles. Any thoughts on that possibility?

Thanks.

 

[gdawg29]

Bump to my last post. Anyone have any help for me?

 

[Lumberg]

take at least 600 mgs a day bro. 200 mgs per dose. do one of them mimmediately after working out along with your shake. you'll see gains.

 

[u4ik_RAGE]

My current 1AD/4AD stack (including creatine at 10 grams on workout days and 5 on off days) has produced startling results thus far as I am in the middle of Week 3. I am a firm believer in this product, but reading about the water retention and puffiness that comes with the 4AD I wonder if I would be better off with just the 1AD starting next week. I haven't had any sides at all yet (knock on wood! No pun intended there either!) and am not worried about the bitch tits.

And is 6oxo a must once my stack is complete? Lastly, I've read on the board that Biotest Methoxy7 or whatever that is is garbage. Yet I also read it can be an effective "bridge" between PH cycles. Any thoughts on that possibility?

Thanks.

You will probably get pretty tired if you take out the 4-AD. If you are going for size, keep the 4-AD for the benefits of moderate estrogen levels, especially on your joints.
You don't HAVE to take 6-oxo, but you have to take something, whether it's clomid, nolva, etc. If 6-oxo is your only option, it's a pretty great option.

 

[u4ik_RAGE]

Lastly, I've read on the board that Biotest Methoxy7 or whatever that is is garbage. Yet I also read it can be an effective "bridge" between PH cycles. Any thoughts on that possibility?

The cost to benefit ratio is $10 a bottle. Biotest sells it for much more.

 

[gdawg29]

u4ik Rage - Thanks for the answers but already have the Methoxy7 that I have been sitting on for a while AND it is not expired.

Given that point in mind will it work instead of the 6oxo?
Thanks again for the input.

 

[gsxr1000]

u4ik Rage - Thanks for the answers but already have the Methoxy7 that I have been sitting on for a while AND it is not expired.

Given that point in mind will it work instead of the 6oxo?
Thanks again for the input.

6-OXO and Methoxyisoflavone are 2 completely different compound that do 2 different things.

The point of the 6-OXO is to suppress estrogen and help your natural test production kick back into gear after being supressed by a prohormone cycle.

Methoxy products do not make any claims to being able to do this.