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1-AD / 1-Test
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Many have had tremendous sucess with both of these substances. Either product can be cycled alone for a period of 2-8weeks. If aromatization is appealing (1-test/1-AD do not aromatize), 4-AD may be added. Those susceptible to androgenic side effects (specifically male pattern baldness) should be sure to closely monitor their body's reaction to these substances, however.
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gsxr1000
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I may be going overboard slightly with my plans for my upcoming 1-AD/4-AD cycle but this is what I plan to do just as an FYI to anyone who needs some guidance.
Taking Ergo 1-AD and Avant 4-A-Derm for 5 week cycle.
Weeks 1-5: 1-AD
1 - 300 mg/ED
2 - 400 mg/ED
3 - 500 mg/ED
4 - 600 mg/ED
5 - 600-700 mg/ED
10 or so squirts ED of 4-A-Derm to keep libido in check.
In addition, going to take Saw Palmetto (hopefully to combat DHT)
Also going to take r-ALA, selenium and silymarin (milk thistle) for liver support
(r-ALA is for glucose transport too, to prevent those 2 N-Large shakes a day from making me get fat).
Other than that, just creatine post workout and alot of protein all day. Oh, and 6oxo and tribestan post-cycle to get the twig and berries working again.
Hope that helps.
Taking Ergo 1-AD and Avant 4-A-Derm for 5 week cycle.
Weeks 1-5: 1-AD
1 - 300 mg/ED
2 - 400 mg/ED
3 - 500 mg/ED
4 - 600 mg/ED
5 - 600-700 mg/ED
10 or so squirts ED of 4-A-Derm to keep libido in check.
In addition, going to take Saw Palmetto (hopefully to combat DHT)
Also going to take r-ALA, selenium and silymarin (milk thistle) for liver support
(r-ALA is for glucose transport too, to prevent those 2 N-Large shakes a day from making me get fat).
Other than that, just creatine post workout and alot of protein all day. Oh, and 6oxo and tribestan post-cycle to get the twig and berries working again.
Hope that helps.
elijah_123
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Why pyramid?
I'm far from a expert but why the pyramid?
I've read quite a few guys that want to start of big and move down. With the relative weakness of PH why start out so low? Seems like it would lead to more suppression with fewer gains than going heavy then tapering down.
I'm far from a expert but why the pyramid?
I've read quite a few guys that want to start of big and move down. With the relative weakness of PH why start out so low? Seems like it would lead to more suppression with fewer gains than going heavy then tapering down.
Some taper up as they believe it to lessen the "shock" of using an androgen, though such is NOT necessary.
Also, tapering downward at the end of cycle is likewise unecessary. Contrary to popular misconception, down-tapering does not increase the speed with which natural test levels will return to baseline post-cycle.
The introduction of androgens places the body in a supraphysiological state, the deprivation of which will not elicit a compensatory response from the testes to re-iniate production.
Tapering doses will not aid in reversing HPTA suppression brought on during a cycle. If one has been on moderate-to-high doses of AAS and tapers, the presence of any exogenous androgen will continue to inhibit the restoration of natural tesosterone production (I am not here talking about "bridging" steroids or formestane).
Also, tapering downward at the end of cycle is likewise unecessary. Contrary to popular misconception, down-tapering does not increase the speed with which natural test levels will return to baseline post-cycle.
The introduction of androgens places the body in a supraphysiological state, the deprivation of which will not elicit a compensatory response from the testes to re-iniate production.
Tapering doses will not aid in reversing HPTA suppression brought on during a cycle. If one has been on moderate-to-high doses of AAS and tapers, the presence of any exogenous androgen will continue to inhibit the restoration of natural tesosterone production (I am not here talking about "bridging" steroids or formestane).
