Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Has anyone had experience with 1,4 Andro? I haven't found a great deal of real life info on this, just some theories by Big Cat....
1,4 Andro
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I just completed a cycle of Boldione. I am a week into my clomid therapy and am still undecided on the results. My weight went from a starting point of 223lbs to a high of 238 lbs. My strenght was way up and I did feel like I was "on". I experienced no side effects. I would say that the extra kick it gave my training was well worth the price even if I end up losing 5-10 lbs. I'm over 30, so adding 5lbs of muscle would be great. I will be better able to evaluate when I have finished clomid and see where my weight settles.
A little background: I have done two AS cycles in the past. The last cycle was about 18 months ago. I used Boldione for 6 weeks at 400mg per day. I looked at this as an experiment which is why I did not use the suggested 600mg per day or stack with another prohormone.
A little background: I have done two AS cycles in the past. The last cycle was about 18 months ago. I used Boldione for 6 weeks at 400mg per day. I looked at this as an experiment which is why I did not use the suggested 600mg per day or stack with another prohormone.
Strength through the roof? Interesting... Every combine Halo+Tren+Winny? I know (without trying) 1,4 wouldn't match that of course but I'd love to find a PH that actually increases strength noticeably for a change.
I was judging my strength against over the counter suplements, not AS. As an example, I was able to bench press 335 at the end of a 5X5 set. Previously I was stuck at 305 and fighting to get the 4th and 5th rep.
I weighed myself after my workout last night and I was down to 235lbs. That is a 3lb loss. I'll keep you posted on where I level out and how much of the strenght gain I am able to keep.
I weighed myself after my workout last night and I was down to 235lbs. That is a 3lb loss. I'll keep you posted on where I level out and how much of the strenght gain I am able to keep.
I thought I would give a quick update. My weight is still at 235 and I have noticed no notable loss in strength. I suspect I will lose a few more pounds but I have not experienced a crash in strength or mass.
The only change I made in my diet during the 6 weeks I took Boldeone was an extra 40-50 grams of protein each day (which probably added 240 calories). Since I was not sure it would work at all, I was concerned with taking in too many calories and just putting on a few pounds of fat. I never retained water or bloated up in any way. It seems to me that 1,4 andro would be ideal for cutting/dieting. Has anyone used it while dieting? What about other prohormones for cutting? I have seen tons of posts on bulking and bulking results, but never on cutting.
The only change I made in my diet during the 6 weeks I took Boldeone was an extra 40-50 grams of protein each day (which probably added 240 calories). Since I was not sure it would work at all, I was concerned with taking in too many calories and just putting on a few pounds of fat. I never retained water or bloated up in any way. It seems to me that 1,4 andro would be ideal for cutting/dieting. Has anyone used it while dieting? What about other prohormones for cutting? I have seen tons of posts on bulking and bulking results, but never on cutting.
Rock420 said:
I would have to agree - 5AA is actually pretty impressive especially considering that I'm normally a HALO kind of guy. 5AA, while useless in comparison to Halo as far as strength gains is great for hardness and very very similar as far as physiological changes. I have no experience with Boldione but with 5AA I see no need when cutting. Still though, I enjoy Halo best - HALO IS YOUR FRIEND!
tmmarkdc2 said:
Bad things I've noticed on 5AA:
- decreased energy (most likely due to estrogen inhibition)
- Pissing becomes harder (just like with my good friend Mr. Halo - "HALO IS YOUR FRIEND!"
tm - Voices tell me to harm others............Oh.......... On second thought that normally happens anyway.
- No additional hair loss but as always I laquer my scalp with minoxidal.
