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snagglepuss said:
anyone tried it? how long did you use it? what did you cycle it with? what results?

karma for all helpful replies

I ran it , so did SYL from mms and a few other folks that I know. Good stuff and good price for receptor grade IGF.

I ran mine for 3 months, then for 6 months, then took some time off, running again soon. Had a lot of fat-loss, and not much water retention as you see with GH, IGF-1 is a product in it's own realm. Just don't expect to be ronnie coleman from using it and you'll be good.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:
I ran it , so did SYL from mms and a few other folks that I know. Good stuff and good price for receptor grade IGF.

I ran mine for 3 months, then for 6 months, then took some time off, running again soon. Had a lot of fat-loss, and not much water retention as you see with GH, IGF-1 is a product in it's own realm. Just don't expect to be ronnie coleman from using it and you'll be good.

Mr.X

Thanks for the excellent help! Did you run it alone or did you stack it with anything or take it with PCT? Also, did you have any sides with running it that long? I read somewher that more than 6 weeks wasn't worth the additional sides, but I'm not sure about that... I am thinking of taking it alone for 6 weeks and then doing a 12 with a cycle of test/tren, and maybe keeping the IGF in there, too. thanks again.
 
snagglepuss said:
Thanks for the excellent help! Did you run it alone or did you stack it with anything or take it with PCT? Also, did you have any sides with running it that long? I read somewher that more than 6 weeks wasn't worth the additional sides, but I'm not sure about that... I am thinking of taking it alone for 6 weeks and then doing a 12 with a cycle of test/tren, and maybe keeping the IGF in there, too. thanks again.

To be honest with you, I prefer it PCT, and during my cycles I switch 6 weeks IGF and 6 weeks of GH. PCT it works like MAGIC!

It's just like GH in terms of time, some say run it short, some say long, I would suggest a 6-8 week cycle max.

I would run the IGF-1 as a bridge or PCT, then cycle in into your main cycle.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:
To be honest with you, I prefer it PCT, and during my cycles I switch 6 weeks IGF and 6 weeks of GH. PCT it works like MAGIC!

It's just like GH in terms of time, some say run it short, some say long, I would suggest a 6-8 week cycle max.

I would run the IGF-1 as a bridge or PCT, then cycle in into your main cycle.

Mr.X


awesome! that's just what I wanted to hear :) I am going to work on tweaking my cycle and then I'll post the whole thing -- hope you'll give me your critique then!

cheers
 
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Mr.X said:
It's just like GH in terms of time, some say run it short, some say long, I would suggest a 6-8 week cycle max.
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oh, one other thing... I never heard of running GH for only 6-8 weeks. would you still recommend a dosage of 4iu/ED for that period? thanks again.
 
snagglepuss said:
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oh, one other thing... I never heard of running GH for only 6-8 weeks. would you still recommend a dosage of 4iu/ED for that period? thanks again.

I didn't mean running GH for that long, I said that IGF-1 was like GH, everyone has different views on the product :) personally I say 6-8 weeks is plenty on IGF-1 since you can cycle it on and off.

For GH, 4IUs/day, you'd need to run at least 20 week.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:
I didn't mean running GH for that long, I said that IGF-1 was like GH, everyone has different views on the product :) personally I say 6-8 weeks is plenty on IGF-1 since you can cycle it on and off.

For GH, 4IUs/day, you'd need to run at least 20 week.

Mr.X

gotcha. thanks for the clarification.
 
I have been doing some research on IGF-1. Did you find that the gains started tapering off fast after 4 weeks?
I have been reading the best results are a month on followed by a month off.
I would be interested in hearing your opinion.
Also, is AG's stuff oral or subQ/IM?
Is it Long R-3?
 
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slat1 said:
Did you guys use and oral version or subQ/IM version?

there is NO SUCH THING AS AN ORAL VERSION! how many times do I have to say that, that's a SCAM!
 
c3web said:
So what is a starting dosage of IGF-1? Anyone ever stack it with HGH?

Receptor grade IGF should be around 40mcg/ED.

I have stacked it with GH, but really, in the long term, running them seperately would be more cost effective.

Mr.X
 
Mr.X said:
Receptor grade IGF should be around 40mcg/ED.

I have stacked it with GH, but really, in the long term, running them seperately would be more cost effective.

Mr.X


If you run them separately, how long should you stay on the GH and at what dose?
 
I have stacked it with GH, but really, in the long term, running them seperately would be more cost effective.
If you weren't worried about the cost... Would you see any benifit of doing GH, IGF-1, and say winstrol... or would GH and IGF-1 together be over kill? How much bacteriostatic water do you dilute the IGF-1 with?
 
snagglepuss said:
If you run them separately, how long should you stay on the GH and at what dose?

GH requires a longer time to bring steady results, I would go for 5-6 months on GH and 6-8 weeks on IGF-1 if that's what you wanted to do. Like anything, use in MODERATION :) you'll always have time to get bigger, but your health is another thing.

Mr.X
 
c3web said:
If you weren't worried about the cost... Would you see any benifit of doing GH, IGF-1, and say winstrol... or would GH and IGF-1 together be over kill? How much bacteriostatic water do you dilute the IGF-1 with?

it would be overkill, GH already increases levels of IGF-1 so adding IGF-1 would just be overkill
 
from what ive read gh only raises igf1 by about 2-5mcg per 2-4 iu inj. so there is a big difference in inj 40mcg igf1 and what you get from gh. i found that i got much better results from using both together. stayed on gh at 2iu per day and cycled the igf1 2-4 wks on 2-3 wks off. cant stand how tired the igf1 makes me feel so i stopped using it. i do know that the first time i used igf1 i had amazing results and after that the results were ok. if the results were always the same as the first cycle, i could put up with the constant tired feeling.
 
searay said:
from what ive read gh only raises igf1 by about 2-5mcg per 2-4 iu inj. so there is a big difference in inj 40mcg igf1 and what you get from gh. i found that i got much better results from using both together. stayed on gh at 2iu per day and cycled the igf1 2-4 wks on 2-3 wks off. cant stand how tired the igf1 makes me feel so i stopped using it. i do know that the first time i used igf1 i had amazing results and after that the results were ok. if the results were always the same as the first cycle, i could put up with the constant tired feeling.

A lot of people do use both together, but a LOT of the times it's not cost effective and doesn't bring results % wise for the price.

Only advanced BB should run GH+IGF-1.
 
my cousin tried it and he didn't have too much results, he used it for 8 weeks. He got it from a guy with a good reputation so i dunno if his body wasn't "optimized" for IGF-1 use or if it was crap gear

good luck tough! make sure to do a good report, i'm interested in IGF-1 even tough my cousin didn't get too much out of it (except for painful pumps, but i already got test and tren for that :evil:)
 
2sick said:
How many 1000mcg vials are in a AG guys kit?

bro, it's 1mg (1000mcg) 1 vial. I think you guys are all comparing the jin IGF-1 kits, this is just the straight IGF-1.

Mr.X
 
2sick said:
Damn that is expensive for 1mg...

it's RECEPTOR grade (not shitty media grade) that goes for $770/mg for good quality stuff, so their price is good
 
if you use 2ml of BAC it comes out to being 5mcg per IU..This is based of off the amount you get from AG-Guys(1000mcg)

I am running it right now with Deca and prob. My waist is now down one inch and im up 23lbs! Amazing strenght too. I am only doing 30mcg ED
 
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