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I think ultra-libertarians want to turn the USA into a third world shit hole. No public education, health care, social security = a place you really don't want to live, even if you have money. Why do you think all the people who can afford it get out of those places?





b0und (I prefer living in a 1st world country, thanks)

Emerging from WWI the U.S. didn't have 2/3 of those and was the rising world power. The Soviet Union along with the Eastern Block had 3/3 and we all know how that turned out. :)
 
Emerging from WWI the U.S. didn't have 2/3 of those and was the rising world power. The Soviet Union along with the Eastern Block had 3/3 and we all know how that turned out. :)

There was an "Eastern Block" emerging from WWI????????
 
There was an "Eastern Block" emerging from WWI????????

Two separate and distinct sentences indicating two different ideas. My point is that government provided services don't dictate the quality of life for the population. However, if you want to bring up the failed socialist policies emerging out of WWI I'm more than happy to engage. The Soviet union and Stalin with their socialist ideology...the socialist Nazis...as well as the communist movements gaining popularity in most countries....the eugenics movement in the U.S. that inspired Hitler and German eugenics laws.
 
My point is that government provided services don't dictate the quality of life for the population.

Why don't you ask some of the recipients of these services, in countries that provide them, if their quality of life is enhanced by them?
 
Yeah but at this point we're only haggling numbers.

What is a fair portion for you to give to me? We don't have to be equal, but what's reasonable? 35%? 40%?

I'm very fair-minded. I'd think we can meet in the middle somewhere on this issue.

You seem to be under some bizarre mistaken impression that any support for gov't social services represents a desire to equalize outcome.
 
Why don't you ask some of the recipients of these services, in countries that provide them, if their quality of life is enhanced by them?

People getting "free money" from the government will always be positive...be they people on social security or wealthy bank executives. The money isn't free and entitlements are always popular with the unwashed masses. If they pay for it then it's fine...the average medicare patient pays a dollar for $2=3$ dollars in services that are Ponzied out to the next generation. Yes, Social Security and Medicare are giant ponzi schemes.....
 
Why don't you ask some of the recipients of these services, in countries that provide them, if their quality of life is enhanced by them?

My quality of life would be improved by you giving me 35% of your karma. I'd sure like it. I'd like 40% even more.
 
You seem to be under some bizarre mistaken impression that any support for gov't social services represents a desire to equalize outcome.

Not at all. Equality of outcome would be us having to settle-up and have the exact karma every day forever.

What I'm talking about is equal opportunity. You have 7x my karma. You've reached a point by which I can never reasonably expect to catch up. Giving me only 35% to 40% of your karma would place us on a more equal footing and allow me to more effectively participate in this board. You are part of a larger board community and need to pay your fair share. An Internet message board with a single member is useless anyway, so the overall health and well-being of this site serves your interest as well.

It's time to see your belief system in action. When will I be getting my 35%-40% of your karma?
 
Not at all. Equality of outcome would be us having to settle-up and have the exact karma every day forever.

What I'm talking about is equal opportunity. You have 7x my karma. You've reached a point by which I can never reasonably expect to catch up. Giving me only 35% to 40% of your karma would place us on a more equal footing and allow me to more effectively participate in this board. You are part of a larger board community and need to pay your fair share. An Internet message board with a single member is useless anyway, so the overall health and well-being of this site serves your interest as well.

It's time to see your belief system in action. When will I be getting my 35%-40% of your karma?
Oh sweetness! Who wants land in Africa? I've already got 11 acres in Bumfuck, South Carolina. Just pass along some of that Caucasian K to yours truly. I will be in a back alley shooting up e-crack rocks and pounding Colt 45s by Thursday.
 
Oh sweetness! Who wants land in Africa? I've already got 11 acres in Bumfuck, South Carolina. Just pass along some of that Caucasian K to yours truly. I will be in a back alley shooting up e-crack rocks and pounding Colt 45s by Thursday.

I need some of your karma too. Are you doing the 35% or 40% plan?

I'm tired of being opressed by you and Mr. dB. You'd think you guys would be appreciative of me offering the Bush tax cut rate of 35%. I'd like a "thank you" along with that karma transfer.
 
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