Why do you guys say you should have experience with other gear before tren?

[joe d]

i dont recommend tren for first time cyclers online because it always starts arguemnets and flaming...but to the juicers in the real world i know plenty that run tren as first cycles and everything is fine... i still never understood the whole side effects scare...ya get some acne ya lose some hair...big deal...ill take a back full of acnce and some shedding for a few months for 15 pounds of muscle

imo if thats all that is going to happen than its not a big deal. but some like myself are not as tollerant to other sides like agresson for example. tren can be a mofo in this area. test can be a little rough to. it was for me. but its one of those things you just get used to and dont have the problem after a cycle ot 2. but i couldnt imagine if tren was part of my first run with sweating, insomnia, and major agresson i probably would have given up on the gear.

also there is a logical pct aspect. tren is hard to recover from compared to other compounds. some people have a harder time recovering than others. it would be wise to keep your first run mild to see how pct will go for the first time.

but after 1 run id say its all fair game.

 

[PEAKIN]

imo if thats all that is going to happen than its not a big deal. but some like myself are not as tollerant to other sides like agresson for example. tren can be a mofo in this area. test can be a little rough to. it was for me. but its one of those things you just get used to and dont have the problem after a cycle ot 2. but i couldnt imagine if tren was part of my first run with sweating, insomnia, and major agresson i probably would have given up on the gear.

also there is a logical pct aspect. tren is hard to recover from compared to other compounds. some people have a harder time recovering than others. it would be wise to keep your first run mild to see how pct will go for the first time.

but after 1 run id say its all fair game.

So would you say running 200mg Tren E with 500mg Test E per week a good way to check your tolerance to it?
I have run 1 sustanon cycle @ 500mg per week before.

I know people say to run Tren A but I really don't want to jab that often.

 

[dabuffguy]

So would you say running 200mg Tren E with 500mg Test E per week a good way to check your tolerance to it?
I have run 1 sustanon cycle @ 500mg per week before.

I know people say to run Tren A but I really don't want to jab that often.

Run tren A the first time bro. If you get fucked up sides fom it, the tren E will be in your system for about two weeks, vs a 4 day max with ace.

 

[ConanX]

My sides from Tren Ace 100mg ED were no worse than when I was using EQ at 400mg EW.

Same slight increase in acne. Less hair shedding than Winny. No real notice in aggression or mental state. I did get bad insomnia but I was still strong in the gym.

I was at my strongest, biggest, leanest, and best when on Tren. My favorite steroid hands-down.

I only say save it for another cycle because you can gain 20-30lbs off a Test cycle in the beginning. Then when your gains are plateuing with gear, you can throw some Tren in for another 15lbs gain. Otherwise, like Hayez says, realistically I do know of 1st timers who ran Tren Ace 100mg EOD with a cc of Test for libido. No probs from what I've seen. Though I still don't recommend it for a first cycle because I think it's unnecessary, just like why have a n00b run a gram of Test when he can get similiar gains with 300mg?

 

[Divinehybridx]

I love tren but it's not something for the faint hearted I'm on it now night sweats and insomnia are bad. Also don't us it if you don't do well with agression

 

[butter-bob]

I've ran numerous cycles of tren. As stated above, start your first cycle with ace just in case you get the sides. Agression tends to fade as you get further into the cycle (in my experience). I also find that limiting my carb intake after mid-day helps to limit my night sweats considerably. Best cycle I have ever ran was Dbol/Tren Ace/Test P/EQ. There have been numerous people complain about panic attacks cycling EQ with tren though (myself included).

 

[crulexis]

Basically TREN needs A LOT of research, and for most first timers, they may be lacking... It's also like Conan said not needed for a first timer, because you can get great results without it as a nub.. If you're gonna do Tren for your first time, make sure you have a friend who's done it before , and can advise / guide you so you don't fuck up.. And make sure you get a good PCT.

My 2 (Canadian) Cents.. lol

 

[abomb1]

hells yeah its hard to recover from....

 

[C.K.]

Most people dont know about diet, recovery & how to handle sides when they do their first cycle... aslong as your knowlegeble in all 3 i think tren is fine for a first timer...