Given how many abortion doctors are killed (not that many)...

[cindylou]

That's one of the issues isn't it?? when did he become GOD ??? when did he become all knowing and empowered to make that determination?? he can educate on what the bible says.. but judge?? As a fundie i'd take um bridge to his manipulation and self appointed high road..

Well Im sure its just a theory of his...but when do you think we get one (a soul) because if its at conception and the soul exists then my sister and I share a soul since we split 12 days after conception.....

 

[mrplunkey]

If someone wants a frontal lobotomy it's their business.

Ahhh... the libertarian view.

So I guess if I want my own cache of rocket propelled grenade launchers it's my business too?

 

[javaguru]

Ahhh... the libertarian view.

So I guess if I want my own cache of rocket propelled grenade launchers it's my business too?

Nice straw man.

 

[javaguru]

Not only that but late term abortions were a tiny part of his practice.

He was not giving late term abortions to women who just decided they didnt want their babies..these babies had their brains coming out of their skulls - missing organs, extreme cases of spina bifida etc etc but the baby has not yet died but would surely die.

Thank you for making an important point.

 

[mrplunkey]

Nice straw man.

In a straw man argument, you setup a false target then knock it down. I did neither.

You've made the comment: "If someone wants a frontal lobotomy it's their business.". Didn't that imply the individual to be the ultimate decision-maker? Why are you dodging a similar argument around my RPG?

 

[mrplunkey]

Not only that but late term abortions were a tiny part of his practice.

He was not giving late term abortions to women who just decided they didnt want their babies..these babies had their brains coming out of their skulls - missing organs, extreme cases of spina bifida etc etc but the baby has not yet died but would surely die.

Women under those circumstances don't have problems getting abortions locally. I'm going to argue that you are against arming our troops properly in Afghanistan and Iraq because you aren't willing to give me a full automatic M-16 and my own rocket-propelled grenade launcher here in the US.

I can't believe people are making these arguments for what Tiller did. He did operate within the law, but what he specialized in was very ugly trade.

 

[javaguru]

In a straw man argument, you setup a false target then knock it down. I did neither.

You've made the comment: "If someone wants a frontal lobotomy it's their business.". Didn't that imply the individual to be the ultimate decision-maker? Why are you dodging a similar argument around my RPG?

You were setting up an argument to knock it down, a generic choice argument.

An RPG is a tool that can be used to physically injure or kill another person, not a medical procedure. A lobotomy only directly impacts the person making the decision about their body. I know you're dying to make the argument a third trimester nonviable fetus is equal to the mother.

 

[PICK3]

I don’t have the intellect or sense of logic to formulate a substantial straw argument.

When I get jammed up in a argument I usually just resort to the standard “fuck off” reply.

just sayin'

 

[mrplunkey]

You were setting up an argument to knock it down, a generic choice argument.

An RPG is a tool that can be used to physically injure or kill another person, not a medical procedure. A lobotomy only directly impacts the person making the decision about their body. I know you're dying to make the argument a third trimester nonviable fetus is equal to the mother.

Yeah, a mother of three young children "choosing" to have a lobotomy would only effect her.

 

[javaguru]

Yeah, a mother of three young children "choosing" to have a lobotomy would only effect her.

It might be a positive. Still, another great straw man attempt. When was the last time a mother of three requested a lobotomy?

We allow parents to pretty much do anything to their children as long as it isn't physically abusive.