EPO, the RBC glycoprotein hormone. Vet knowledge needed-Discuss

[dabuffguy]

EPO, or erythropoietin, is a drug used to treat anemia just as anadrol was.

Exogeneous EPO will increase RBC significantly.

EPO is not an anabolic steroid, but does EPO have any potential for mass building and vascularity?




Anybody ever hear of this being used in the BB world?


Discuss

 

[10001110101]

EPO is not an anabolic steroid, but does EPO have any potential for mass building and vascularity?

Mass? absolutely not. Vascularity, yes.

However, EPO is a pretty dangerous drug, difficult to get a hold of, expensive, the list goes on.

and the vascularity you get from it you could easily get from eq/winstrol.

It's useless to a bodybuilder, however if you're a cyclist/enduro athlete it's a great drug.

 

[lmm23]

For endurance, I've found it really useful. You need access to bloodwork constantly, or you're in danger of getting your RBC count too high. Everyone responds differently to it. Keeping your hematocrit at 55% is sensible.

 

[Mavafanculo]

hey bro-

the drug is called epogen alpha (or close) and is analogue-ish to epo

like mentioned above, its great for endurence and vascularity, but wont do anything directly for mass

THE DANGER is that anabolic steroid use already increases levels of endogenous epo and a side of many aas's (not just a-bombs) is secondary polycythemia, an overproduction of red blood cells. you start to get sludgey and increase the risk of clots and cardiovascular events. combine with epogen alpha and you're asking for trouble.

in fact many heavy aas users regularly donate blood to lower their RBC.


so, no lol

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[HAYEZ]

hey bro-

the drug is called epogen alpha (or close) and is analogue-ish to epo

like mentioned above, its great for endurence and vascularity, but wont do anything directly for mass

THE DANGER is that anabolic steroid use already increases levels of endogenous epo and a side of many aas's (not just a-bombs) is secondary polycythemia, an overproduction of red blood cells. you start to get sludgey and increase the risk of clots and cardiovascular events. combine with epogen alpha and you're asking for trouble.

in fact many heavy aas users regularly donate blood to lower their RBC.


so, no lol

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you think donating blood before a cycle is a good idea?

 

[juiceddreadlocks]

lol @ donating blood during a cycle... that's fucked up. You'd have to lie for so many of the questions during your screening.

 

[dabuffguy]

lol @ donating blood during a cycle... that's fucked up. You'd have to lie for so many of the questions during your screening.

yeah, because if you donated blood and it was transferred to a little kid and you have tren and anadrol in your blood, it's not gonna be pretty.

 

[Mavafanculo]

easy broleys ---- AAS use doesnt inherrently disqualify you. I imagine with fractionated blood parts, (rbc,wbc,platelets) its not an issue

The questions on injected AAS are an indirect screen for infection/HIV/Hep control. The few local blood banks who speak to AAS in qualification guidelines at all say its ok if prescribed by a doc, or an oral.

Hell, taking birth control pills or valium or blood pressure meds doesn't even disqualify you (the underlying condition might tho) - only a handfull of meds do :

from:
American Red Cross


Medications
In almost all cases, medications will not disqualify you as a blood donor. Your eligibility will be based on the reason that the medication was prescribed. As long as the condition is under control and you are healthy, blood donation is usually permitted.

Over-the-counter oral homeopathic medications, herbal remedies, and nutritional supplements are acceptable.

There are a handful of drugs that are of special significance in blood donation. Persons on these drugs have waiting periods following their last dose before they can donate blood:

Accutane, Amnesteem, Claravis or Sotret (isoretinoin), Proscar (finasteride), and Propecia (finasteride) - wait 1 month from the last dose.

Avodart (dutasteride) - wait 6 months from the last dose.

Aspirin, no waiting period for donating whole blood. However you must wait 48 hours after taking aspirin or any medication containing aspirin before donating platelets by apheresis.

Clopidogrel - wait 7 days after taking this medication before donating platelets by apheresis.

Coumadin (warfarin) , heparin or other prescription blood thinners- you should not donate since your blood will not clot normally. If your doctor discontinues your treatment with blood thinners, wait 7 days before returning to donate.

Hepatitis B Immune Globulin – given for exposure to hepatitis, wait 12 months after exposure to hepatitis.

Human pituitary-derived growth hormone at any time - you are not eligible to donate blood. [MAVA NOTE: I'm sure this is indirect screen for crutzfeld-jacob disease, not anything to do with hgh itself - specially since recombinant hgh not excluded]

Plavix - wait 7 days after taking this medication before donating platelets by apheresis.

Soriatane (acitretin) - wait 3 years.

Tegison (etretinate) at any time - you are not eligible to donate blood.

Ticlid - wait 7 days after taking this medication before donating platelets by apheresis.

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Birth Control
Women taking birth control (pills or injections) are acceptable.

Asthma
Acceptable as long as you are not having difficulty breathing at the time of donation and you otherwise feel well. Medications for asthma do not disqualify you from donating.

Blood Pressure, High
Acceptable as long as your blood pressure is below 180 systolic (first number) and below 100 diastolic (second number) at the time of donation. Medications for high blood pressure do not disqualify you from donating.

 

[dabuffguy]

I'm not allowed to donate because I have visited ancient ruins in central america. Immediate disqulification for like 4 years. Weird.