deca/teste/test prop

[dr-gains]

helo guys i am
23 years old
90 kgs
11 %bf
1.80 cm

i did 3 cycles before and this is my forth

i am planning on doing :

week 1-4 : test prop 100 mg eod
week 1-13: deca 600 mg/week
week 1-14: test e 600 mg/week
week 1-14: arimidex 0.5 mg's eod
week 1-14: proviron 50 mg/day
week 1-14: vitamin b6 300 mg's/day
week 11 - 12 - 13 : hcg pregnyl ( 1500 mg/week split 2 750's )

pct : clomid nolva
week 1 :first 3 days 150/40 then 4 days : 100/40
week 2 :100/40
week 3 :75/40
week 4 :50/20
week 5 :25/20
then 1 week nolva 10 mg's

with daa and 3g fenugreek extract/day ( test freak i have it for free )

what u guys think about the arimidex while on ? i am gyno prone and i cannot get dostinex or any caber based product

 

[Stackinplates]

Deca 600 mg no caber gyno prone

Not a good idea!!! Been doing my homework in deca I ran tren low dose my prolactin went up a bit

So thinking that if ur gyno prone why u wanna run deca without it?

 

[Stackinplates]

I mean b 6 is good but ehh think it's risky

 

[Elvia1023]

Cycle looks good. Do you have any pics?

 

[_UNIVERSAL_]

I would extend everything to 16 weeks, and drop the Deca at week 14.

I would also start the HCG from the beginning at 500iu weekly. Deca will shut you down quickly, so keeping your balls active during the duration of the cycle will help in PCT. When you get to the period where you are waiting for the esters to clear before the start of PCT, bump the dosage to 1000iu weekly, and run that through the first week of PCT.

 

[dr-gains]

thank you for the replies . cant post anny pics ...

i read that if you manage to keep your estrogene in control you wont have any progesterone side effects , so i gotta try it on myself .

and i will extend it for 16 week and add the hcg from the beginning thanks for the advice bro . but i am not sure about using it through the first week of pct , since i read it will suppress your production of LH and FSH from stimulating testosterone production . not sure about that need more opinions , if annyonetried it during pct

 

[kubes]

No don't run hcg during pct. run it during your cycle and discontinue it 3 days prior to starting pct

 

[_UNIVERSAL_]

Running HCG the first week or so of PCT has more advantages than disadvantages in my opinion, especially when running longer cycles, or deca.

 

[Elvia1023]

Running HCG the first week or so of PCT has more advantages than disadvantages in my opinion, especially when running longer cycles, or deca.

It makes very little difference imo... especially if you have been running it all through your cycle. Then you have to extend pct due to the massive estrogen rebound from the hcg.

OP I notice you are just running the HCG at the end I would add it in during your cycle. Something like 250IU twice weekly would be good (inject it the night before your test shots). So 500IU per week so you have 10 weeks supply. I would run the HCG until you start your pct so 2 weeks after your last aas shots. So sure it will be still be active when you start pct but your pct is fairly long so no worries with that. Therefore you will need another HCG unless you start it on week 6 (6-16). I would recommend starting it a few weeks in so get another hcg amp to be sure.

 

[_UNIVERSAL_]

It makes very little difference imo... especially if you have been running it all through your cycle. Then you have to extend pct due to the massive estrogen rebound from the hcg.

OP I notice you are just running the HCG at the end I would add it in during your cycle. Something like 250IU twice weekly would be good (inject it the night before your test shots). So 500IU per week so you have 10 weeks supply. I would run the HCG until you start your pct so 2 weeks after your last aas shots. So sure it will be still be active when you start pct but your pct is fairly long so no worries with that. Therefore you will need another HCG unless you start it on week 6 (6-16). I would recommend starting it a few weeks in so get another hcg amp to be sure.

To each there own.

I suggest running HCG for a short time with a SERM, that way you are stimulating both the Hyporthalamus and Pituitary at the same time. Often times, when PCT fails, it is because the Testes are still atrophied when the SERMs are added in. So they do not respond fully to the LH release from the pituitary. So by running them both together, you have the entire HPTA functioning at the same time.

Then after a week or two, you stop the HCG in hopes that the Testes will be responding fully to the LH. Then a couple weeks later you stop the SERMs, and hope that the Hypothalamus is up and going.

 

[gainzzzz]

thanks for the advices , I used to run hcg 3 to 4 weeks atvthe end of the cycle .
This cycle I will start it from week 6 to 16 like elvial advised me And see how it works for me

Next cycle ill try universal's way since you need to try it yourself to see wich one works best

Last question is 0.5 mg arimidex eod enough to avoid estrogen spike ?
If I notice something wrong in my nips should I bump it up to ed ? Or will it be too late ?
Belive it ir not this is my first time using an ai on cycle .

10x for taking time to anwer my questions much appreciated

 

[kubes]

.5 should be enough many start at .25 eod and adjust from there

 

[Elvia1023]

To each there own.

I suggest running HCG for a short time with a SERM, that way you are stimulating both the Hyporthalamus and Pituitary at the same time. Often times, when PCT fails, it is because the Testes are still atrophied when the SERMs are added in. So they do not respond fully to the LH release from the pituitary. So by running them both together, you have the entire HPTA functioning at the same time.

Then after a week or two, you stop the HCG in hopes that the Testes will be responding fully to the LH. Then a couple weeks later you stop the SERMs, and hope that the Hypothalamus is up and going.

True (good post). But if you run HCG throughout your entire cycle the testes should not be atrophied. Unlike me as my balls are the size of small marbles at the moment

 

[Elvia1023]

thanks for the advices , I used to run hcg 3 to 4 weeks atvthe end of the cycle .
This cycle I will start it from week 6 to 16 like elvial advised me And see how it works for me

Next cycle ill try universal's way since you need to try it yourself to see wich one works best

Last question is 0.5 mg arimidex eod enough to avoid estrogen spike ?
If I notice something wrong in my nips should I bump it up to ed ? Or will it be too late ?
Belive it ir not this is my first time using an ai on cycle .

10x for taking time to anwer my questions much appreciated

Arimidex is best used ed for optimal results but eod should be fine too. I would use the smallest dose of AI possible to get results. So start at 0.25 eod and increase to 0.25 ed if needed.

 

[dr-gains]

Arimidex is best used ed for optimal results but eod should be fine too. I would use the smallest dose of AI possible to get results. So start at 0.25 eod and increase to 0.25 ed if needed.

great ! ill start with 0.25 eod . more gains , less money

 

[dr-gains]

have annyone ever tried novector labs products ?

i talked to the supplier he told me that only novector labs products are available . i wanted meditech .

anw what are your opinions on them annyone tried them ?

i was searching on the web and i think they are produced by alphapharma ?

 

[dr-gains]

is alpha-pharma-meds.com a legit alpha pharma site ? cause there are about 3 alpha pharma websites

alphapharma-shop.com

alpha-pharma-meds.com

alpha-pharma.com

i just wanna know if the alpha-pharma-meds.comis a legis website , since they sell novector labs products as part of their line as i understand

they have a 350 mg/ml deca blend . im thinking of taking 2 ml of it per week if its legit

 

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