15 weeks Test E , First cycle.

[ParadiseJaxz]

Hey guys looking at starting my first ever cycle In about two weeks.

Stats: 80kg , around 13% BF , 5'9 , 21 y/o , coming up 3 years of lifting.

Now I know some of you will tell me to wait longer but this is a decision I have made based on life goals and starting tech asap is something I have confirmed 100% in my mind and it's something I think about everyday , diet is in line and training is solid.

Cycle will be as follows please critique as you feel.

Wk 1-15 test E 500mg Monday/thurs

Will be running arimidex entire way through at .5 e3d up until last shot of test E then...

Nolva 20mg ed for 6 weeks and will be starting the Clomid 21 days after last shot of test so 3 Weeks of nolva alone before I hit Clomid at...

150mg on day 1 , followed by 100mg for next 7 days followed by 50mg for 14 days

Cheers Zig

 

[STTM]

Cut the Cycle down to 12 weeks.

Continue running your AI through PCT. Switching from Adex to Aromasin at this point would be a good idea.

Instead of Nolva during the time before Cycle and PCT, use HCG, 1000iu/week. You may want to start it a bit sooner than that.

Run Clomid, Nolva, and you AI together in PCT. No reason to go above 50mg of Clomid.

1-12 Test E - 500mg/week
1-14 Adex - .5mg/e3d
10-14 HCG - 1000iu/week

15-18 Clomid 50/50/25/25
15-18 Nolva - 40/20/20/20
15-18 Aromasin - 12.5mg/eod

 

[Mr. Chicago]

^^^ Yep, and 12-14 weeks tops as well. If you came up with 15 bc you have 3 bottles they could be a little shy anyway so just fill slightly over 1 each pin and run it til you run out.

 

[ParadiseJaxz]

HCG is hard to get here at the moment bro , will be digging it up definitely for next cycles as I understand how great and beneficial it is. Will try get some aromasin , cheers.

 

[ParadiseJaxz]

^^^ Yep, and 12-14 weeks tops as well. If you came up with 15 bc you have 3 bottles they could be a little shy anyway so just fill slightly over 1 each pin and run it til you run out.

Yeah man that's the exact reason I put 15wk , will drop to 12 wk and put in a lil over the 250 each shot(nothing too noticeable 20mg-50mg ect)

 

[STTM]

HCG is hard to get here at the moment bro , will be digging it up definitely for next cycles as I understand how great and beneficial it is. Will try get some aromasin , cheers.

Where is here?

You could bump your Test dosage to 750mg/week at week 7..

 

[ParadiseJaxz]

Where is here?

You could bump your Test dosage to 750mg/week at week 7..

New Zealand Mate. Have already asked my guy for HCG and he has come back and told me i will be able to get it in a few months.

What benefit would upping to 750 at wk7 have in your opinion bro ?

 

[STTM]

There is a reason why you usually see cycles that are around 12 weeks long. You see, when you start using steroids, your body starts to adapt and counteract what they do. Eventually, muscle gains will stop. Depending on what compounds you are running, this will start to happen around week 7-8 of a cycle, and by week 12, gains will be minimal to none. This is the role of myostatin. To counteract myostatin, people will often gradually raise their doses every few weeks through-out a cycle, or add in another compound that is quite anabolic. This will help keep your body from plateauing and help to improve muscle gains. This is an up-hill battle, but an approach like this is used to get everything someone can out of a cycle. It may be considered more of an advanced approach, but I don't see why it can't be implemented in every cycle, not matter the level of experience.

 

[ParadiseJaxz]

There is a reason why you usually see cycles that are around 12 weeks long. You see, when you start using steroids, your body starts to adapt and counteract what they do. Eventually, muscle gains will stop. Depending on what compounds you are running, this will start to happen around week 7-8 of a cycle, and by week 12, gains will be minimal to none. This is the role of myostatin. To counteract myostatin, people will often gradually raise their doses every few weeks through-out a cycle, or add in another compound that is quite anabolic. This will help keep your body from plateauing and help to improve muscle gains. This is an up-hill battle, but an approach like this is used to get everything someone can out of a cycle. It may be considered more of an advanced approach, but I don't see why it can't be implemented in every cycle, not matter the level of experience.

Sweet man i can see what you mean and i will give it a go with this cycle

wk 1-7 500mg , week 7-12 750mg. How does that sound man ? keeping the shots at twice a week i presume , 325mg per shot , not trying to sound stupid just want to be 100% clear.

 

[STTM]

That is how you do it.

Just remember, the more Test you use, the more potential there is for conversion estrogen. So you may have to adjust your adex dosage once you up the Test. Nothing to extreme. You should get a good feel for how prone you are to estrogen related sides pretty quick.