deca , test cycle

[new guy needs help]

hello guys ... i am starting a cycle after a few months ... i just wanna make sure im doing it right .

i posted earlier about a cycle , and i was told to wait and do bloods , thats what im gonna do , and i was told to lower my dosages so i wanna ask if this seems ok


cycle history :

test 750 mg/week for 12 weeks

deca 600 , test 750 for 3 months ( i finished this cycle 4 months ago )

i know i should be bigger , but i have a herniated disc , and i had to stop training 2 weeks after i stopped the cycle

and i did 2 oral cycles that i dont really call cycles , that's why i didnt post about them earlier d-bol 8 weeks ... with no pct :/ i know it's fucked up but the coach is an asshole ... now i know it cz of the info and advices i got from this site and the members

anyway here's my diet :

meal 1 : 9 egg whites , 2 whole eggs + 1 cup of oats + skimmed milk + nescafe + 1 tbs honey
meal 2 : post workout shake ( 40 g prot powder ,1 tablespoon honey , 1 banan , 1 apple , skimmed milk )
meal 3 : chick breast 200 g + whole wheat pasta (50 g) + green veg + olive oil 1 tbs
meal 4 : steak (200g) + b rice ( 100g) + salade
meal 5 : turkey b (200g) + b rice ( 50 g ) + salade
meal 6 : tuna or fish fillet ( 200g) + salade + peanut butter 1 tbs
meal 7 : steak b broccoli

with every meal i consume 40 to 60 g of prot except the first one it has about 70 g , every meal has to contain proteine ,

weight : 80 kgs
bf : about 11 % maxx , i compared it with pics
height : 180
age : 22

i posted earlier about a cycle , and i was told to wait and do bloods , thats what im gonna do , and i was told to lower my dosages so i wanna ask if this seems ok :

deca 400 mg / week
test e or c or susta ? : 600 mg/week
proviron : 50 mg/day
hcg , during the cycle ... how much ? and when plz .

pct : i wil order post cycle , bridge and unleashed + clomid .
, as you advise me ... i can get letrozole if it's needed

is it ok to add 100 mg of masteron or maybe 50 mg , if it's effective eod to this cycle ? ... i dont want to bloat or gain water , i wanna stay as lean as i am or get leaner , while adding some lean muscle

thanks alot in advance

 

[dylangemelli]

your running the wrong type of cycle with the wrong types of dosing if you don't want any water gain... why would you pick deca? your going the complete opposite way of your goals... are you opposed to switching compounds you have selected?

 

[noodles1010]

^^^ THIS..


if you want lean mass just stick to a good ol test and tbol anavar on the back end. cant really go wrong with that... easy recovery and clean lean gains. thats what i think at least.

 

[new guy needs help]

your running the wrong type of cycle with the wrong types of dosing if you don't want any water gain... why would you pick deca? your going the complete opposite way of your goals... are you opposed to switching compounds you have selected?

mmm okk no deca then , what do you recommend bro ? any advice will be apreciated .

i would like to do tren ace + prop , but it is alot for a third cycle


i chose deca cause i keep reading that the diet will define if you gain water or no ... and i personaly prefer deca on other steroids ... but if it's gonna bloat me and give me water weight ... i'll switch to something else .

 

[new guy needs help]

^^^ THIS..


if you want lean mass just stick to a good ol test and tbol anavar on the back end. cant really go wrong with that... easy recovery and clean lean gains. thats what i think at least.

i apreciate your advice bro ... but i don't like oral steroids :/

 

[xdarren18]

Go with tren ace and prop bro. You've ran over 1G for a second cycle and your first cycle was 750 mg's. You can handle 100 ace eod along with 50 eod of prop. Just run the proper support supps. If 100 eod is too much , lower it to 75.

 

[new guy needs help]

Go with tren ace and prop bro. You've ran over 1G for a second cycle and your first cycle was 750 mg's. You can handle 100 ace eod along with 50 eod of prop. Just run the proper support supps. If 100 eod is too much , lower it to 75.

okk ill do that , and should't i be taking more test then the tren or at least the same dose ... ? 100 prop + 100 tren ace eod ? i always read about more test than the other compound , anyway with tren it's always in reverse ... idk why

how much can i extend the cycle ? 8 weeks tren and 10 weeks prop , or 10 weeks tren , 12 prop ?

i always wanted to do a tren cycle , i hear lot of good things about the results , but i also hear the sides are verry bad , ill try it and if i feel anything wrong ill stop it .

any advice about the hcg ? when and how much ?
do i add annything on my pct ? since tren is hard to recover from

i will be taking theese supplements with the pct , to try to maintain as much as i can :
bcaas , creatine hcl , whey of course , glutamine , yohimbe


any advice on the supplements , what to add and what to remove will be apreciated

is taking a thermogenic after a cycle a bad idea ?
cz i was thinking of adding a thermogenig to the supplements so i dnt gain any fat after the cycle . or maybe clen

 

[Essie]

If you really want to run the Nandrolone hormone and you are looking at little bloat and water retention, then rather pin NPP - Nandrolone Phenyl Propionate. The ester attached to the Nandrolone hormone in NPP is a short acting one and you hold a helluva lot less fluids than on the Decanoate ester, however, your strentgh will be less on NPP than on Deca as your joints will be drier. Deca is for bulking purposes combined with a Test base and something like Cabaser on cycle.

 

[xdarren18]

okk ill do that , and should't i be taking more test then the tren or at least the same dose ... ? 100 prop + 100 tren ace eod ? i always read about more test than the other compound , anyway with tren it's always in reverse ... idk why

how much can i extend the cycle ? 8 weeks tren and 10 weeks prop , or 10 weeks tren , 12 prop ?

i always wanted to do a tren cycle , i hear lot of good things about the results , but i also hear the sides are verry bad , ill try it and if i feel anything wrong ill stop it .

any advice about the hcg ? when and how much ?
do i add annything on my pct ? since tren is hard to recover from

i will be taking theese supplements with the pct , to try to maintain as much as i can :
bcaas , creatine hcl , whey of course , glutamine , yohimbe


any advice on the supplements , what to add and what to remove will be apreciated

is taking a thermogenic after a cycle a bad idea ?
cz i was thinking of adding a thermogenig to the supplements so i dnt gain any fat after the cycle . or maybe clen

You can run the cycle 8 or 10 weeks. Run the tren and test the same amount of time. Run the tren higher then the test. Run caber with the tren just like you ran with Deca.
1-8 tren ace - 100 mg EOD
1-8 test prop 50-75 mg eod
1-8 - n2guard ( this will really help with tren sides. control your bp , etc )
1-8 caber. .5 e3d
4-8 hcgenerate ES ( will help transition into pct smoothly )
Run the PCT you posted before. Clomid , post cycle , unleashed , bridge.
That is how I ran my tren/ prop cycle.

 

[new guy needs help]

You can run the cycle 8 or 10 weeks. Run the tren and test the same amount of time. Run the tren higher then the test. Run caber with the tren just like you ran with Deca.
1-8 tren ace - 100 mg EOD
1-8 test prop 50-75 mg eod
1-8 - n2guard ( this will really help with tren sides. control your bp , etc )
1-8 caber. .5 e3d
4-8 hcgenerate ES ( will help transition into pct smoothly )
Run the PCT you posted before. Clomid , post cycle , unleashed , bridge.
That is how I ran my tren/ prop cycle.

okk bro thanks alot ... caber is the same thing like proviron or better ?

and about the hcg , how much should i run 1500 mg / week split on 2 dosages ? i will be doing the cycle for 10 weeks so i start hcg from week 4 to week 10 ? or i start from week 6 ? ...

does adding nolvadex to the pct help ?

does taking proviron with the pct help ?

10x alot bro , and sry for all the questions , i just wanna have it all clear .

i'll order 2 bottles of post cycle , 2 unleashed ,1 bridge ? or 2 ? ...