Cycle opinion

[bgriffin989]

I am trying to put together a long estered cycle to start after the New Years. I am thinking of running Test E, EQ, and primo....

Cycle history- last cycle was test p, tren ace, and master

Have ran a 20 week of EQ and test e in the past and loved the results.. But now I can finally get primobolan so I want to try this stuff.

Stats- 29 yo
225lbs
10-11% bf
Been lifting 14 years

So what I was thinking was a 20 week cycle at:
Test E-500mg/wk
EQ-600mg/wk
Primo-600mg/wk
Hcg-500iu 2X a week from weeks 10 to 15 and weeks 20 to 25 then start pct when all has cleared my system.

On cycle supps-
Hcgenerate
N2guard
Aromasin
Ruthless multi vitamin


Pct-
Clomid-100,75,50,25,25,25,25
Post cycle/unleashed (2 bottles of each)
Forma
Bridge
DAA
Might throw in some extra zinc to boost natty test.

So what do you guys think? Where do you think I need to make adjustments? Looking to put on alot of quality mass and stay as lean as possible.. If I go up in bf it's cool... Ill shred that off before summer.. Gonna be aiming for 5000 cals a day (shouldn't be a problem cause EQ makes me hungry)

 

[musclei]

Primo expensive. Are you sure you want to use it for bulking, in the Winter? Maybe switch Primo for Deca and save it for the Summer? Other than that it looks good to me.

 

[dylangemelli]

i like what your running and the doses your running but i don't see the need to run i longer than 16 weeks... there is no need for that... 16 is perfect for that cycle... i wouldn't hit clomid at 100... i would definitely go higher than normal after a cycle that long but not that high... i would drop bridge from pct and run test fusion from mr supps... otherwise, i like it man... its laid out pretty good and i think you could make some excellent gains on that cycle...

 

[bgriffin989]

Primo expensive. Are you sure you want to use it for bulking, in the Winter? Maybe switch Primo for Deca and save it for the Summer? Other than that it looks good to me.

I know primo isn't a "bulker" but I keep my diet clean and think it will help me stay lean while on... I fucking hate deca... Shit makes me bloated as fuck... I just wanna try primo out to see if its worth the $$$ for the results it gives

 

[bgriffin989]

i like what your running and the doses your running but i don't see the need to run i longer than 16 weeks... there is no need for that... 16 is perfect for that cycle... i wouldn't hit clomid at 100... i would definitely go higher than normal after a cycle that long but not that high... i would drop bridge from pct and run test fusion from mr supps... otherwise, i like it man... its laid out pretty good and i think you could make some excellent gains on that cycle...

Thanks for your advice... I honestly just figured they are all long estered so running them those extra 4 weeks would pan out in my favor.. I read a couple of logs and they said primo was ran for 20 and worked really well.. Some people even bumped it up to 800mg/ wk.. I'm on bridge right now and love it!!! Have kept 99% of my gain from previous cycle from double dosing bridge.. Is there a reason (ingredient) that you prefer in the fusion the bridge doesn't have?

 

[musclei]

I know primo isn't a "bulker" but I keep my diet clean and think it will help me stay lean while on... I fucking hate deca... Shit makes me bloated as fuck... I just wanna try primo out to see if its worth the $$$ for the results it gives

Well, I haven't tried Primo yet so I can't recommend but I've read stories of people using it for bulk successfully so why not!

 

[bgriffin989]

Well, I haven't tried Primo yet so I can't recommend but I've read stories of people using it for bulk successfully so why not!

Yeah thats what im thinking.. What about throwing an oral kick start in? Like week 1-4 dbol 30mg/day? Or winny 50mg/day?

 

[JoeBlob]

Yeah thats what im thinking.. What about throwing an oral kick start in? Like week 1-4 dbol 30mg/day? Or winny 50mg/day?

Tbol first 4 or 5 weeks would be nice at 60mg. Dbol and Winny are completely different and Tbol is kindof in the middle... Big strength gains with no bloat... I don't like winny on the front end of a cycle anyways though.. Doesn't get me goin like Dbol or Tbol does

 

[bgriffin989]

Tbol first 4 or 5 weeks would be nice at 60mg. Dbol and Winny are completely different and Tbol is kindof in the middle... Big strength gains with no bloat... I don't like winny on the front end of a cycle anyways though.. Doesn't get me goin like Dbol or Tbol does

I agree with ya there.. It makes my joints hurt like a bitch.. I do get good pumps tho.. But dbol i do too.. Never tried tbol but heard great things.. I think I'm gonna snag me some dbol to start the cycle with...

 

[bgriffin989]

Suppression sould be pretty mild right? Still up in the air if I should go 20 or 16 weeks...

 

[dylangemelli]

Thanks for your advice... I honestly just figured they are all long estered so running them those extra 4 weeks would pan out in my favor.. I read a couple of logs and they said primo was ran for 20 and worked really well.. Some people even bumped it up to 800mg/ wk.. I'm on bridge right now and love it!!! Have kept 99% of my gain from previous cycle from double dosing bridge.. Is there a reason (ingredient) that you prefer in the fusion the bridge doesn't have?

bridge is better suited for keeping gains and strength in between cycles where test fusion is aimed more at recovery... you can use bridge in pct, but there are better options...

you could run 20 weeks bro but i think its really unneccessary unless you plan on cruising, which it appears you are not...

you could run anavar as a kickstart as well... i wouldn't run dbol on this cycle... its such a lean cycle, it doesn't seem conducive to run dbol on this cycle bro... keep it lean gains bro!

 

[bgriffin989]

I hear ya Dylan! Thanks for the input... Yeah not lookin to cruise just yet... Gonna wait till I'm 35 to start that.. I think 16 weeks will give me what I want so why push it ya know?

 

[dylangemelli]

I hear ya Dylan! Thanks for the input... Yeah not lookin to cruise just yet... Gonna wait till I'm 35 to start that.. I think 16 weeks will give me what I want so why push it ya know?

i think thats best bro... i don't think the gains on the extra 4 weeks will be significant enough to warrant you having to recover the extra time... that's time you could be already starting a new cycle later... i think 16 will give you all you want and more

 

[bgriffin989]

Dylan have you ran primo before?

 

[musclei]

Yeah thats what im thinking.. What about throwing an oral kick start in? Like week 1-4 dbol 30mg/day? Or winny 50mg/day?

I wouldn't use Dbol with Primo. Why be bloated when you should be looking awesome from the Primo? And whinny is not a starter. I haven't tried Tbol yet but if you're gonna use something, that'd be what I'd go for.

Your cycle looks solid enough as it is though, but just in case you want an oral.

 

[dylangemelli]

Dylan have you ran primo before?

no but i am set to run it on my next cycle with test, mast and anavar and possibly eq... =)

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

Dylan have you ran primo before?

I have, and would run it again but 16-20 weeks min.

 

[bgriffin989]

Cool.. Is 600mg a week a good dose?

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

Cool.. Is 600mg a week a good dose?

I ran 500mg....but 600mg is a good dose indeed.

 

[bgriffin989]

I ran 500mg....but 600mg is a good dose indeed.

Gorilla u have any sides?

 

[Gorilla-Pharma]

No sides unless you count hard and vascular... Nothing bad, mild acne on back.