First Cycle:Need Help

[ironman187420]

Hey guys I've finally decided to do my first cycle and was hoping to get some incite and help from some of you vets about fine tuning my cycle. I was planning on doing a 12 week cycle of 400mg EQ and 400mg Deca. I know its a different combo but I have read some people really liking the cycle. My main goals are to get good solid gains that stay after the cycle, I'm in no rush to balloon up just packing on lean gains. Now everyone always says to have test in a cycle pretty much no matter what especially if its my first time due to the great results I'll have. The reason why I don't really want test in a cycle is do to the sides, mainly acne. I feel I'm predisposed to it and even when trying just a prohormone I noticed my face breaking out fairly bad so I stopped it. So I chose those to avoid face acne, plus they seem low on sides. So please any help would be greatly appreciated on fine tuning my cycle or creating one for me that you think i would see the best results from that really wouldn't cause facial acne. Also some advice on a PCT would be nice cause i heard novadex wouldnt do anything for this style of cycle so I was probably gonna run HCG during. Thanks Again!!

 

[deejleos]

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Shouldnt run deca first cycle an definitely shouldn't run deca without test. Really gotta research PCT it's almost more important than actual cycle. Not wanting to do test cuz of of sides is super lame, u don't always get these sides u will get worse sides from deca. Not to mention ur dick can stop working on deca. I would take acne over my dick not working but that's just me.


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[Arabian]

EQ and Deca shut down your natural testosterone production, so you need to run Test with it. Deca will shut you down hard, and since you are not going to have any test in your body, you are going to get some major sides. Around week 6 you will will feel like SH*( and be lethargic. It takes 8 - 10 weeks for both EQ and Deca to kick in , so I fail to see how running 2 long acting esters is going to do anything for you.

 

[HAYEZ]

your cycle will leave you with a non functioning cock...mood swings..depression and acne

deca gives more cyctic acne then test does

the key to not getting sides is to control your blood levels

1-10 test 500mg ew
1-10 adex.25mgeod to control estrogen fluctuations which in turn will give no acne..go tanning twice weekly and u will have no acne
1-10 ew 400mg ew
people say run eq longer blah blah u dont need to
this cycle will give great gains

 

[gymjunkie09]

your cycle will leave you with a non functioning cock...mood swings..depression and acne

deca gives more cyctic acne then test does

the key to not getting sides is to control your blood levels

1-10 test 500mg ew
1-10 adex.25mgeod to control estrogen fluctuations which in turn will give no acne..go tanning twice weekly and u will have no acne
1-10 ew 400mg ew
people say run eq longer blah blah u dont need to
this cycle will give great gains

ive always had problems with acne on my back and then ran test and deca and it actually cleared it up lol....I also started sitting in the sauna for 15 min after every workout wich i think helped also

 

[HAYEZ]

ive always had problems with acne on my back and then ran test and deca and it actually cleared it up lol....I also started sitting in the sauna for 15 min after every workout wich i think helped also

i had acne for years also..deca made it terrible..i used 4 months accutane at 20mg ed and it cleared it up 99% ..hit the tanner and trouble free..acne is a son of a bitch to deal with

 

[ironman187420]

thanks everyone for your help. I think I'll work with the cycle you recommended hayez, just wonder though since this is my first cycle since ill be taking the adex there should be no need for nolva or should i still have some on hand just incase. Also for my pct clomid should be all i need right? thanks again

 

[HAYEZ]

nolva isnt needed until after cycle is over for pct..start pct 14 day after last shot..my pct and the boards pct differ as im old school

use hcg up until 4 days before pct starts

pct
nolva 40mg 14 days
nolva 20mg 14 days
add in whatever other otc products these guys suggest as i dont follow the new trends so i dont know

 

[deejleos]

thanks everyone for your help. I think I'll work with the cycle you recommended hayez, just wonder though since this is my first cycle since ill be taking the adex there should be no need for nolva or should i still have some on hand just incase. Also for my pct clomid should be all i need right? thanks again

PCT
Forma stanzol on cycle
Hcgenerate 4 weeks into cycle
Unleashed/ post cycle after cycle

Clomid,Nolva,Adex are real deal serious drugs, so u dont wanna have to more drugs then are absolutely needed, u can have very successful PCT, without the serious drugs, but do what's best for you, as we just give our opinions.

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[ironman187420]

I like the idea of using Forma stanzol although I'm a little unsure about the unleashed and post cycle just because iv heard mixed things. I'm almost wondering if id just be safer to stick with nolva and clomid