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Ohio Senator, Warren G. Harding, who was elected to the Presidency in 1920, said in a 1921 Congressional inquiry that the Reserve was a private banking monopoly. He said: "The Federal Reserve Bank is an institution owned by the stockholding member banks. The Government has not a dollar's worth of stock in it." His term was cut short in 1923 when he mysteriously died, leading to rumors that he was poisoned. This claim was never substantiated because his wife would not allow an autopsy.
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Plain and simple, the Federal Reserve is not part of the Federal Government. It is a privately held corporation owned by stockholders. That is why the Federal Reserve Bank of New York (and all the others) is listed in the Dun and Bradstreet Reference Book of American Business
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Bert Lance, the Georgia banker and political advisor to Carter who became his Budget Director and was later forced to resign...said that if Volcker was appointed he would be "mortgaging his re-election to the Federal Reserve." Lance predicted that he would bring high interest rates and high unemployment. He was confirmed by the Senate Banking Committee in August, 1979, replacing Arthur Burns, an Austrian-born economist who was a CFR member with close ties to the Rockefellers. Volcker was against a gold-backed dollar or gold being used as a form of currency. He attempted to tighten the money situation in order to curb the 10% annual growth in the money supply, and to ease the pressure of loan demand. The result [of his policy] was a dramatic increase in interest rates, which climbed to 13.5% by September, 1979, and then soared to 21.5% by December, 1980.
[We may speculate] that this economic decline was purposely engineered to cause the political decline of Carter.
[We may speculate] that this economic decline was purposely engineered to cause the political decline of Carter.
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The real owners of the Federal Reserve and the Federal Reserve System are:
a) Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin;
b) Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris;
c) Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy;
d) Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam;
e) Lehman Brothers Bank of New York;
f) Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York;
g) Chase Manhattan Bank of New York;
h) Goldman Sachs Bank of New York; and
i) Approximately three hundred people, known to each other and/or relations of the "owners," who hold stock in the Federal Reserve System. They comprise an interlocking, International Banking Cartel of wealth beyond comprehension.
a) Rothschild Banks of London and Berlin;
b) Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris;
c) Israel Moses Seif Banks of Italy;
d) Warburg Bank of Hamburg and Amsterdam;
e) Lehman Brothers Bank of New York;
f) Kuhn, Loeb Bank of New York;
g) Chase Manhattan Bank of New York;
h) Goldman Sachs Bank of New York; and
i) Approximately three hundred people, known to each other and/or relations of the "owners," who hold stock in the Federal Reserve System. They comprise an interlocking, International Banking Cartel of wealth beyond comprehension.
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On June 4, 1963, a virtually unknown Presidential decree, Executive Order 11110, was signed with the authority to basically strip the Federal Reserve Bank of its power to loan money to the United States Federal Government at interest. With the stroke of a pen, President Kennedy declared that the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank would soon be out of business. The Christian Law Fellowship has exhaustively researched this matter through the Federal Register and Library of Congress. We can now safely conclude that this Executive Order has never been repealed, amended, or superceded by any subsequent Executive Order. In simple terms, it is still valid.
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When President John Fitzgerald Kennedy - the author of Profiles in Courage -signed this Order, it returned to the federal government, specifically the Treasury Department, the Constitutional power to create and issue currency -money - without going through the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank. President Kennedy's Executive Order 11110 [the full text is displayed further below] gave the Treasury Department the explicit authority: "to issue silver certificates against any silver bullion, silver, or standard silver dollars in the Treasury." This means that for every ounce of silver in the U.S. Treasury's vault, the government could introduce new money into circulation based on the silver bullion physically held there. As a result, more than $4 billion in United States Notes were brought into circulation in $2 and $5 denominations. $10 and $20 United States Notes were never circulated but were being printed by the Treasury Department when Kennedy was assassinated.
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javaguru said:
I know who you work for.
Your BS is in history. Mine would be in economics if I had passed the foreign language requirement. All other requirements were fulfilled.
So kindly butt out.
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President Kennedy was assassinated on November 22, 1963 and the United States Notes he had issued were immediately taken out of circulation. Federal Reserve Notes continued to serve as the legal currency of the nation. According to the United States Secret Service, 99% of all U.S. paper "currency" circulating in 1999 are Federal Reserve Notes.
Kennedy knew that if the silver-backed United States Notes were widely circulated, they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. This is a very simple matter of economics. The USN was backed by silver and the FRN was not backed by anything of intrinsic value. Executive Order 11110 should have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level (virtually all of the nearly $9 trillion in federal debt has been created since 1963) if LBJ or any subsequent President were to enforce it. It would have almost immediately given the U.S. Government the ability to repay its debt without going to the private Federal Reserve Banks and being charged interest to create new "money". Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S.A. the ability to, once again, create its own money backed by silver and realm value worth something.
Kennedy knew that if the silver-backed United States Notes were widely circulated, they would have eliminated the demand for Federal Reserve Notes. This is a very simple matter of economics. The USN was backed by silver and the FRN was not backed by anything of intrinsic value. Executive Order 11110 should have prevented the national debt from reaching its current level (virtually all of the nearly $9 trillion in federal debt has been created since 1963) if LBJ or any subsequent President were to enforce it. It would have almost immediately given the U.S. Government the ability to repay its debt without going to the private Federal Reserve Banks and being charged interest to create new "money". Executive Order 11110 gave the U.S.A. the ability to, once again, create its own money backed by silver and realm value worth something.
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In a comment made to a Columbia University class on Nov. 12, 1963,
Ten days before his assassination, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy allegedly said:
"The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
In this matter, John Fitzgerald Kennedy appears to be the subject of his own book... a true Profile of Courage.
Ten days before his assassination, President John Fitzgerald Kennedy allegedly said:
"The high office of the President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom and before I leave office, I must inform the citizen of this plight."
In this matter, John Fitzgerald Kennedy appears to be the subject of his own book... a true Profile of Courage.
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javaguru said:I've never heard of a BS in history but a conspiracy theory nut wouldn't care about facts, I understand... I hear the US never landed on the moon....
Working overtime? I'm surprised that more of your co-workers have not pounced on this thread...yet.
tactics to use:
distract
discredit
ridicule
use: moonbat, liberal, tin foil hat, conspiracy theorist
attempt to take the high road. be "above"
tactics to avoid:
debate
debunk
disprove
Ya'll need a new OPs manual.
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Huh....link worked a few minutes ago.
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After a huge public relations campaign, engineered by the foreign central banks, the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was slipped through Congress during the Christmas recess, with many members of the Congress absent. President Woodrow Wilson, pressured by his political and financial backers, signed it on December 23, 1913.
The act created the Federal Reserve System, a name carefully selected and designed to deceive. "Federal" would lead one to believe that this is a government organization. "Reserve" would lead one to believe that the currency is being backed by gold and silver. "System" was used in lieu of the word "bank" so that one would not conclude that a new central bank had been created.
In reality, the act created a private, for profit, central banking corporation owned by a cartel of private banks. Who owns the FED? The Rothschilds of London and Berlin; Lazard Brothers of Paris; Israel Moses Seif of Italy; Kuhn, Loeb and Warburg of Germany; and the Lehman Brothers, Goldman, Sachs and the Rockefeller families of New York.
Did you know that the FED is the only for-profit corporation in America that is exempt from both federal and state taxes? The FED takes in about one trillion dollars per year tax free! The banking families listed above get all that money.
Huh....all those courses didn't really cover this.
The act created the Federal Reserve System, a name carefully selected and designed to deceive. "Federal" would lead one to believe that this is a government organization. "Reserve" would lead one to believe that the currency is being backed by gold and silver. "System" was used in lieu of the word "bank" so that one would not conclude that a new central bank had been created.
In reality, the act created a private, for profit, central banking corporation owned by a cartel of private banks. Who owns the FED? The Rothschilds of London and Berlin; Lazard Brothers of Paris; Israel Moses Seif of Italy; Kuhn, Loeb and Warburg of Germany; and the Lehman Brothers, Goldman, Sachs and the Rockefeller families of New York.
Did you know that the FED is the only for-profit corporation in America that is exempt from both federal and state taxes? The FED takes in about one trillion dollars per year tax free! The banking families listed above get all that money.
Huh....all those courses didn't really cover this.
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When was the income tax created? If you guessed 1913, the same year that the FED was created, you get a gold star.
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ill debate your conspiracy theories all day.
ill warn you: if you start telling me that Bush has a financial interest in high gas prices, or that we started the war in Iraq in order to line the pockets of Halliburton execs, that's the point the debate stops. I'm not gonna deal with these garbage Michael Moore-esque assertions.
ill warn you: if you start telling me that Bush has a financial interest in high gas prices, or that we started the war in Iraq in order to line the pockets of Halliburton execs, that's the point the debate stops. I'm not gonna deal with these garbage Michael Moore-esque assertions.
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If "We the People" don't take some action now, there may come a time when "We the People" are no more. You should write a letter or send an email to each of your elected representatives. Many of our elected representatives do not understand the FED. Once informed they will not be able to plead ignorance and remain silent.
Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution specifically says that Congress is the only body that can "coin money and regulate the value thereof." The US Constitution has never been amended to allow anyone other than Congress to coin and regulate currency.
Ask your representative, in light of that information, how it is possible for the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and the Federal Reserve Bank that it created, to be constitutional. Ask them why this private banking cartel is allowed to reap trillions of dollars in profits without paying taxes. Insist on an answer.
Thomas Jefferson said, "If the America people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
Article 1, Section 8 of the US Constitution specifically says that Congress is the only body that can "coin money and regulate the value thereof." The US Constitution has never been amended to allow anyone other than Congress to coin and regulate currency.
Ask your representative, in light of that information, how it is possible for the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, and the Federal Reserve Bank that it created, to be constitutional. Ask them why this private banking cartel is allowed to reap trillions of dollars in profits without paying taxes. Insist on an answer.
Thomas Jefferson said, "If the America people ever allow private banks to control the issuance of their currencies, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all their prosperity until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
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Only if you want to be wrong..... See....Internal Revenue act of 1862...Testosterone boy said:
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html
"In 1862, in order to support the Civil War effort, Congress enacted the nation's first income tax law. It was a forerunner of our modern income tax in that it was based on the principles of graduated, or progressive, taxation and of withholding income at the source. During the Civil War, a person earning from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%. Those with incomes of more than $10,000 paid taxes at a higher rate. Additional sales and excise taxes were added, and an “inheritance” tax also made its debut. In 1866, internal revenue collections reached their highest point in the nation's 90-year history—more than $310 million, an amount not reached again until 1911."
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George Bush presided over a minor change in the Federal Reserve Act. The Sarbanes-Oxley Act was passed in 2002. The American Congress failed again to deal with the Federal Reserve. Bush managed to keep all discussion and changes confined to some reporting requirements for financial institutions. Bush knows very well who he serves, and he really serves his master well. It's amazing how few grasped the significance of Alan Greenspan being knighted by the Queen of England! Greenspan was knighted on September 26, 2002. An obvious reward for preventing any real discussion, or change, of the Federal Reserve during the Sarbanes-Oxley Act debates.
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"The high office of President has been used to format a plot to destroy the American's freedom, and before I leave office must inform the citizen of his plight." (John F. Kennedy at Columbia University, 10 days before his assassination).
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Here is a quote from John Adams: "I am firmly of the opinion that there never was a paper pound, a paper dollar, or a paper promise of any kind, that ever yet obtained a general currency [as money] but by force or fraud, generally by both."
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Only if you want to be wrong..... See....Internal Revenue act of 1862...
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0005921.html
"In 1862, in order to support the Civil War effort, Congress enacted the nation's first income tax law. It was a forerunner of our modern income tax in that it was based on the principles of graduated, or progressive, taxation and of withholding income at the source. During the Civil War, a person earning from $600 to $10,000 per year paid tax at the rate of 3%. Those with incomes of more than $10,000 paid taxes at a higher rate. Additional sales and excise taxes were added, and an “inheritance” tax also made its debut. In 1866, internal revenue collections reached their highest point in the nation's 90-year history—more than $310 million, an amount not reached again until 1911."
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1781: George Washington wrote to John Laurens and said: "Experience has demonstrated the impracticability long to maintain a paper credit without funds for its redemption."
APRIL 12, 1782: John Adams negotiated with the Netherlands to receive a loan and recognition for the United States.
APRIL 19, 1782: The Netherlands recognized the independence of the United States.
JUNE 11, 1782: Dutch bankers agree to lend two million dollars to the United States.
OCTOBER 8, 1782: A treaty of commerce and friendship was signed between the United States and the Netherlands.
NOVEMBER 30, 1782: A preliminary peace treaty is signed between the United States and England. The most important provisions are the establishment of boundaries and recognition of American independence. All debts due to creditors of either country are accepted as valid debts.
FEBRUARY 28, 1785: Britain threatens to break off the treaty because Americans have failed to comply with the treaty, by having paid the debts owed to Britain.
JUNE-SEPTEMBER 1785: There is a major depression because of unstable paper money resulting in falling prices. This allowed some of the States to discharge their debts on a basis which was sometimes a thousand to one.
1786: The board of Treasury in 1786 condemned paper currency "the revival of a paper currency and the rage for another experiment in this fallacious medium that has so far prevailed as to enter into the system of revenue of several States"
1787: During the federal convention, Roger Sherman made the statement that: "no Government has a right to impose on its subjects any foreign currency to be received in payments as money which is not of intrinsic value: unless such Government will assume and undertake to secure and make good to the possessor of such currency the full value which they oblige him to receive it
for."
JANUARY 27, 1787: Shays rebellion took place because of financial depression.
JANUARY 14, 1790: Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton says the United States should pay its debts at par value, even though many speculators would profit by this.[As a footnote Alexander Hamilton married into the Rothschild family December 14, 1780, Alexander Hamilton was born Alexander Levine, of Jewish lineage, in St. Croix, the West Indies. After changing his name and his geographical situs, he married Elizabeth Schuyler, the second daughter of Phillip Schuyler, at the bride's home in Albany, New York. The bride's mother was Catherine Van Rensselaer, daughter of Colonel John R. Van Rensselaer, who was the son of Hendrik, the grandson of Killiaen, the first partroon. [THE INTIMATE LIFE OF ALEXANDER HAMILTON, by Allan Hamilton 1910]
[It has been reported that there are documents in the British museum that prove Alexander Hamilton received payment from the Rothschild's for his dastardly deeds. Could this payment have been for his involvement in the establishment of a foreign bank in this country, and for convincing Congress to assume the States debts, which would have created a debt obligation binding the United States government and the States to the international bankers?]
JUNE 20, 1790: Alexander Hamilton convinces Congress to pass the Assumption Act, under which the federal government is to assume the States debts.
DECEMBER 14, 1790: Alexander Hamilton submits a plan for a bank of the United States, mainly as a vehicle for the funding of debts under the Assumption Act and to establish credit.
FEBRUARY 25, 1791: The bank of the United States is chartered.
MARCH 1-2, 1792: Congress debates the propriety of Alexander Hamilton's conduct of his office as Secretary of the Treasury. Nothing irregular is discovered.
APRIL 2, 1792: Congress passes the Coinage Act, which establishes a mint and prescribes a decimal system of coinage.
FEBRUARY 2, 1793: Alexander Hamilton resigns as Secretary of Treasury.
JANUARY 24-FEBRUARY 20, 1811: Congress debates renewal of the charter for the Bank of the United States.
MARCH 4, 1811: The Bank of the United States is closed permanently.
1812-1815: The War of 1812 breaks out with Britain.
APRIL 12, 1782: John Adams negotiated with the Netherlands to receive a loan and recognition for the United States.
APRIL 19, 1782: The Netherlands recognized the independence of the United States.
JUNE 11, 1782: Dutch bankers agree to lend two million dollars to the United States.
OCTOBER 8, 1782: A treaty of commerce and friendship was signed between the United States and the Netherlands.
NOVEMBER 30, 1782: A preliminary peace treaty is signed between the United States and England. The most important provisions are the establishment of boundaries and recognition of American independence. All debts due to creditors of either country are accepted as valid debts.
FEBRUARY 28, 1785: Britain threatens to break off the treaty because Americans have failed to comply with the treaty, by having paid the debts owed to Britain.
JUNE-SEPTEMBER 1785: There is a major depression because of unstable paper money resulting in falling prices. This allowed some of the States to discharge their debts on a basis which was sometimes a thousand to one.
1786: The board of Treasury in 1786 condemned paper currency "the revival of a paper currency and the rage for another experiment in this fallacious medium that has so far prevailed as to enter into the system of revenue of several States"
1787: During the federal convention, Roger Sherman made the statement that: "no Government has a right to impose on its subjects any foreign currency to be received in payments as money which is not of intrinsic value: unless such Government will assume and undertake to secure and make good to the possessor of such currency the full value which they oblige him to receive it
for."
JANUARY 27, 1787: Shays rebellion took place because of financial depression.
JANUARY 14, 1790: Treasury Secretary Alexander Hamilton says the United States should pay its debts at par value, even though many speculators would profit by this.[As a footnote Alexander Hamilton married into the Rothschild family December 14, 1780, Alexander Hamilton was born Alexander Levine, of Jewish lineage, in St. Croix, the West Indies. After changing his name and his geographical situs, he married Elizabeth Schuyler, the second daughter of Phillip Schuyler, at the bride's home in Albany, New York. The bride's mother was Catherine Van Rensselaer, daughter of Colonel John R. Van Rensselaer, who was the son of Hendrik, the grandson of Killiaen, the first partroon. [THE INTIMATE LIFE OF ALEXANDER HAMILTON, by Allan Hamilton 1910]
[It has been reported that there are documents in the British museum that prove Alexander Hamilton received payment from the Rothschild's for his dastardly deeds. Could this payment have been for his involvement in the establishment of a foreign bank in this country, and for convincing Congress to assume the States debts, which would have created a debt obligation binding the United States government and the States to the international bankers?]
JUNE 20, 1790: Alexander Hamilton convinces Congress to pass the Assumption Act, under which the federal government is to assume the States debts.
DECEMBER 14, 1790: Alexander Hamilton submits a plan for a bank of the United States, mainly as a vehicle for the funding of debts under the Assumption Act and to establish credit.
FEBRUARY 25, 1791: The bank of the United States is chartered.
MARCH 1-2, 1792: Congress debates the propriety of Alexander Hamilton's conduct of his office as Secretary of the Treasury. Nothing irregular is discovered.
APRIL 2, 1792: Congress passes the Coinage Act, which establishes a mint and prescribes a decimal system of coinage.
FEBRUARY 2, 1793: Alexander Hamilton resigns as Secretary of Treasury.
JANUARY 24-FEBRUARY 20, 1811: Congress debates renewal of the charter for the Bank of the United States.
MARCH 4, 1811: The Bank of the United States is closed permanently.
1812-1815: The War of 1812 breaks out with Britain.
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MARCH 4, 1811: The Bank of the United States is closed permanently.
1812-1815: The War of 1812 breaks out with Britain.
DECEMBER 5, 1815: President Madison proposes a second Bank of the United States to succeed the first Bank that failed to be rechartered in 1811.
MARCH 14, 1816: Congress creates the second Bank of the United States.
JANUARY 7, 1817: The second Bank of the United States is opened.
SEPTEMBER 11, 1830: The Anti-Masonic party acquires national status by holding a convention in Philadelphia.
DECEMBER 6, 1830: President Andrew Jackson attacks the Bank of the United States.
SEPTEMBER 26, 1831: The Anti-Masonic party holds a national convention in Baltimore.
MARCH 17, 1832: The Banking Select Committee said: "That the consequences of the present, is that the currency of the United States is bank notes, to the exclusion of the precious metals. The exclusion of gold and silver coins from circulation is a serious defect, which ought not to be tolerated, and which should be speedily remedied. There is not an example on record of the successful issue of a paper currency, and our experiment has been too short and dubious to prove its suitableness as a permanent regulation."
JUNE 11, 1832: A bill to renew the charter of the Bank of the United States is submitted by Congress.
JULY 3 1832: The Bank bill is approved.
OCTOBER 1832: The Anti-Masonic party backs Andrew Jackson, and he is re-elected.
JUNE 1, 1833: The Secretary of Treasury refuses to follow the order of President Jackson to distribute the Bank of United States funds into State banks.
SEPTEMBER 18, 1833: President Jackson reads to his cabinet a paper drafted by the Attorney General as to the reasons why the federal deposits should be removed from the Bank of the United States.
DECEMBER 26, 1833: Senator Henry Clay offers two resolutions of censure against President Jackson for his plan to remove deposits from the Bank of the United States.
MARCH 17, 1834: Representative Gillet, a member of the Banking Select Committee, concurred in the expediency of increasing the circulation of gold coin, arguing that, "under the paper system, banks have broken, and on whom did the loss most severely fall? Upon the poor, who understood little of the condition and credit of banks. The wealthy usually foresaw the evil and protected themselves."
MARCH 28, 1834: The Senate approves the criticizing of President Jackson.
APRIL 4, 1834: The House passes four resolutions sustaining the bank policy of the Jackson administration.
APRIL 15, 1834: President Jackson makes a formal protest to the Senate concerning its resolution of censure.
MAY 7, 1834: The Senate refuses to enter President Jackson's protest in its journals.
DECEMBER 1, 1834: President Jackson declares that the national debt will be paid off JANUARY 1, 1835.
JANUARY 30, 1835: There is an attempt to assassinate President Jackson.
1812-1815: The War of 1812 breaks out with Britain.
DECEMBER 5, 1815: President Madison proposes a second Bank of the United States to succeed the first Bank that failed to be rechartered in 1811.
MARCH 14, 1816: Congress creates the second Bank of the United States.
JANUARY 7, 1817: The second Bank of the United States is opened.
SEPTEMBER 11, 1830: The Anti-Masonic party acquires national status by holding a convention in Philadelphia.
DECEMBER 6, 1830: President Andrew Jackson attacks the Bank of the United States.
SEPTEMBER 26, 1831: The Anti-Masonic party holds a national convention in Baltimore.
MARCH 17, 1832: The Banking Select Committee said: "That the consequences of the present, is that the currency of the United States is bank notes, to the exclusion of the precious metals. The exclusion of gold and silver coins from circulation is a serious defect, which ought not to be tolerated, and which should be speedily remedied. There is not an example on record of the successful issue of a paper currency, and our experiment has been too short and dubious to prove its suitableness as a permanent regulation."
JUNE 11, 1832: A bill to renew the charter of the Bank of the United States is submitted by Congress.
JULY 3 1832: The Bank bill is approved.
OCTOBER 1832: The Anti-Masonic party backs Andrew Jackson, and he is re-elected.
JUNE 1, 1833: The Secretary of Treasury refuses to follow the order of President Jackson to distribute the Bank of United States funds into State banks.
SEPTEMBER 18, 1833: President Jackson reads to his cabinet a paper drafted by the Attorney General as to the reasons why the federal deposits should be removed from the Bank of the United States.
DECEMBER 26, 1833: Senator Henry Clay offers two resolutions of censure against President Jackson for his plan to remove deposits from the Bank of the United States.
MARCH 17, 1834: Representative Gillet, a member of the Banking Select Committee, concurred in the expediency of increasing the circulation of gold coin, arguing that, "under the paper system, banks have broken, and on whom did the loss most severely fall? Upon the poor, who understood little of the condition and credit of banks. The wealthy usually foresaw the evil and protected themselves."
MARCH 28, 1834: The Senate approves the criticizing of President Jackson.
APRIL 4, 1834: The House passes four resolutions sustaining the bank policy of the Jackson administration.
APRIL 15, 1834: President Jackson makes a formal protest to the Senate concerning its resolution of censure.
MAY 7, 1834: The Senate refuses to enter President Jackson's protest in its journals.
DECEMBER 1, 1834: President Jackson declares that the national debt will be paid off JANUARY 1, 1835.
JANUARY 30, 1835: There is an attempt to assassinate President Jackson.
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APRIL 14, 1865: A short time after President Lincoln orders the Lincoln greenbacks to be printed; which would deprive the banks from charging interest on the money they would have printed, President Lincoln was assassinated by John Wilkes Booth. It's been proven this was a conspiracy because of the other four men who were involved in the assassination, and it has also been established that these men were on the payroll of the Rothschild's.
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1963: Six days prior to President John F. Kennedy being assassinated, he ordered the Treasury to print United States Notes to be used as legal tender, a limited amount were printed before his untimely death. This action would have put the federal reserve out of business because they would no longer be able to collect interest on the money they would have printed. This would have eventually removed the financial and political control the international bankers had over this country. Ten days prior to his assassination President Kennedy said "The high office of President has been used to foment a plot to destroy the American's freedom, and before I leave office I must inform the citizen of his plight."
NOVEMBER 22, 1963: President John F. Kennedy is assassinated. One of the first acts President Johnson orders is the reversal of the order President Kennedy had made, which had allowed the printing of United States Notes without interest. Was President Kennedy assassinated for the same reasons as President Lincoln?
NOVEMBER 22, 1963: President John F. Kennedy is assassinated. One of the first acts President Johnson orders is the reversal of the order President Kennedy had made, which had allowed the printing of United States Notes without interest. Was President Kennedy assassinated for the same reasons as President Lincoln?
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During the American Civil War, J. P. Morgan bought 5000 defective rifles from an army arsenal for $3.50 each and sold them to a general for $22 each. The defects in the rifles caused them to shoot off the thumbs of soldiers who used them. Morgan himself avoided military service by paying $300 for a substitute.
A class act to be sure.
A class act to be sure.
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Testosterone boy said:
sounds like a smart man, preserved his life.
in your eyes is a man only able to prove his worth thru war and violence?
in times of usa war is it really a smart idea to send the nation's wealthiest and most properous off to die?
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"PS. The links on your home page are not working"
A discouraging morning email. My web sites links went down overnight.
A discouraging morning email. My web sites links went down overnight.
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Christ they're pretty much all Jews. You'd think some of them would at least change their names, like Lev Bronstein (Leon Trotsky) did. Of course, that would be too suspicious to get away with these days. I think the only original investor who wasn't Jewish was Rockefeller.
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It's not surprising the banking industry is dominated by Jews, money lending was one of the few professions open to them in Europe. No self-respecting Christian would be a banker.Charging interest was forbidden and made illegal by the Christian church as immoral. Jews could not by Jewish law charge interest to other Jews but that was not the case when making a loan to gentiles. My high school history teacher did his masters thesis on the subject.hanselthecaretaker said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_banking
"Jews were ostracized from most professions by local rulers, the Church and the guilds, were pushed into marginal occupations considered socially inferior, such as tax and rent collecting and moneylending, while the provision of financial services increasingly demanded by the expansion of European trade and commerce."
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"OH! That's right....good call Dick, thanks.
Oh hey I could use an umbrella like that German nanny what's her name....Julie Poppins."
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...While consciously damaging the lives of plenty of others. If he was truly smart he would've found a better way to preserve his life than through swindling.
javaguru said:
How did they even find such headcases?
Entertaining, but ultimately just more propaganda. Take out the swearing and it could fit right in with Olbermann's Countdown, The Daily Show, O'Reilly Factor, Fox News, etc.
javaguru
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Has any mainstream journalist seriously investigated the 9/11 conspiracy theory and found it credible? That's a serious question because I've never followed the conspiracy theorists.hanselthecaretaker said:
Honestly, I can't see how a conspiracy of that magnitude could be pulled off. The Republicans couldn't pull off or cover up a hotel break in.
javaguru said:
They've gone off the deep end. That's the problem, most of them get too caught up in it and cross the line.
If anything, our government could arguably be indirectly responsible as a result of unjust political practices. Could you imagine the implications if they were discovered to be directly involved? It's almost an unimaginable scenario.
javaguru
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I can see arguments of incompetence and our Middle East policies being relevant. I watched an interview with a former Govt official claiming Sudan offered up Bin Laden to Clinton and their offer being refused. However, the implication of conspiracy theorists is the government was directly/indirectly involved or ignored warning of the attacks to further a political agenda. If that were the case then why not manufacture WMD and plans for their use against the US in Iraq to ensure the war would be supported, that seems much simpler than organizing a conspiracy on the level of 9/11.hanselthecaretaker said:
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Gambino
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hanselthecaretaker said:
don't you think that some people can better serve a war effort by not going?
like henry ford for example
or the farmer who got a farm deferment
would bill gates better serve a war effort by being in the infantry, or staying home and running his multi-billion dollar company?
not fair but how it is
Gambino said:
Of course but that has nothing to do with J.P. Morgan selling defective rifles to the people who are going to war. If that's the type of person he is then perhaps he would have been better of joining them.
