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Is there a way to get someone's SS#?
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Werd
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I'll just go down to SS office (have to get copies of the kids' cards) and play wifey and see if they give it to me. If not, then I can give our old accountant a ringey-dingey. No one can believe what an absolute scumbag my ex has been to us. The time to "be nice" is waaaaaaaaay over due. Now the motherfucker is going to have to pay some major dues.... but BIGTIME. 
I wish I could be there when he tries to 'splain away how all of his kids refused to live with him any longer. Bastard went and bought an expensive computer game for the oldest but refuses to buy the younger ones winter coats. His exact words, "If your mother wants you so badly, then let HER buy them for you."
I wish I could be there when he tries to 'splain away how all of his kids refused to live with him any longer. Bastard went and bought an expensive computer game for the oldest but refuses to buy the younger ones winter coats. His exact words, "If your mother wants you so badly, then let HER buy them for you."
Werd said:I'll just go down to SS office (have to get copies of the kids' cards) and play wifey and see if they give it to me. If not, then I can give our old accountant a ringey-dingey. No one can believe what an absolute scumbag my ex has been to us. The time to "be nice" is waaaaaaaaay over due. Now the motherfucker is going to have to pay some major dues.... but BIGTIME.
I wish I could be there when he tries to 'splain away how all of his kids refused to live with him any longer. Bastard went and bought an expensive computer game for the oldest but refuses to buy the younger ones winter coats. His exact words, "If your mother wants you so badly, then let HER buy them for you."
Do you have any court documents from your divorce? That's how I got my ex's SS.
I'm not sure Werd, but I would have imagined they would be somewhere in the original marriage documents or divorce decree. You might wish to check the local courthouse wherever either occured.
Frankly I'd be shocked if the attorney who handled that for you didnt himself have that on file.
Frankly I'd be shocked if the attorney who handled that for you didnt himself have that on file.
Werd said:
There are tons of websites that can get you that information.
http://www.freeality.com/netdetectiv.htm
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Werd
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The last thing I needed to be dragging around w/me was ppwrk. LOL
It's all good. It isn't like the dude is MIA. I have his address and I let him visit w/the kids. Stoopid bastard. Has wasted so much of the kids' money on fucking lawyers just to try and keep them from me. Now there is no doubt what his intentions were all along. Could you imagine telling your kid "No, I wont buy you a winter coat. If your mother wants to take care of you so damned bad, let HER buy it for you?"
Yea, he is winnig the father of the year award fer sure.
It's all good. It isn't like the dude is MIA. I have his address and I let him visit w/the kids. Stoopid bastard. Has wasted so much of the kids' money on fucking lawyers just to try and keep them from me. Now there is no doubt what his intentions were all along. Could you imagine telling your kid "No, I wont buy you a winter coat. If your mother wants to take care of you so damned bad, let HER buy it for you?"
Yea, he is winnig the father of the year award fer sure.
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Werd said:I'll just go down to SS office (have to get copies of the kids' cards) and play wifey and see if they give it to me. If not, then I can give our old accountant a ringey-dingey. No one can believe what an absolute scumbag my ex has been to us. The time to "be nice" is waaaaaaaaay over due. Now the motherfucker is going to have to pay some major dues.... but BIGTIME.
You role up in the SS office and LIE about being his wife (you are legally divorced right?) you will go to jail, and guess who will have your children? Daddy. Sound like a good idea now? Christ Werd... think this stuff through.
Fast Twitch Fiber
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Why on Earth would someone bring this up on a chat board?
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Oh by the way what you just proposed to to is a federal felony. That means you do time in a federal prison... no early parol for good behavior. It falls under identity theft, and the FBI will be doing the investigation.
Smurfet, I would recomend you never use your ex's ss# for anything, and just forget that you know it.
Smurfet, I would recomend you never use your ex's ss# for anything, and just forget that you know it.
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DIVISION said:BBF......settle down, bro.
She's gonna do what she wants to do anyway. She's an adult, fuck.....she's older than both of us. Let her make her own decisions.
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I understand that, but she needs to know what will happen so she can make an educated choice. Werd, you will do 5-10 in a federal pen, and will loose your children, however he is right... its your decision. Personally I think its worth it just to see the look on his face when he finds out you have his ss#.
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MAX 300 said:
You don't read my anabolic and diet forum threads.
When BBF needs to be serious he is. The rest of the time life is just a joke. 
Well I think for $19 or something, someplace like www.infospace.com will get it. Not sure though.
Of course you can pretend to be a prospective employer and call his current job and ask questions about him, job title, how long on the job, ss# for verification purposes.
Of course you can pretend to be a prospective employer and call his current job and ask questions about him, job title, how long on the job, ss# for verification purposes.
sconoscuito
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s0 you cant buy them a coat?
sconoscuito
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do they get proper nutrition?
sconoscuito
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what about socks?
Razorguns
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I personally depise SSN being used for everything these days. It was designed for retirement purpsoes, and the entire corporate america landscape decided to adopt it for their own purposes. The SSN should get royalties from businesses across the US.
There are ways to get it. But it's kinda tought noawdays, due to major rampant identity and credit card theft -- they're pretty stickler on giving it out. None of the credit agencies will do it, and the SSA sure as heck won't do it.
You'll probqably have to hire a P.I. or some website to give it a shot (although i think most of those sites are scams).
There are ways to get it. But it's kinda tought noawdays, due to major rampant identity and credit card theft -- they're pretty stickler on giving it out. None of the credit agencies will do it, and the SSA sure as heck won't do it.
You'll probqably have to hire a P.I. or some website to give it a shot (although i think most of those sites are scams).
Fast Twitch Fiber
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Ohh... the drama of a "Mother in a Bathing Suit."
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I still don't get it... why do you need anything other than information you can legally obtain and use to take to a judge to nail him for child support? If you use his ss# for anything without his permission, or steal it fradulantly you are going to the federal pen, and he will probably sue you for what little money you have, while you are in prison. This is the most assinign thing I have ever heard. Getting revenge on an ex is one thing, but doing something that will give this person an advantage and only get you fucked in the ass (such as anything involving someone else's ss#...my sister's ex husband tried this shit and she got 18 counts of a federal felony pressed on his ass and sued the hell out of him, and used it as additional leverage to help revoke his parental rights) is just rediculously stupid. Why is everyone giving advice on this? Unless you people actually do want to get ride of Werd.... wait...nevermind I see everyone on the thread's plan... you guys are fucking dicks.
Werd
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LOL BBF darlin' I have not now nor have I EVER committed any crime worse than perhaps parking overtime at a parking meter. heheheheheheee And for that I paid dearly! Now I ALWAYS have spare change.
I was only asking if there was a simple way of obtaining my ex's SS# as the childsupport enforcement office asked if I had record of it. For heaven's sake - I was legally married to that loser for over a decade. Dont ya think that perhaps in that time we filed at least one JOINT income tax return? I just called our accountant and asked for a duplicate copy of the last return we filed JOINTLY. Simple-shmimple... done deal.
I am not conspiring to do anything illegal. Not supporting several small children IS illegal and the motherfucker isn't going to get away with it. He has already cost our kids OVER 165K... I wonder what tune he will be singing when childsupport comes after his ass for lying on his income? I hate to see what the IRS will say about not only a deadbeat motherfucker but an income tax evader as well.
About buying my kids coats.
I make 7$ p/hr working parttime. My rent is close to 1K per month. The answer is NO, I can NOT afford to buy my kid a coat at this time as I paid my childsupport UP FRONT last year. I also gave up my half of a lucrative business and LIFETIME alimony - all of which I was legally entitled to as I trusted that loser motherfucker to care for our kids. Luckily, I have family that will help out as they have from the beginning of this nightmare. They were there in the beginning, have supported us throughout and will continue to help out any way they can.
When I danced to support us, I was hung out to dry for being a whore.
Now that I have a "legit job" I can't support us, but now I should be afraid of going to jail because I am furnishing a government agency with my ex's social security number? PS - I went down to SS and asked if they could provide me with my ex's number. They said, "No." I said, "Thanks anyway."
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Where ON EARTH did anyone get any sort of dramatic ideas about federal crimes?
I was only asking if there was a simple way of obtaining my ex's SS# as the childsupport enforcement office asked if I had record of it. For heaven's sake - I was legally married to that loser for over a decade. Dont ya think that perhaps in that time we filed at least one JOINT income tax return? I just called our accountant and asked for a duplicate copy of the last return we filed JOINTLY. Simple-shmimple... done deal.
I am not conspiring to do anything illegal. Not supporting several small children IS illegal and the motherfucker isn't going to get away with it. He has already cost our kids OVER 165K... I wonder what tune he will be singing when childsupport comes after his ass for lying on his income? I hate to see what the IRS will say about not only a deadbeat motherfucker but an income tax evader as well.
About buying my kids coats.
I make 7$ p/hr working parttime. My rent is close to 1K per month. The answer is NO, I can NOT afford to buy my kid a coat at this time as I paid my childsupport UP FRONT last year. I also gave up my half of a lucrative business and LIFETIME alimony - all of which I was legally entitled to as I trusted that loser motherfucker to care for our kids. Luckily, I have family that will help out as they have from the beginning of this nightmare. They were there in the beginning, have supported us throughout and will continue to help out any way they can.
When I danced to support us, I was hung out to dry for being a whore.
Now that I have a "legit job" I can't support us, but now I should be afraid of going to jail because I am furnishing a government agency with my ex's social security number? PS - I went down to SS and asked if they could provide me with my ex's number. They said, "No." I said, "Thanks anyway."
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Where ON EARTH did anyone get any sort of dramatic ideas about federal crimes?
www.searchamerica.com
anything on anyone. I did a demo of this for an EF member once. He remembers, I am sure
anything on anyone. I did a demo of this for an EF member once. He remembers, I am sure
DaDawg's L'il Sis
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Call public records and request a copy of your marriage lisence. All you need to do is provide YOUR SS# and for a fee they'll make you a copy. His SS# will be on the lisence.
sconoscuito
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maybe you should share custody?
DaDawg's L'il Sis
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There's nothing illegal about her having his SS#. It's what she does with it that could be. I've was separated from my husband for 6 years before I sought a divorce. Being unable to contact him I still needed his SS# to file. Nothing wrong with looking at your own marriage lisence. It's printed on each and every one in the US.HS Lifter said:
Werd
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I have the marriage cert and it doesn't have the SS# on it, but as I said, the copy of the last joint tax return we filed does. The folks at childsupport enforcement now have it, along with all his other info.
As for sharing custody - AINT GONNA HAPPEN. Motherfucker had his chance. A court took custody from him and I should have listen to the court then. He has made our lives a living hell since and I am not about to repeat my mistakes from the past.
I FLAT OUT TRUSTED AND GAVE HIM CUSTODY because I couldn't take what his constant legal barrages were doing to the kids. I gave that motherfucker EVERYTHING - EVERYTHING and still it wasn't enough for him. I came back in 3 days time when I found out that he was abusing and neglecting my kids. Then that motherfucker continued the circus by making all sorts of bullshit haneous allegations about me - jacked the legal bills up another 30/40K dragged the kids through more hell until THEY ALL STOOD UP AND SAID - YOU ARE A LIAR DADDY - WE WANT TO LIVE WITH OUR MOMMY. Yea, real stand up father and man needing to use the police to "enforce" his custodial rights by dragging crying kids away from their mother and the only family that ever cared about them. Finally the kids locked themselves in a room and stole his cell and called me crying, "Mommy, daddy said that if we dont listen to him he will call the police and they will take us to a foster home... Dont worry though, we are safe because we locked ourselves in a room. They cant take us away, please come to get us mommy."
Yea... I am at work at my bullshit job making 7$ p/hr while he is in a 400K house, w/built in pool driving around in a brand new SUV, has a brand new motorcycle in storage was paying (and fucking) some bimbo 12$ p/hr to yell at my kids but I should "share" custody?
Ummmmmmm NOT.
That motherfucker made his bed. He has dragged us through hell by manipulating the laws that were designed to protect the parental rights of GOOD FATHERS costing my kids over 165K.... but I should "share custody".
I dont think so.
When I had a job that everyone looked down on me for but still paid our bills WITHOUT childsupport or alimony or any income from OUR business I was a neglectful, drug-abusing, alcoholic whore.... *wink*
Now I will be making sub $600 p/month... but my kids have EVERYTHING they need. Clean clothes, a safe place to live and all the good food they need. My family has been helping us from the beginning and they will be there in the end.
That bastard made his bed and now he will lie in it ALONE. I didn't have to break the law or manipulate anyone to do it. No "good old boys" to break his legs... Didn't have to pay some lawyer with no conscious gobs of money to lie for me in court... Didn't have to fill my kids' heads with all sorts of lies about what their father is like.
We will be ok...
Now I will get some health benefits so I can at least get my scripts filled and maybe go back to the doc. And I will take care of us until my work is recognized...
As for sharing custody - AINT GONNA HAPPEN. Motherfucker had his chance. A court took custody from him and I should have listen to the court then. He has made our lives a living hell since and I am not about to repeat my mistakes from the past.
I FLAT OUT TRUSTED AND GAVE HIM CUSTODY because I couldn't take what his constant legal barrages were doing to the kids. I gave that motherfucker EVERYTHING - EVERYTHING and still it wasn't enough for him. I came back in 3 days time when I found out that he was abusing and neglecting my kids. Then that motherfucker continued the circus by making all sorts of bullshit haneous allegations about me - jacked the legal bills up another 30/40K dragged the kids through more hell until THEY ALL STOOD UP AND SAID - YOU ARE A LIAR DADDY - WE WANT TO LIVE WITH OUR MOMMY. Yea, real stand up father and man needing to use the police to "enforce" his custodial rights by dragging crying kids away from their mother and the only family that ever cared about them. Finally the kids locked themselves in a room and stole his cell and called me crying, "Mommy, daddy said that if we dont listen to him he will call the police and they will take us to a foster home... Dont worry though, we are safe because we locked ourselves in a room. They cant take us away, please come to get us mommy."
Yea... I am at work at my bullshit job making 7$ p/hr while he is in a 400K house, w/built in pool driving around in a brand new SUV, has a brand new motorcycle in storage was paying (and fucking) some bimbo 12$ p/hr to yell at my kids but I should "share" custody?
Ummmmmmm NOT.
That motherfucker made his bed. He has dragged us through hell by manipulating the laws that were designed to protect the parental rights of GOOD FATHERS costing my kids over 165K.... but I should "share custody".
I dont think so.
When I had a job that everyone looked down on me for but still paid our bills WITHOUT childsupport or alimony or any income from OUR business I was a neglectful, drug-abusing, alcoholic whore.... *wink*
Now I will be making sub $600 p/month... but my kids have EVERYTHING they need. Clean clothes, a safe place to live and all the good food they need. My family has been helping us from the beginning and they will be there in the end.
That bastard made his bed and now he will lie in it ALONE. I didn't have to break the law or manipulate anyone to do it. No "good old boys" to break his legs... Didn't have to pay some lawyer with no conscious gobs of money to lie for me in court... Didn't have to fill my kids' heads with all sorts of lies about what their father is like.
We will be ok...
Now I will get some health benefits so I can at least get my scripts filled and maybe go back to the doc. And I will take care of us until my work is recognized...
Fast Twitch Fiber
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someone has serious issues
Werd
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Fast Twitch Fiber said:
It must really suck to be ignored by beautiful women in your real life, but to have them dismiss you on the web, for goodness sakes, must be really REALLY awful. So glad to see that you are getting the help u deserve.
Dont worry though, I am a woman of my word.... YOUR SECRET is safe w/me.
sconoscuito
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I doubt anyones gonna believe that
Werd
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Razorguns said:
No offense taken.
I am anything BUT a hothead.
I got a final order of protection in the midst of any ugly divorce. They dont give those out easily AT ALL, matter of fact, they are NEAR IMPOSSIBLE to acquire in such situations, especially with NO PROOF WHATSOEVER - just his word against mine. THE JUDGE took custody from him... I did NOT request it. One would think he must have done some pretty awful shit, no?
I was too fucked up to understand the gravity of this sitch.
He had them FULL TIME (nearly completely cut the kids off from me and my family) for SIX MONTHS. When I returned and learned what was REALLY going on, he came at me with both barrells legally. The courts had no choice but to "side with him" but were "fair" with me. My contact with the children over the next 6 months was EXTREMELY LIMITED.
HE HAD ALL THE MONEY - I DONT HAVE SQUAT.
Yet ALL THE KIDS stood up to the police, school administrators AND psychologists and said, "I WANT TO LIVE WITH MY MOMMY." He had to have them physically removed by police to "enforce his custodial rights" SEVERAL TIMES.
If he was doing SUCH a great job.... how do you explain THESE FACTS?!
I never ever raise my voice... nor do I yell and scream. I dont throw things. I have a smile on my face 99% of the time and am extremely congenial and pleasant to everyone. NO ONE can believe that I haven't gone off the deep and and 86'd this motherfucker for all he has done to the kids.
But please, do explain how it "could be" that all the kids (all old enough to know better - ie - who is REALLY treating them like shit and who is "shit-talking") could have been THAT DEFIANT to so many authority figures if HE was soooooooooo great and I was a neglectful, drinking, drug addict whore that abandons them to fuck all sorts of men (as he has alleged for nearly 4 years)?.... especially when I dont have two nickels to rub together?
Razorguns
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You need a good lawyer. That's all i gotta say. Unfortunately in teh courtroom, he who shouts the loudest, and makes the most blanketed accusations and pure biased hearsay doesn't necessarily win. Most judges look right past the obvious shit-talkin'.
Your lawyer needs to organize points and provide proof of everything.
Your lawyer needs to organize points and provide proof of everything.
Werd
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Razorguns said:
I wont diagree with you there. Check and double check on everything.
The fact remains that I have custody by default it is just that the bastard wont sign a formal agreement and started lying about his income and expenses right out of the gate.
I will NEVER recoup what I gave up in the divorce settlement. I get NOTHING for investing 13 years of my life as dutiful wife and mother.... that is nothing FINANCIALLY - I have my kids and thats all I ever cared about to begin with, but now I will make sure that THEY get what THEY are entitled to - PERIOD.
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Yep, I would love to hear both sides of this story. Nothing personal against you Werd, its just due to your own personal biases (or even details you do not know about on his part) we may not be getting all the facts here. Generally in this sort of thing, when you hear both sides of the story, all perspectives of the parties involved, a more truthful picture can be painted.
Werd
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Nothing personal taken...
This isn't about "his side" or "my side". There is only ONE SIDE = the side of the children involved and they have made it abundantly clear what THEY want.
THEY WANT TO LIVE WITH ME EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO TV, COMPUTER, FANCY ANYTHING...
HE HAS A 44K HOUSE, BUILT IN POOL, MORE MONEY THAN GOD (OR AT LEAST ENOUGH FOR GOBS OF ATTORNEYS).
The children only want someone to listen to THEM... You have no idea what it did to me to watch my little kids defiantly stand up to BIG uniformed police, school administrators, shrinks, etc (I raised my kids to be VERY respectful of authority but I also told them to go with their gut - that regardless of WHO it was that was telling them to do something if that little voice inside told them to be defiant - I would back them 100% no questions asked.). I couldn't even hold their hand or put my arm around them as it could have been construed as an act of defiance on my part. My one little kid nearly turned my arm purple they squeezed it so hard not wanting to let go. The cops had to trick them into leaving me. I told them it was ok, that I knew they loved me and the adults would figure this mess out. I told them to get dressed and go to school, that we would figure this out in the court.
THEY ALL SAID NO!
It wasn't that they didn't trust me. But a combination of watching their father lie and my poor legal representation seeing me helplessly raked over the coals for the last near 4 years has made them angry and impatient. They have had enough so they have stood up.
If I was even to *attempt* to keep them from their father believe you me, there is not a room that could hold them, as their father could neither find one to hold them and keep them from me.
Remember - HE has been the sole custodial parent for OVER ONE YEAR - almost NO CONTACT from me for over 6 months and EXTREMELY limited, even supervised contact for several more.
After all that time ow on earth could I have manipulated SEVERAL kids with little or no contact if their father was doing SUCH a good job? Wont go over real well in court. I was declared FIT in the beginning of summer and the judge wanted to reunite us THEN - BUT I wasnt able to get my own apartment until about 2 weeks after we went to court for that round and could neither pay my half-ass lawyer to return to enforce THAT order.
No "normalcy" was restored till the kids stood up and said, "We are mad as hell and aren't going to take it any more." And believe you me, it isn't easy parenting several angry kids, but at least now they have a shot at coming out of all this mess ok. <---THAT was and always will be my main priority and not my asshole ex. Whereas all he ever cared about was using the kids to fuck with me for finally growing a set and kicking his abusive ass to the curb.
This isn't about "his side" or "my side". There is only ONE SIDE = the side of the children involved and they have made it abundantly clear what THEY want.
THEY WANT TO LIVE WITH ME EVEN THOUGH I HAVE NO TV, COMPUTER, FANCY ANYTHING...
HE HAS A 44K HOUSE, BUILT IN POOL, MORE MONEY THAN GOD (OR AT LEAST ENOUGH FOR GOBS OF ATTORNEYS).
The children only want someone to listen to THEM... You have no idea what it did to me to watch my little kids defiantly stand up to BIG uniformed police, school administrators, shrinks, etc (I raised my kids to be VERY respectful of authority but I also told them to go with their gut - that regardless of WHO it was that was telling them to do something if that little voice inside told them to be defiant - I would back them 100% no questions asked.). I couldn't even hold their hand or put my arm around them as it could have been construed as an act of defiance on my part. My one little kid nearly turned my arm purple they squeezed it so hard not wanting to let go. The cops had to trick them into leaving me. I told them it was ok, that I knew they loved me and the adults would figure this mess out. I told them to get dressed and go to school, that we would figure this out in the court.
THEY ALL SAID NO!
It wasn't that they didn't trust me. But a combination of watching their father lie and my poor legal representation seeing me helplessly raked over the coals for the last near 4 years has made them angry and impatient. They have had enough so they have stood up.
If I was even to *attempt* to keep them from their father believe you me, there is not a room that could hold them, as their father could neither find one to hold them and keep them from me.
Remember - HE has been the sole custodial parent for OVER ONE YEAR - almost NO CONTACT from me for over 6 months and EXTREMELY limited, even supervised contact for several more.
After all that time ow on earth could I have manipulated SEVERAL kids with little or no contact if their father was doing SUCH a good job? Wont go over real well in court. I was declared FIT in the beginning of summer and the judge wanted to reunite us THEN - BUT I wasnt able to get my own apartment until about 2 weeks after we went to court for that round and could neither pay my half-ass lawyer to return to enforce THAT order.
No "normalcy" was restored till the kids stood up and said, "We are mad as hell and aren't going to take it any more." And believe you me, it isn't easy parenting several angry kids, but at least now they have a shot at coming out of all this mess ok. <---THAT was and always will be my main priority and not my asshole ex. Whereas all he ever cared about was using the kids to fuck with me for finally growing a set and kicking his abusive ass to the curb.
Fast Twitch Fiber
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Werd said:
You post a lot on the internet for someone without a computer.
Werd
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Fast Twitch Fiber said:
You post-stalking me there "BIG" guy? LOL Please define "a lot".
OO looky, you managed to noticed by a purty girl for like a second and a half. Just remember not to tell any others what lies beneath and you'll be good to go for like another second er two. Perhaps even long enough for them to actually tell you the time of day.
*NARF*
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