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pitstone

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I'm assuming that 1-ad will supress my natural test levels? should i start taking tribullis while I'm on my cycle of 1-ad as well as after my cycle, or should I just wait to take it post cycle.

PS. how much tribullis should I take
 
Hey pitstone I am not pa1ad but I just got done cycling off 1AD with tribulus and everything seems back to normal. Just follow the instruction on the bottle for the tribulus and start about the same time you finish the 1ad and you'll be fine I am sure.
 
Yeah tripleJ I'll do that, but how long are you planning in staYing on the Tribulus for? and also did you take the Tribulus during or just at the end of your cycle?
 
pitstone said:
I'm assuming that 1-ad will supress my natural test levels? should i start taking tribullis while I'm on my cycle of 1-ad as well as after my cycle, or should I just wait to take it post cycle.

PS. how much tribullis should I take


What evidence do you have that tribulus affects testosterone levels? The only peer reviewed published studies done on the stuff say otherwise. Wake up to reality
 
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pa1ad said:



What evidence do you have that tribulus affects testosterone levels? The only peer reviewed published studies done on the stuff say otherwise. Wake up to reality

No evidence other than what suppliment companies say.

Does 1-ad suppress natural Test levels? and what if any kind of supp's (other than HCG or clomid) can I take to get my test levels back up?
 
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pitstone said:


No evidence other than what suppliment companies say.

Does 1-ad suppress natural Test levels? and what if any kind of supp's (other than HCG or clomid) can I take to get my test levels back up?


It suppresses, but not severely.

There are no supplement remedies for this. Levels bounce back in a few weeks. Just eat well and train smart in the interim. You probably will not even notice that your levels are suppressed
 
PA what can I take to bring back test levels? If Tribulus wont work will Maca? I've heard some say it helps, any ideas?

thanks
 
There is some dude on this board who got his test levels measured, went on a tribulus cycle, and then got his test levels measured again. Guess what, according to the results, his test levels jumped significantly (they were low to start with). I don't have time to review all the public databanks of research but testimonies seem to indicate that it helps some people while others it does nothing. I've got a feeling if you are low on T, then it may normalize things - something of an adaptogen like effect. Many studies are BS anyway, I say it is cheap enough to just give it a shot and see what you think. One bottle is plenty then you should be back on track or at least get a sense if it does anything for you or not. Spellwin sells it and I think may have references to research, just do your own homework and/or believe what you want. This is not an area where double-blind research studies are likely to be found on healthy young weightlifters coming off 1AD or other cycles.

My one experience was that 1AD seemed barely to have any type of inhibition effect so you will probably be fine just going cold turkey, but in my case I just wanted to try to help things along. I'm going to have my levels tested in another week or so and wanted to have some basis of comparison to my last test, naturally I am trying to get my T levels in the high normal range. FWIW, I am working with a doctor and he doesn't seem to think much of Tribulus either, so we'll just see how things turn out. It just seems to me I do feel something from it, at least initially.
 
There is no legitimate research showing tribulus to raise testosterone levels.

There is research showing it to cause relaxation of the corpus cavernosum. This would increase erectile function. The researches speculated that it was due to increases in nitric oxide (same mechanism as Viagra).

Interestingly, while nitric oxide increases LH (which would increase libido), it actually has an overall negative effect on testosterone due to suppression at the testicular level.

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