WOuld it be possible to use 10mg dbol while on PCT..?

[MrRTTB]

I would like to hear this. I have big problöems comming off holding on to the muscles I have. SOme said they used 10mg dbol WITH their PCT and got levels back to normal, that is dbol during the hole pct and after. feedback?

 

[Quadsweep]

I would like to hear this. I have big problöems comming off holding on to the muscles I have. SOme said they used 10mg dbol WITH their PCT and got levels back to normal, that is dbol during the hole pct and after. feedback?

I hate bridging. maybe shorter on/off periods would be better for you.

Quad

 

[Nucman]

I don't think you'll fully recover that way. Like Quadsweep said it's really a bridge. On is on, and off is off.

 

[kbrkbr]

10mg ED of dbol keeps me shut down. I never fully recover while on ANYTHING.

 

[DMI]

I've done it myself and I think I recovered nicely, though I had no bloodwork done. I believe needlesize also did that and recovered 90% in his opinion, so bump for needlesize, I think I remember reading that.

 

[Ulter]

Most men will recover fine on 10mg/day. But it has to be taken upon rising. NO LATER.
Your recovery may take longer however. If you typically recover in 4 weeks it may take 8 or 10.

 

[DMI]

Yes, I forgot to mention it must be taken upon rising.

 

[macdaddy-1]

I would like to hear this. I have big problöems comming off holding on to the muscles I have. SOme said they used 10mg dbol WITH their PCT and got levels back to normal, that is dbol during the hole pct and after. feedback?

i wouldnt recommend it.even 5 mg has a major effect on recovery.I read a good piece on this recently,ill see if i can track it down and post it up for ya

 

[Ulter]

This is in the Bjaarki Library at Anabolic Fitness. On page 2 Table 3 it shows that Test, LH and FSH were nearly the same in both those that took dbol and those who didn't. Which would means that it wouldn't affect your recovery. But we know from experience over the years that the small decrease does translate into a longer recovery period for most.

http://www.anabolicfitness.net/library/Morning D-Bol Study.pdf

 

[Quadsweep]

This is in the Bjaarki Library at Anabolic Fitness. On page 2 Table 3 it shows that Test, LH and FSH were nearly the same in both those that took dbol and those who didn't. Which would means that it wouldn't affect your recovery. But we know from experience over the years that the small decrease does translate into a longer recovery period for most.

I do not feel it’s just about the hormone axis normalizing. I believe in receptor down regulation or else I would consistently be able to use 250mg sust a week for eight weeks and gain 27# every time I did it like my first cycle. I then would not have to use 2000mgs a week to make a 10# gain in 16 weeks! Its just the facts. In is not infinite but very finite in actuality. So basically ...when off...be off!

Quad

 

[casualbb]

Quad... receptors actually UPregulate in the short-term. The reason your first cycle was so much more effective is you had less muscle before you started. Maximum muscle support is correlated to how much test you have in your system. When a guy is as big as you, a beginner's cycle would only serve to maintain his already super-natural amount of muscle.

If you starved down to the amount of muscle you had when you started and redid your first cycle it would probably be just as effective as it was the first time.

I'm not sure about bridging... I've seen evidence that even miniscule doses shut people down pretty thoroughly. Better just use HCG well. But then again if there's a control vs. bridge group study that shows equal recovery, by all means post up.

 

[Quadsweep]

Quad... receptors actually UPregulate in the short-term. The reason your first cycle was so much more effective is you had less muscle before you started. Maximum muscle support is correlated to how much test you have in your system. When a guy is as big as you, a beginner's cycle would only serve to maintain his already super-natural amount of muscle.

If you starved down to the amount of muscle you had when you started and redid your first cycle it would probably be just as effective as it was the first time.

I'm not sure about bridging... I've seen evidence that even miniscule doses shut people down pretty thoroughly. Better just use HCG well. But then again if there's a control vs. bridge group study that shows equal recovery, by all means post up.

Good post! but as we go cycles get longer and then there is down regulation. I do not think that weight in lean mass is an end all be all factor but it does play a part for sure...thats how its dosed in animals. There are many factors including receptor affinity which is different per individule.

Quad

 

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I agree with not bridging. But if I were to bridge, I'd use anavar. It is good for preserving muscle and doesn't shut you down as hard as dbol.

 

[Barbarian04]

forget the anavar and d bol, if your advanced enof look into some insulin if your mature enof to know/combat death, or and maybe some clenbuteral/clomid/nolva/creatine stack is your best bet..stay off of any steroid dureing PCT..it will only hurt you..also try HCG 500iu 2 times a week 2 weeks before you start PCT it will give you a boost and make PCT recovery easyer..hope this helps.