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What exactly causes Tren cough?

I just asked my wife , she sometimes gives me the injects however she will not give me a delt shot. lol She's a Nurse Anesthetists to. lolololol

i don't get why? delts are the easiest injection of all.. i always request when i get b12 shots at my acupuncturist they go into the delts.. painfree.

i love pecs the most though.. you literally can grab the pec with one hand and inject with the other right in front of your eyes.. no mirrors necessary and little pain.
 
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you should see my softball team (Denver Jewish Men's League)--when I broke my hand diving for a ball--- we had a podiatrist, dentist, pediatrician, chiropractor (it was broken in two place no amount of manipulation would have helped), and...not kidding, a hand surgeon...

yeah man its true.. and in my leb culture its not acceptable to fail at anything. I know Asian culture is even worse, thats why you see so many guys kill themselves who go to those ivy league schools. its ridiculous how much pressure parents put on kids. its silly to be honest.. and i know guys i grew up with who are now docs/lawyers who absolutely hate their jobs... laywers work like 70-80 per week with zero break.. these days you gotta work 24/7 or you will miss opportunities.
 
i don't get why? delts are the easiest injection of all.. i always request when i get b12 shots at my acupuncturist they go into the delts.. painfree.

i love pecs the most though.. you literally can grab the pec with one hand and inject with the other right in front of your eyes.. no mirrors necessary and little pain.

Never inj into pecs before but you make me wanna look into it. I agree with you about the delts not giving you the cough. Only time I've ever got it was in the glutes
 
^^^ the pecs are the only muscle I can shoot where I feel like i am in total control where i can hold the needle and pin and take my time.

i was scared the first time but said fuck it and did it and i've been doing them ever since. use ice the first time to numb the skin, that will help with your nerves. but it is a very painless injection
 
“Trenbolone Cough” differs from user to user. Some have a high bloodflow in their buttcheeks, wich sometimes increases with prolonged AAS use. You’ll notice it if you bleed very often after an injection. I.m.o. those people are more predisposed to “tren cough” There are two different coughs, the notorious hard and uncontrolable one that starts right after or during injection and a milder controlable one that is just irritating. Some people claim that they taste a chemical, kinda methanol/solvent. If you pierce a vein or inject very close to a vein the trenbolone solution migrates up into your bloodstream and, within seconds the solution hit the lungs, the lungs react like you inhaled a toxin like b.e. smoke or an irritating chemical, and they try to expel it out by coughing. The problem is this is impossible because the irritation comes from the inside and leaves the body through the lungs/mouth.

Some users claim it is possible to surpress the cough by immmidiately start to inhale-exhale small amounts of air through the mouth, like you’re hyperventilating or like women do to surpress the contractions during labour. Some also claim that the short estered acetate is more irritating then the longer estered enanthate or hydrohexacarbenzylcarbonate (parabolan) the last one also gives a kinda metallic taste in the mouth immidiatly after injection.

Personally I believe it’s the trenbolone molecule (wich differs from most steroid molecules) causes the irritation in the lungs, not the solvents like benzyl alcohol or benzyl benzoate as many believe. The solvents are present in other injectable steroids and nobody complaints about heavy coughing with those compounds.

I’ve read an interesting theory (I don't agree with it by the way) about the tren cough and the fat burning capacity wich caused Trenbolone to be nicked as “the poor mans growth hormone”:


Tren- Fat burning and "Tren cough" both from prostaglandin metabolization

It's been widely disussed of Trens fat burning properties through rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through Tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"

The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.

Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.

Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.

Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction(the main form of expulsion)
i agree this is the truth.
it is not the company its made from. tren can cause this cough from all companies or home made tren, i get the cough always! this writing is the only real one that makes absolute perfect sense! the coudh hits some people and not others , im one that it always hits, if i mix 1 cc of tren and 2 cc of another steriod and go slow ,i never get the cough, however if you mix tren ace with test prop and masterone all together watch it! the couph is vicious, a friend gavew me a dose of his mix and it was like a coughing near death feeling,its probab;y an illusion of death comeing ,because it goes away in 5 to 19 minutes but it put me on one knee! also doing tren alone more than 1 cc at a time will also put me to my kness coughing. tried many brands all the same effect. its real that for certain and more peoole get the cough than you will ever read about. personaly i mix the tren 1 cc and 2 cc of primo then im ok, other than that i simply stay away from it, its grest for some not for all of us, the gains are greatmbut chokeing is not fun. toxic? hell who the f knows??? i knew i guy that lived to be 103 yrs old smokeing and drinking everyday of his life he tld me since age 15 2 packs of lucky strikes a day and cases of beer and vodka! we used to go fishing together each week end ,he was always smokeing" and drinking,in fact i never saw him not smokeing and drinking! so how the hell do we exsplain that one? his name was gene cook senior" he was a hapy guy till the day he went to sleeop with his fishing pole next to his bed and died in peace. go figure! impossible ,i know!!! but true! take care fellas hell were all nuts, live like Accilies or die old falling apart, basically thats our choice. in the end of all our movies(life) the movie ends the same, we die, but how many of us dare to be the best that we can> and realy live? in 100 years from now it realy will not matter anyway" hell alot can be acomplished in just one day"
Live for today:" Michael hamilton of Chicago
 
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