Just look down this board today! we talked about all that! but summing it up for you as for what i took from it........dbol you will get massive gains and lose them (i am doing 30mg a day with .5 arimidex and shitloads of natural supps w/ good training/eating and intend to disprove that.....but we shall see), Anadrol is just as bad as Dbol and causes more side effects..........anavar is the best, but you won't gain as much muscle, but you'll keep most of what you gain. and you won't get the sides like dbol or abombs. so i think anavar takes the prize for all around best oral only. but its one "side effect" is its expense if you ask me.