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Originally posted by Stallion215:
Your right guys it hasnt done much. the first 2 weeks i only gained 3 pounds and put 10 pounds on my bench and 20 on my squat. i will try somethin else.

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oh my god!! aaaaarrrrgh, I am so tired of people saying that they "gained 10lbs on thier bench or 20lbs on there squat" especially in relation to a supplement, "I only... HMB sucks." or "I gained... andro rules!" gimme a break, I feel like I'm looking at a muscle-tech ad every time I hear something like that. a picture of Matt Duvall holding a container of Nitro-tech with a big old shit-eating grin. I'd probably puke if I ever looked through another Muscle Rag.

I swear it's nothing personal agaist you Stallion, just I grow very weary of statements like that

p.s. nothing personal.

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You cannot be a champion just by eating the best foods, you cannot be a champion just by training the most, and you cannot be a champion by taking the most or the best steroids and drugs. The most important attribute you need to be a champion is attitude -Franco Columbu

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Bullsh*t hype is just that and Bill Phillips did lie, HMB does not "feel like deca".

Plain leucine is just as effective in my opinion and the needed dosages to see a result (still marginal) much, much lower.

HMB is not worth the money. Not at all.

Invest in a good whey powder, some flax oil and a solid multiple vitamin and you'll get much more than from HMB.

(actually, all it does is cause a medium to severe weight loss from the hip pocket area. very effective for wallet spot-reduction)

Here's something you and I can do to 'prove' or disprove the effectiveness of a supplement:
--find a medical researcher who is willing to do a project not for peer-reviewed publication. Give this doctor 25,000 dollars to do a simple (volunteers only) research on the supplement of your choice. Then tell this man that you will give him an additional 25,000 upon completion of a positive results-based conclusion...the final money for his use as he sees fit (basically payoff money). Many of them will outright refuse on the basics of ethics. Some of them might be afraid of the legal angle. Some of them will do the research just to get more funding. That's just about it.

HMB may have passed the university study showing it to be effective for a large majority of the focus group, but there are too many real world people who have gambled and lost using this supplement.

If you know that it works for you, then I commend you and I am somewhat jealous. If you've never tried it, I'd have to say save your money until more "University studies" have backed the original one.