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Valdez

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posted December 04, 2000 02:53 AM

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DIE DIE DIE!!!!! just kidding

actually I found a really good deal on a product, better than XRX or some other B.S.
http://www.proteinfactory.com/2diol.htm

yup proteinfactory, I love those folks. check out the flax oil too, I think it's barlean's... really good prices.


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Hindustan

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posted December 04, 2000 03:35 AM

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Valdez:

Forgive my ignorance, but why is this better then XRX? Doesn't XRX have the best absorbtion rate, because its inhaled? Curious for this product do you need an estrogen blocker?


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Hot Bod

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posted December 04, 2000 11:16 AM

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Valdez,
Are you planning on trying this stuff? If you are I'm curious to hear about your results.

I had pretty good results on Paradeca stacked with Tribex 500 (Biotest). Both were pricey. I've been off both for about 10 days and today's workout I had difficulty on the bench. May or may not be related.

I know you're not big on Prohormones, so I'm curious to know if you think this one is different.


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Valdez

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posted December 04, 2000 09:01 PM

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nah I'm not gonna try it. but I am mildly interested if it works for anyone else. you see it comes in 300gram portions for $44!!! that is about 1/8th the price of every other prohormone I have seen.

as far as absorbtion. DMSO!!!!! no shit!! this is the way to do it my friends. transdermally, is better than sublingual, and oral. or inhaling. (you can buy DMSO on www.DMSO.net or in health food stores.

mix a serving with DMSO and apply to the skin, wait till it is dry. and do this in a clean, sterile area as other materials may possibly be taking into the blood-stream.

I suggest this product because I want to keep everyone on Elite Fitness "in the loop" as they have all done their best to help me.


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Blackop

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posted December 04, 2000 09:51 PM

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I hate to break it to you Valdez, but Transdermal application is not the best route for absorbtion, sublingual is because none is waisted.
-Blackop


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Blackop

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posted December 04, 2000 09:55 PM

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also, If you want to use a prohormone, I personally suggest SportsOne's diol-4 and nor-diol sublinguals. And Cycloroid is great. It's a prohormone and thermogenic in one sublingual, it makes your workout unreal.
-Blackop


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Valdez

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posted December 05, 2000 01:03 AM

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hey blackop you spelled wasted wrong.


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Hot Bod

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posted December 05, 2000 08:43 AM

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Valdez,
Where would you suggest applying this product? In the upper loin area? Or directly on the ball sack?

BTW, my belief is that sublingual is better than oral, but transdermal makes more sense to me. My understanding is that the liver absorbs much of prohormones taken when ingested orally. How much can actually be absorbed through the pores of the mouth? I don't know, but I've tried it.(sublingual)

If I decide to try it I'll keep you posted.


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Valdez

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posted December 05, 2000 02:13 PM

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NO NO NOT THE BALL SACK!!!!

oh shit, I should have wrote a disclaimer. LOL

DMSO is a skin irritant, mix about 60% DMSO with about 30% DISTILLED WATER and then dilute all of the powdered prohormones into the mixture. one of the best places to apply it would be on the inside of the elbow, between the forearm and the bicep. there is thinner, softer skin there and you will be able to "cup" it in that area for it to dry.

do a search for DMSO application in the anabolic board. there is much info there.
most commonly they use fina with DMSO so you might wanna use "fina" and "dmso" as your key words in the search.

never put DMSO on the balls, that would probably be very uncomfortable!!

I am glad someone is interested, 300 grams for 44.00 is a very good price


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Czar

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posted December 05, 2000 03:17 PM

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Actually, I have found a better price. With the protein factory stuff, there is only 350 mg of prohormones per serving, and 60 servings. Off the top of my head, I don't know what that comes out to, something like 20 grams for 44 bucks. Go to www.kilosports.com THey have much better deals on powdered prohormones. And Blakop, you are wrong. Oral administration of prohormones is not better "because none of it is wasted." When taken orally, only about 5% is used by the body. When taken transdermally, about 20% is used. The best method is to get a kit and inject.


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SANDMAN5150

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posted December 05, 2000 04:24 PM

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what do you guys think of

IMPACT 250 by Genapharm

Androtropin by Genapharm


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riskybiz007

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posted December 05, 2000 07:27 PM

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question on kilosports prohormones... their prohormones say grams and not capsules. Are they going to send me powder or in capsules??????


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Valdez

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posted December 06, 2000 02:05 AM

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kilosports is high volumne, they will send you powder... thats why they sell the capsule makers.

good site if you know you want alot of a certain substance.


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Marauder

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posted December 06, 2000 10:03 AM

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Ummmmm...okay, Most of you on this board do not know me...those on the anabolic board (at least the ones who've been around a while) do know me...I have been basically just monitoring the boards for info lately, I don't like to make posts just to see my numbers shoot up on the counter....so I now speak...One question...why in the hell would any prohormone user want to inject? I guess first one would have to ask themself the question of why do they not juice. (Is it because it's illegal? Wake up! Injecting anything without medical supervision is illegal.) Or maybe it's the side effects....Wrong again...I have juiced on many occasions and have used prohormones before, and prohormones have far mor side effects than A/A steroids...especially relative to results.

So basically my parallel for you all would be..."Do you like to buy fake weed?" I mean it's still illegal to use (like an injectable prohormone) but you do not get the benefit of the product....catch my drift? I hope I didn't confuse anybody....
I'm only speaking of injectable prohormones...if you're gonna use prohormones...just stay a puss and swallow them, don't be all trying to turn it into juice, and anyways, unless you're a dumbass, and don't have hookups, gear is hella cheaper than pro-WHORE-mones.

Very Sincerely,
Marauder out.

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Valdez

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posted December 06, 2000 07:47 PM

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hahahahahahaha!!!!
looks like the "heat" is gonna be off of me for a while.


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Hot Bod

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posted December 11, 2000 10:14 AM

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Anyone tried this yet?

Valdez, I didn't think this was too inexpensive. There are 60 servings for 44.99. It doesn't state how often you should take it. More than likely, it's twice daily. Therefore, a 30 days supply. Not too bad, but not 1/8 the cost of others.

I'm considering trying it anyway with DMSO. I'll keep you posted. Barleans Flax oil sounds like a good deal too.


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