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WarLobo

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posted February 22, 2001 12:23 AM

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You too MP5

In the market for a self-defence shot gun. Want it light and fast - money no object, but a good value is cool to. Need some suggestions. Thanks.

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forgotten219

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posted February 22, 2001 12:36 AM

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Benelli M1 Super 90. I guarantee you could cut somebody in half. You should check it out.


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Iron God

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posted February 22, 2001 12:38 AM

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Vang Comp Remington 870 or the Mossberg 590 (cheap and VERY reliable).

Get a pump action, stay away from Semi-auto's.

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TxCollegeguy

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posted February 22, 2001 12:41 AM

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Check around for a Benalli(sp?) tactical shotgun. I'll ask my uncle what model number his is. I think because he's works for the INS he was able to get one. I thought it felt pretty light weight. Perhaps someone else here has a clue about what I'm talking about here...


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Iron God

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posted February 22, 2001 12:41 AM

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Stay away from Benelli and HK simply not worth the money.. A shotgun is a shotgun.

Here where to go to get the best.

http://www.vangcomp.com/

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WarLobo

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posted February 22, 2001 01:21 AM

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You all realize I will need to be able to shoot while riding my Harley - terminator style

IG, you should be in bed by now!

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Badkins21

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posted February 22, 2001 02:08 AM

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[email protected] want to see you cock that pump action like Linda Hamilton/Sarah Connor did at the end of T2 when her one arm was all f*cked up...!!!

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burndaddy

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posted February 22, 2001 03:06 AM

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burndaddy likes the rem 870, quality product, fair price, ultimatly upgradable and american made...

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ryker77

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posted February 22, 2001 10:54 AM

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The 870 has been around for a long time. And alot of aftermarket parts for it.

The M1 bennile is a awesome machine. It all depends on your money??
The cheaper mosseburg 500 are Ok for the money.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted February 22, 2001 11:05 AM

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Warlobo...you never post on this board...I enjoy reading your post on the womans board...I pefer to call you the WL Educator...very informative posts


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WarLobo

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posted February 22, 2001 11:07 AM

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Very interesting.... Vang Comp is close by. I'm call them here in a few.

The Mossberg has 6 and 9 shot... that's nice to have... Might miss once or twice Never mind my sharpshooting medal...

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Laserdude

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posted February 22, 2001 12:10 PM

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The winchester Defender 12 guage pump, with 8 shot mag. What more do want?

Good quality, and pricing.


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WarLobo

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posted February 22, 2001 12:40 PM

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Hey Shaggy, I drop in now and then. But them women keep me hopp'en

So I've got a good direction on the gun. NOW, what do you all think for the loads? Remember it's for self defence, not hunting turkey or deer.

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MP5

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posted February 22, 2001 12:56 PM

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I would go with the Benelli or the Remington 870. You can get "assault" type accesories for the Remingtons. I don't like Mossberg, they are junk. They were only made famous by Rap guys who don't know whit about firearms.

Warlobo...I am envisioning you as the "Lone Biker of the Apocalypse" like in Raising Arizona!

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WarLobo

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posted February 22, 2001 01:51 PM

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MP5, LOL! Yah, but my bike looks better

And the Remington is pulling out in the lead!

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cm3504jm

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posted February 22, 2001 02:12 PM

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I have to vote for the 870.

I have a Mossberg and Remington. I don't have anything against the Mossie, but the 870 is smoother.

The Benelli is nice, but the $$$$$$$?

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Iron God

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posted February 22, 2001 02:42 PM

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Federal Tactical 00 Buck (grey box), Its got reduced recoil without sacrificing balistics.

Without a doubt one of the best self-defense loads out there.


Slugs are nice for range or if you have to shoot at a car. But for indoor use at close range(under 15 meters) 00 Buck is second to none.


IG

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WarLobo

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posted February 22, 2001 03:56 PM

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Can you cycle rounds?? As in one load a slug, the next round a 00, the next a slug, and so on? (Might need a tracer :P)

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Iron God

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posted February 22, 2001 04:42 PM

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It's called "Candy Caning". Not recommended for home defense.

Load up the tube with all 00 buck and keep slugs in the side saddle and do a manual load, if you need a slug.

IF you want a good book on shotguns and how to deploy,train and maintain them.

I recommend "The Tactical Shotgun" by Mr.Gabriel Suarez. Awesome book, awesome instructor.


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Iron God

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posted February 23, 2001 09:22 AM

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Check out this site...
http://www.angelfire.com/tx/ShotGun/TTS.html

Very good info


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Cleaner

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posted February 23, 2001 10:00 AM

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Any name brand shotgun won't let you down.

Just go to a shop and feel them. One will jump off the shelf and say take me.
Sounds silly but thats the truth.

Have.


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WarLobo

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posted February 23, 2001 10:49 AM

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Good read IG

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Juice Moose

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posted February 24, 2001 12:35 AM

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Check out crossfirellc.com, they have a 12 gauge, .223 rifle combination that I will be ordering soon.

I have a mossberg 500 at this time, this is a very nice weapon for the price, I load it with 000 buck, followed by slugs for home defense, I like having the availability of longer range if needed, that is why I will be ordering the crossfire, I will only load 000 buck in it. Anyone know the best round to use in .223?


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mrbill

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posted February 24, 2001 02:33 AM

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like laserdude said...the winchester defender is a good choice if you are on a budget. There are alot of good shotguns but some are pricey. The winchester is about $200 new, 8 shot magazine, reliable. Just get any good quality gun and you should be happy. Btw, i keep mine full of 00 buckshot.

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Iron God

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posted February 24, 2001 09:57 AM

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For the .223 Hornady XTP 55gr polymer tip is an awesome self defense round for indoors, for the polymer is explosive against soft targets (no over-penetration) yet will dissipate when it comes into contact with a wall.

As for outdoors any good fatory load will do (Russian is good for plinking) but for real use go with either NATO 63 grain (IF your barrrel twist rate is tight enough) or 55 grain standard for 1/9 or 1/12 twist rates.

Sierra make an Awesome Blitz King bullet also (if you reload).


Try this guy for your ammo needs
http://www.ammoman.com


IG

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Laserdude

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posted February 24, 2001 05:47 PM

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The sierra company makes some of the best bullets you can find for reloading. Very accurate, spendy to a degree with the accuracy is the deal.

I have been shooting the 22-250 55 grain, and the .308 all being boat tail match grades and you can put a bullet through a bullet hole if you practice and get your scope right on the money. Real fun when you can put 12 shots into a spot about a little bigger than a quarter.


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