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freak daddy

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posted February 18, 2001 02:50 PM

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never meant to make your daughter cry
i apoligized a trillion times
i'm sorry mrs.jackson
i am for real!!!!
this is the best song,hands down,i've heard on the radio in a long time!!!
peace!!

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posted February 18, 2001 02:57 PM

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My favorite part is :
forever, forever ever, forever ever?
Cracks me up everytime especially in the video!

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posted February 18, 2001 03:07 PM

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Is MASTER-P a part of Outkast? I saw master-p's house or caught a glimpse of it on MTV and all I say is, "WOW, HOLY SHIT"


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posted February 18, 2001 03:10 PM

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i'm not sure fistfullofsteel!! i seen his house also! that was quite impressive!

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posted February 18, 2001 03:12 PM

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i dont understand the damn song
i dont listen to the lyrics either
i find it annoying (the song)

please enlighten me ?

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posted February 18, 2001 03:15 PM

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i think it has something to do with mrs.jacksons daughter!! i know what your thinking dread lady....your a smart ass!!! i saved you the flame!!

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posted February 18, 2001 03:16 PM

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I don't understand the song either, my son listens to it all the time so I hope I'm not missing something that could give him the wrong idea. I just like the forever ever part.

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posted February 18, 2001 03:24 PM

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here is my take! the brother singing the song had a thing with mrs.jacksons daughter, and he dicked her over, and broke her heart. so mrs.jackson is making a big deal about the situation, and wants this guy put to sleep! so he is apologozing to mrs.jackson for breaking her daughters heart! with no apogies taken by mrs.jackson!

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posted February 18, 2001 04:02 PM

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That Shaggy "It wasn't me" is getting pretty irritating. His other songs like angel, mr. boombastic, lonely lover, are alot better...don't know why they play It wasn't me instead.


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posted February 18, 2001 04:29 PM

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he fucked mrs jacksons daughter and got her pregnant

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i heard it was something about a single father that couldnt keep a commitment?>
maybe that is it

like i give a damn anyway
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posted February 18, 2001 06:10 PM

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I absolutely detest that song, and I am incredibly happy that I finally got an mp3 player and don't have to listen to that trash at the gym anymore.

UGH!

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posted February 18, 2001 06:15 PM

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The song is about Andre 3000 relationship and breakup with Eraka Badu(sp?). Mrs. Jackson is Badu's mom. They had a child together and letter separated.


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He's tired of hearing Mrs. Jackson bitch about how they have a child together when its just "puppy love" she thinks he's a bad father, hence why he says "yes I will be there on the first day of school, and at graduation" and that "its not just another paycheck"

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posted February 19, 2001 02:25 AM

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rap fucking sucks, don't know any of you can listen to that shit.


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posted February 19, 2001 03:37 AM

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Hate is a very strong strong word.
I sometimes find that those who use the word hate when describing how they feel about rap music, often have racist motives for their opinion. Rap is a genre of music most typically performed by blacks who are usually just expressing their side and views of some of their own culturally unique problems and sometimes just a different perspective on some of the same issues that many of you find important. Not understanding and welcoming this difference in perspective may be part of the reason many people don't particulary like rap, but submerged racism in my opinion is the reason that some people say they "hate" rap.

Your thoughts?

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no Master P is not part of Outkast!!!!!!!

Master owns No Limit records which he basically created with money he made selling drugs.

He's also too good to be part of Outkast.

I'm from ATL and I cannot stand Outkast. There first album was good but they're pop now.

Ms Jackson makes me sick to my stomach when i hear it.


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lol yeah MAster P is better than outkast!!?? What the fuck are you smokin? I agree there first album was the best (typical of all groups that make it big with the exception of 2Pac) . Master P and all those other fools silk, mystical, they all are a bunch of no talents. They made there money cuz the south didnt have shit to rally around that was pop enough - they are pretty fucking sorry - ghetto postage?? wtf? I thought he was done making records - hehe gimmicky sob. I have nothing against P and the others and I listen to some of the songs on the radio if they dont suck to bad and I think they are entertaining in a funny way, shit have you listen to any of C murders shit?? He is trying so hard to sound like pac, and his shit is unbeleivable if he ever killed someone it was b/c that person died laughin at his ass - all they shit is CORNY - bunch of fake ass's yeah they rich and Im ok with that good for them, but their shit is terrible. Even Outkast last few CD's mainstream and all blow the shit out of that bullshit crew "it aint my fault" sorriest song ever. Ill give it up for CMM's crew I like their shit but I am guessing P takes about 30 minuted to thow the albums together, snoops cd's sucked with P but they suck most of the time without dre or battlecat bumpin in the backround.

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And Master P never had a chance to go pop, b/c thats where he started. bout it bout it uuughghhhh

Thug whatcha think of DPG?

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Kwai Chang---I Hate Country music, and I'm white, so I guess that really doesn't classify me as a racist now does it?? I'd say that the overwhelming majority of black people hate country music too, just because someone says they hate rap music doesn't mean they hate black people, thats the problem with the world today, everyone is against the black race right?? Any kind of critizism toward their culture, music, actions, overwhelming prison population, or jokes of ANY kind are considered to be rascist.

Don't defend the black race when someone says they hate rap, cause if someone said they hated country, you damn well wouldn't defend the white race now would you??

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posted February 19, 2001 02:04 PM

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First you hate Who let the dogs out and now you praise this song... I don't get it!?!?!


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who let the dogs out and mrs jackson are nowhere near the same level. Where are you people from?

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posted February 19, 2001 02:45 PM

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Masta P sucks ass


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A middle class white mans opinion:

Master P wishes he were 2Pac.

OutKast is one of the best rap groups around today.

Who let the dogs out is in the same class as Macarena- why was it even mentioned?

Mrs. Jackson is a good song.

Master P, and all albums released on No Limit, suck.


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uuuuuugggggghhhhhhh nanananaa

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Well, "Bout Dat" has been on 106 & Park for over 2 months straight now so it is safe to say that he has street credibility.
How can you make fun of Silkk and C-Murder? The TRU albums are regarded as some of the best rap albums EVER but I doubt you guys have ever heard them.
How does C-Murder try to sound like pac? And then someone said Master P tries to be pac? Do you people even know any rapper besides pac? What makes someone guilty of trying to be like pac? I don't see or hear anything that makes me say "they want to be pac".
Just because you don't like ghetto postage that means it is a bad album? Someone said Master P's first album was his only good one. I'm sure they were referring to Ghetto D because that's what most people who don't know shit about rap think is his first album. Yes, just like other Master P records they were all good.
All the people saying Ms Jackson is so great, have you even heard the album or only B.O.B. and that song? How many of you have heard a Silkk album or a Master P song besides "Make em Say Uhh"?
I guess this is something we'll end up agreeing to disagree on. In my opinion, Outkast isn't worth shit since "Wheels of Steel".
I just remembered someone said "Bout it, Bout it" was a pop song. I won't even respond to that comment. I will say this, go to a black club and compare the difference between what happens what "Ms Jackson" comes on and "Bout it Bout it" comes on. The place would go absolutely insane if "Bout it Bout it" came on.


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I hate that song..."I am for real"...

Now Peter Piper picked peppers, but Run rocked rhymes.
Humpty Dumpty fell down, that's his hard time.
Jack B. Nimble was nimble, and he was quick,
but Jam Master is faster, Jack's on Jay's dick.
Now little Bo Peep cold lost her sheep
and Rip van Winkle fell the hell asleep.
And Alice chilled with someone in Wonderland
Jack's serving Jill with bucket in his hand.
And Jam Master Jay is making bad ass sounds,
the turntables might wobble but they won't fall down.

Now Dr. Seuss and Mother Goose both did their thing.
but, Jam Master's gettin' loose and DMC's the king.
Cause he's the adult entertainer, child educator,
Jam Master Jay, king of the crossfader.
He's the better of the best, best believe he's the baddest.
Perfect timin' when I'm climbin', I'm rhymin' apparatus.
Lotta guts, when he cuts, girls move their butts.
His name is Jay, here to play, he must be nuts.
And on the mix, real quick, and I'd like to say
he's not flat, but he's fast and his name is Jay!

It goes a one, two, three and...

Jay's like King Midas, as I was told,
everything that he touched, turned to gold.
He's the greatest of the great, get it straight he's great.
Claim fame cause his name is known in every state.
His name is Jay to see him play will make you say:
"God damn, that DJ made my day!"
Like the butcher, the baker, the candlestick maker,
he's a maker, a breaker, and a title taker.
Like the little old lady who lived in a shoe.
If cuts were hits, he would be too.
I'm not lying, y'all, he's the best I know,
and if I lie, my nose will grow
like the little wooden boy named Pinochio,
and you all know how the story goes!
Tricks are for kids he plays much gigs.
He's the big bad wolf and you're the three pigs.
He's the big bad wolf in your neighborhood,
not bad meaning bad, but bad meaning good!

There it is...

We're Run-DMC, got a beef to settle.
D's not Hansel, he's not Gretel.
Jay's a winner, not a beginner.
His pocket gets fat, other get thinner.
J-J-Jump on Jay like cows jump moons,
People chase Jay like dish and spoon.
and like all fairy tales end,
you'll see Jay again my friend!
Huh!

NOW THAT BE A SONG


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For 2 years following 2Pacs death, every chance Master P got he talked about Pac like they were boys- when they never knew each other.


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Wow Thug you talk and talk but you didnt read any of my posts I guess, you like to argue but not facts - just something that makes it sound like you know what your talking about.

If your telling me TRU or any of those other weak ass rappers are reguarded as the best album of all time I am positive that you have NO IDEA WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT - if you cant see how C-Murder sounds like pac I dont thing we can rgue anything b/c of your blind allegiance to their crew.

I know your a "crazy thug" and all but I dont think you know shit about real rap, you throw out the buzzwords like oh there pop now, but then you think that TRU are some of the best rap album ever? Where do you get that? Are you watching sales or the blips in the mags?

Its not that I dont like ghetto postage its that I dont like any of his fuckin songs, not one sounds good, not one has any kind of lyrical uniquness, not one is original IMHO, and on top of all that they all sound like some fakers. yeah yeah strreet cred my ass, they look scared spittin some of their "rhymes" if thats what you want to call them, just some kids talkin tough maybe did some dirt to try and get cred but fakers nonetheless. I see how c-murder tries to push that shit on the public by ambigiously answering questions about where he got his name, Ive read and heard a few interviews and its obvious the guy is just trying to sell that hes hard.

I have heard all of stank and most of it is good to ok, I like southerplayastic better though.

Where are you from Thug? I have to know what clubs you go to that people go crazy to bout it shit, as if thats a guage of good music, puff daddys shit has all the bitches in the club going crazy you think hes a good rapper? lol

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Slo, what clubs are you at? I don't hear PD anywhere. The only PD song I ever hear is "He Loves Me Not" by Dream.

No, I'm not reading magazines about rap or watching billboard sales charts. I don't have enough time to waste to do that.

Gimmicky? Look at Outkast. Just look at them! You don't think the clothes they wear is a gimmick?

The TRU albums are considered great because they came out of absolutely nowhere and blew up with "Freak Hoes" and "I Always Feel Like". That album built No Limit and launched the careers of almost all rappers from New orleans. Mystikal was the only one anyone had heard before then and most people (I'm sure you included) have never even heard the song "Ya'll Aint Ready Yet".
Give me one verse from any C-Muder song and tell me what makes it like pac. Don't just say "he sounds like pac and you're dumb because you don't think so".

I'm from ATL by the way.


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I like about 1 out of 500 rap songs..to me its the same shit....poor, downtordden African Americans singing the blues...only difference is they did it better the first time....gimme Muddy Waters over Master P anyday....

I don't mind the heavy stuff on Cypress Hill's new album though.


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Ok lets go through it again since you clearly ignore my posts:

You said this:

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The TRU albums are regarded as some of the best rap albums EVER but I doubt you guys have ever heard them

Ok who reguards them as that? you? your friends? That doesnt make it so.

You missed the point of the PD reference so: is that how you guage how good a rapper is IF PEOPLE IN THE CLUBS GO CRAZY WHEN THEY HEAR IT? Then I brought up PD as an answer to my question that obviously just b/c people dance when PD comes on that dont make it good.

Outkast - dre is crazy that aint no gimmick hes just a lunatic, big b - is as straight as they come - do you see them with the benzos and the beems and the RR's or bents?? nope, do they have them yup - what do you see them in Cadi's and shit. Im not saying its wrong to rap about cars and money but honestly it robbs most lyrics of any kind of originality and profoundness.

Cmurder: you picked one song and said basically 'look he doesnt sound like pac there' I forget which album I shouldnt have bought of cmurders I know it was a few years back and all white cover but I dont remember the name, me and my homies were laughin half way through that fake shit - it was actually funny.

I dont have any problem with you liking them boys, but dont be saying they are reguarded as the best if your talking about your clicks consensus out in ATL. To each his own, even if the shit sucks I guess lol j/k!

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Kat: Listen to DJ quick for happy music (watch out its pop though uhoh! hehe)

Most of it isnt the blues at all, well not what I listen to anyways.

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Slopey, dont get me wrong...I LOVE the blues, but what I was trying to say is that "urban"music has come from the same places that the original blues did; uneducated, poverty, "downtrodden" if you will....and the subjects havent changed; drugs, women, alcohol, death by violence...same shit, except the old boys did it so much better.

And like black men (and women) started the blues and the rich white kids followed and created rocknroll because they couldnt quite copy it, so will things change with rich white kids trying to emulate rappers.

Look at Everlast...he sees the connection between rap and blues...he sounds like an old black man if you close your eyes.


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hehe what you call the blues (drinking drugs, women and violence) I call fast life hehe.

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posted February 19, 2001 05:07 PM

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I guess Im racist, cause Id rather blow my fucking head off then listen to cRap. whatever.. Im so sick of the race issue as a whole.


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