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danielson

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posted February 03, 2001 06:37 PM

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the 2 people being bruce lee (or a really good martial artist) and KANE (or a really good wrestler, he's the first i thought of)

i was saying as soon as kane gets a hold of bruce lee he's fucked, because even though bruce lee was REALLY fast i felt some things might have been over exaggerrated, he is at the end of the day a man, and since KANE could take a few hits without dying, as soon as he'd get in close it would be over

my friend, said even though kane was a wrestler, bruce lee was really fast, could dodge everything and 1 inch punch kane till he died. he said martial arts were really mystical and made fighter almost superhuman so KANE wouldn't stand a chance.

we never resolved it as what he was saying might have been true. what do u think?

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Checkmatebloated

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posted February 03, 2001 06:41 PM

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Stange, but I would go with Kane also just because of pure size. He would be like 150lbs heavier and 1ft taller. I'm not sure if Bruce would have the power to hurt him.


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posted February 03, 2001 06:44 PM

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HAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH YOU GUYS ARE REALLY FUNNY.KANE HAS NO SKILL WHATSOEVER.IN MARTIAL ARTS SIZE MEANS NOTHING.POWER COMES FROM INNER CHI......BRUCE LEE HAD AMAZING GRASP OF THIS FORCE,WHICH FROM A DISTANCE OF 1 INCH LEE COULD KNOCK A MAN BACK ABOUT 10 FEET.I REALLY CANT BELIEVE YOU GUYS THINK SOMEONE LIKE KANE WOULD EVEN HAVE A CHANCE EVEN IF HE DID GRAB LEE.YOU GUYS AMUSE ME.

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posted February 03, 2001 06:46 PM

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Kane would I know bruce lee use to be the man but Think he gets overated and people are mostly caught up with his ledgen. Remeber bruce lee never did any full combat karata like chuck norris so dont know if he would have held up.


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danielson

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posted February 03, 2001 06:49 PM

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yeah, ok i don't know any world class wrestlers other than those in WWF, but with all the inner chi etc. kane (or whatever wrestler) is gonna get a good grab on lee. with all that physical strength lee ain't gonna be able to do shit.

the reason i think like this is they did a doccy about the martial arts. a lot of martial artists (admittedly almost all westerners) said that the arts were hyped up, possibly more than they were capable of. Beast you just said almost exactly what my mate said. thats why i thought like i do (and check) wrestler are HUGE


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posted February 03, 2001 07:02 PM

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I don't think Kane would stand a chance, he is way to slow, all that Bruce would have to do was wait for him to try something, then dodge it and attack. I agree that Kane might win if he got a hold of Lee, but I don't think he would be able to.


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posted February 03, 2001 07:11 PM

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Bruce Lee hands down...

In fact I'd put my money on a skilled martial artist over anyone in the WWF with the exception of Ken Shamrock.


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posted February 03, 2001 09:04 PM

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All lee would have to do is nail him in the balls, or the knee, or the throat, or even the eyes. If that didn't work Kane would kill him with the choke slam.


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posted February 03, 2001 09:15 PM

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If you have seen those heavy duty martial arts dudes in those extreme fighting or whatever, an actor in the WWF wouldnt stand a chance


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posted February 03, 2001 09:16 PM

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Kane is a grappler, Lee was a striker. Kane also happens to weigh more than double. If Kane were quick enough to grip Lee he would crush him. I doubt Lee's strikes would have much effect on Kane due to their relative body weights unless it was a NHB match where he could strike to knees or throat/eyes. I have over 15 years in Freestyle Martial Arts and have seen matches like this and usually the grappler will win if he can get close enough without getting knocked out or seriously injured.


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danielson

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posted February 03, 2001 09:44 PM

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kool, thats what i thought strength. if he gets in close enough as a grappler it would be wham bam thank you maam. i did actually forget that Lee could fight a little dirty and hit the guy in the bollocks though. that'll take anyone down

whats a ken shamrock?!?

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posted February 03, 2001 09:49 PM

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But the real question should be who would win, Walker Texas Ranger or Stone Cold Steve Austin. C'mon guys Kane is a performer not an acutal "shoot" fighter. The are some true bad asses in American pro wrestling but Kane isn't one of them.

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danielson

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posted February 03, 2001 10:02 PM

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i just picked kane because he's a big wrestler. anyone would have done, steven regal, cris benoit-> kurt angle . besides if there was a fight, angle would just make RIKISHI to jump Lee and bash him with a steel chair

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posted February 04, 2001 12:55 AM

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Bruce Lee---very quickly. Lee's strategies were very simple. Direct, brutal, quick and forceful.
As a former student of Jeet Kune Do concepts from one of the foremost authorities on the way of the interposing fist, I have the perspective of knowing what Lee's intentions and goals were in formulating Jeet Kune Do. Anyone who has studied JKD in detail knows that power is relative...yet somewhat non-essential when it comes to delivering an attack on the throat or eyes or groin. Tao of JKD shows just that. Lee had the advantage of amazing speed as well as revolutionary footwork that has been heavily borrowed by the boxing community. If Kane could catch him, the second problem would be what to do with him...after all, how do you beat a guy who will not stop striking you in vital places and who has the ability do make sure the punches count? The only person I can even imagine who could've beaten Bruce Lee is Steven K. Hayes...who is so good that he now is head of security for the most heavily protected man in the world.

Speed is everything...especially when it is combined with power and repetition. Lee had it all, skinny yes, but he was one of a kind.


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Wombat

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posted February 04, 2001 01:31 AM

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Lee would have him out in less then 10 sec.--This is the stupidest thread Ive read--


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posted February 05, 2001 05:09 PM

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I used to kick tires and small trees with my shins, inner knees, and elbows to build a lick layer of toughness over them(Thai Tech). This was many years ago. I also studied leverage and tosses(J Tech). Never went past Brown belt in either dis, but I do feel a big ass strong person could of beat me up back then. I was confident, but still weak. Of course I do understand that their is a large differenct between a me and a skilled black belt at that time.

I have some hard ass elbows and shins to show for it now though.


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posted February 05, 2001 05:25 PM

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Ok ok ok
Here's a good match.
Gracie vs. Lee
Tell what you think - I know were my money is.
This is a fairy tale match:
wrestler vs. martial arts.

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posted February 05, 2001 05:42 PM

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Some of you are forgetting that martial arts is also about escaping the grasp of a more powerful individual. First, Kane would not be fast enough to even get ahold of him. Second, I'm sure Lee would be able to put him in a wrist lock or other submission hold before Kane knew what had happened. Finally, Kane has weaknesses like the throat, sternum, nose, and knees like everyone else. It doesn't take much to destroy one of these areas, especially to an incredibly skilled martial artist, and bring even the toughest brawler to his knees.


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Checkmatebloated

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posted February 05, 2001 06:21 PM

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I'm thinking Gracie. Again these are things we will never know, however we do know gracie has kicked the crap out of may trained in the arts.


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You guys heavily underestimate the actual fighting ability of some of today's pro-wrestlers. Most of the them have some sort of formal training in disciplines like Shootfighting, Greco-Roman, or some other form of REAL submission wrestling.
I would definitely take Kane on this one. Bruce Lee is way overhyped and would get beat to death by many of the fighters you've seen on the UFC's or Pride matches.
Bruce is great on celluloid, but he means about as much to me as the wizard Merlin when it comes to actual combat.

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posted February 05, 2001 08:32 PM

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Are you all forgetting that B. Lee was actually a grapler? All the striking was for the movies. He was strong as hell for his size and knew how to wrestle/stike on the floor/grapple very very well. What good is kane's strength when B. Lee gets him on the groung and rips his bicep in an arm lock?
Now B. Lee and gracie-that really would be interesting.


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posted February 05, 2001 08:48 PM

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HMMMMMM...funny question.

I think everyone has covered the jist of things. BUT, if you read Bruce Lee'e workout program in a 1991 Muscle and fitness magazine dedicated to him you all would realize his strength. HE could hold a 70lb DB out in front of him for 30 sec. He would alk into a gymand show us muscle heads the true meaning of mind over muscle. He is known to kick a 300lb heavy bag ONCE and make it hit the ceiling. So, never question his power. Just think Tyson could throw 3 punches with force in .3 seconds, and he has no mind control. LEE has the ability to focus all power and strike with force. HE is known to study all aspects of fighting. HE could counter every move that KANE brought to him. Lee would not go to the ground because he was too fast and had the power to move any man with his strikes. BRUCE trained to fight that what he was made for. Kane is made to entertain. He is a big strong man, but LEE would rape him all day. One shot to the knee, then throat and KAne would be done. NO QUESTIONS

NOW POST SOMETHING THAT MAKES SENSE.


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posted February 05, 2001 08:52 PM

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Bruce Lee, it's about the motivation and spirit coming from the inside.


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posted February 05, 2001 09:05 PM

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Bruce Lee was strong. It would be a short strike fight.


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posted February 05, 2001 09:57 PM

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If Kane gets hold of Bruce Lee, its OVER!! Inner chi crap can't save you from a 7 foot tall monster who can throw you ten PLUS feet in the air!


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posted February 05, 2001 10:05 PM

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That inner chi stuff is such a bull crap... you�ve seen too much movies now... Bruce Lee was 5"7 140lbs... i don�t know Kane but if he�s a big wrestler he doubles Bruce in weight and is a foot taller... Kane would crush Lee, unless he can�t move reasonably...


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posted February 05, 2001 10:43 PM

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Kane has actually been slammed around by a bunch of behemoths, so he could take a hit. For those of you who think pro wrestling is all staged, your right, but it is also very demanding and requires an extraordinary amount of conditioning. Bruce Lee never competed, just had this legend thing going on because of his teachings. Never fought anyone famous for there fighting skill, just a lot of theory. The one inch punch was demonstrated on people who stood still, I doubt Kane would sit there. I'd give Kane the win, seeing as to Bruce is now dead and Kane continues to entertain. In a way, Bruce was also just entertainment, all he did was demonstrate skills, never actually fought. Oh wait, those bootleg tapes of him getting medieval on the worlds greatest fighters........


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posted February 06, 2001 06:50 AM

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I have a feeling even i would rip apart Bruce Lee...


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posted February 06, 2001 09:43 AM

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Lee would whip his ass all over the place.


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