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Joseph_stalin

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posted January 29, 2001 12:39 AM

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i have used dnp twice. the side effects were too much for me to handle, and i don't feel it is worth it.

having said that. i did two cycles. on the first cycle, i weighed 285. i did 400 mg a day (200 mg 2x a day) for 4 days, then 800 mg a day (400 mg 2x a day) for 2 days. that 6 day cycle brought me down to 278.

i tried to do a second cycle, but backed out. here is what happened. i took 1 400 mg pill, and my heart rate went up to 190 a minute. so i didn't use dnp anymore. anyway, within a week i was down to 271 with only 1 400 mg pill.

so my point is, since dnp is so dangerous (supposedly it is tied to parkinsons), do you think that we are taking like 10x more than we need? i lost 7 lbs. in 1 week by taking 400 mg and i lost 7 lbs. in 1 week by taking 3200 mg.

anyone else lost weight on very low doses of dnp? willing to try to see what happens? we could be taking risks we don't need to take by taking more than needed. just take like 600 mg on days 1 & 2, then wait a week to see if your weight goes down by 8-9 lbs.


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Valdez

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posted January 29, 2001 12:42 AM

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I would use it very mildly if your gonna use it. maybe 400mg a day max, for no longer than a week (if you could make it that long)


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Joseph_stalin

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posted January 29, 2001 12:48 AM

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i really don't think it is worth the risk myself.

what i want to know is if anyone else here has experienced good weight loss with only 1 400-800 mg dose?

most people who take dnp take 400-600 a day for a week, but i lost just as much by only taking 1 400 mg dose. and that means people could be taking much more than they need to lose weight.


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giantset

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posted January 29, 2001 02:00 AM

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I would be genuinely interested in reading any article you have found that links or even suggests any relationship between DNP and Parkinson's disease. I have never heard about this relationship before. DNP is really crazy since no one really seems to know how to use it properly. At 400mg a day I sometimes loose 5 or 6 lbs in a week and other times I might only loose 1 or 2 lbs. I often see a difference on the scale but only a mild difference in the mirror. Anabolic Extreme has an article that suggests that 3 day cycles of DNP used a few times a month is highly effective. As far as taking one pill and then loosing a few pounds, it could be that the DNP that you took before was still active in your body and this gave you a needed boost to burn up some more fat. Who knows?

I just finished a 6 day cycle of DNP and I played some 3 on 3 bball before the Super Bowl started. After about 20 minutes I was soaking wet and so dehydrated that my abs were cramping. It didn't help that I was drinking beer but it is Super Sunday after all. Sometimes I wonder if DNP is worth the hassel. It is like I am flipping a coin when I use it, maybe I'll loose alot of weight, maybe I won't.

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Joseph_stalin

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posted January 29, 2001 02:24 AM

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as with many of my posts, i have no hard evidence.

i heard it is tied to parkinsons by reading posts on another board. some guy was talking about dnp. he said that he had a friend in medical college and they were talking about drugs. the bodybuilder brought up dnp, and the student said that they used dnp at college to give mice parkinsons. i assume so they could study the disease. anyway, if dnp gives mice parkinsons, even temporary, then i don't want to use it.

besides, after my first cycle, i got temporary parkinsons (pseudoparkinsons, i think). my arm would twitch when i tried to hold it still. went away after a few days.

incedentally, i'm not being self deprecating, but i wouldn't take my advice without checking it with an independent, verifiable 3rd party. i read alot, but have a bad memory. which makes me a know it all who is wrong alot.

even if dnp causes parkinsons, it could be the same kind of parkinsons xtc supposedly causes, the kind that doesn't appear until you are 60. considering how mice only live a few years, the student COULD have meant that they give the mice drugs when they are young then wait a few years until they are old, then they get parkinsons. if that is true (the guy didn't say) then dnp could only give parkinsons when you get to be in your 50s or 60s. by that time they will probably be better able to cure it.

combined with the fact that the student didn't tell the bodybuilder the doses being given to the mice. i'm assuming the doses were about what we take, as dnp can kill or give brain damage if you take too much.

anyway, i got pseudoparkinsons after i went off, but thats not the main reason i don't use it. i got really bad nightmares, and dnp weakened my digestive system. plus the 190 heartrate. it just isn't worth it to me.

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tnheygirl

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posted January 29, 2001 09:08 AM

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I am on my 4th day of dnp at 200mg/day. I feel nothing at all. I weigh 135lbs. I get on the stairmaster and still takes me just as long to work up any kind of sweat. I am coming to the conclusion they do not work for me at all.

I did another cycle before this one about a month and half ago and nothing. What is going on?

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giantset

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posted January 29, 2001 02:16 PM

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tnheygirl, I wish I could help you out but I have never experienced what you are talking about. I have done at least 10-12 DNP cycles so far and I always feel hot and start sweating in the first 3 days. You could start doubling the dose for the first day to jump start the DNP buildup but I am not too familiar with DNP's effects on women. I sometimes don't loose much on DNP and other times I loose a considerable amount but I always get the bad side effects. It is possible that you have some fake or possibly underdosed DNP. I don't think DNP degrades very quickly so I doubt that it is denatured. You might try capping it yourself next time if you are not already. It should be very easy to tell if it is fake. Pour some out on a piece of glass and pour some water on it and it should turn neon yellow and stain the cloth you use to clean it up. If you have any more problems you can e-mail me and I will try and find the solution. I have a ton of DNP research sitting around my house somewhere.

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Formula

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posted January 29, 2001 04:55 PM

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Hey JF listen to your body. It didn't react well to DNP at a low dosage of 400mg. I would not risk it. Get clen or an over the counter supplement. Don't forget the diet and cardio. It ain't worth it if you're dead.

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TwinGATs

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posted January 29, 2001 05:12 PM

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I just finished my 11th day cycle of 400mgs a day.....started at 207 on the start of the 11th day I weighed 195....I felt fine most of the time....I was taking vits, ECA, 2 gallons of water a day, 30 grams of creatine/day....


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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 29, 2001 06:42 PM

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im curious about dnp myself,i am wondering where you can aquire this,i dont want a source just like where i can buy it be it a drugstore dealer anything,and what would a cycle cost?
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madbomber31

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posted January 29, 2001 07:10 PM

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tnhey girl.. you got mail (soon)

ive dabbled more then once with it, ive also read up like you should... 400mg a day is actually too high a dose. the half life is 36 hours, so you do the math. by the end of the week your on some crazy doses... tnhey, i actually think 200 may be too high for you,and seeing how your not getting hot, dont start thinking its not working, thats how you get in trouble. first, its easy to tell if its real, and if it is real THERE IS NO WAY FOR IT NOT TO WORK. you also wont see the results until your OFF of it for a few days, (due to the water retention, etc.)

i personally like 300mg, then 300mg 12 hours later, then i just take 300mg every 36 hours, it works great for me and is a mild dose, i couldnt handle any more active in my body, i had to make the ole girlie get away from me during sleepy time cuz it was just TOO hot.


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tnheygirl

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posted January 29, 2001 09:59 PM

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Well I'm a total weirdo! It's the 5th day and as before I have the carb cravings, neon urine, and slight headaches, and bloating but not a damn drop of sweat! I am so frustrated and no one can tell me how I have every other symptom but the sweating. Any ideas out there? I am so pissed.


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Joseph_stalin

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posted January 29, 2001 11:57 PM

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dnp can't be bought at a drug store. you would have to buy it from a dealer or have a friend who is either a hobby chemist or farmer or something like that get some for you.

i suppose you can get 250 grams for $20. a cycle usually consists of 400-600 mg a day for 8 days. so a cycle is about 3.2-4.8 g. or about 35 cents.


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The Canadian Oak

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posted January 30, 2001 01:21 PM

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so they sell this at farm stores? my friend owns a cow farm and they told me about a place where i can buy fina one town over i figure they would have it there also ? is it called dnp in the store?

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madbomber31

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posted January 30, 2001 02:48 PM

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oak, get your head out of your ass... if you touch this shit i will personally drive north and beat the fuck out of you


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Joseph_stalin

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posted January 31, 2001 12:36 AM

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i doubt you can buy it in farm stores. you have to buy it from a company that sells chemicals. But stores won't sell chemicals unless you have paperwork that says you are going to use it legally. since dnp is an insecticide ingredient, a farmer might be able to buy dnp from one of these companies. someone off the street couldn't. they'd need proof that they were going to use it legally.


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