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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 26, 2000 01:52 PM

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Its a natural sweetner with no carbs....any try in? in cooking? etc...

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MS

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posted September 26, 2000 03:41 PM

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I find it an aquired taste......one that I have not been able to aquire. Best thing to do is try it for yourself.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 27, 2000 10:04 AM

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like aspartame? bitter, minty? Thanks for the reply though baby


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lonewulf

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posted September 27, 2000 03:38 PM

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I was enjoying my EAS Simply Protein that uses Stevia as a sweetener until I read that it has been shown to cause testicular shrinkage in Lab rats. I know things dont always work the same in rats as in humans, and its possible I could have gotten some bad info, but gulping down that stevia just aint been the same since. I try to use aspartame sweeteners now most of the time.


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Valdez

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posted September 27, 2000 07:53 PM

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sugar is very chemically similar to cocaine.

who cares what it does to lab rats.

It's not as sweet as aspartame or acesulfate potassium so use a combo of them not by themselves.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 28, 2000 01:20 PM

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I don't buy it ....those rats are faking it!!!!! Everything gives them problems!!! I want NEW RATS!!!


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~~~SlickassBiatch~~~

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posted September 28, 2000 08:52 PM

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I've used it in coffee...but thats it.


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THE EXTREME

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posted September 28, 2000 11:15 PM

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SHAGWELL, since you bashed me in my post, i'm gonna return the favor. why dont you study up on this? learn how your body works with and without artificial sweetener, then make your decision. LOL. dude, see how it sucks to get flamed? not gonna start a war here, so lets be cool and help each other out. peace bro.
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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted September 29, 2000 03:28 PM

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Extreme...I've done the research...and know how my body works with "it" and with out "it".....and it works GGGRRROOOOVVVEEEYYY baby. Stevia is a natural plant source sweetner, not an artifical sweetner you little dildo....By the By....I'm not a dude.....all woman here suga

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buckydingdong

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posted October 05, 2000 11:42 PM

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I for one think it is horrible, except if you put a little less stevia than normal and some equal. the stuff is just bitter as heck.


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cockdezl

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posted October 07, 2000 07:46 PM

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"sugar is very chemically similar to cocaine"

????? How is sugar (which one, by the way) even remotely similar in chemistry to cocaine (benzoylecgonine)?


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted October 09, 2000 12:21 PM

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quote:
Originally posted by cockdezl:
"sugar is very chemically similar to cocaine"

????? How is sugar (which one, by the way) even remotely similar in chemistry to cocaine (benzoylecgonine)?


I'd like to know that as well....gonna hit the market and start my new buisness if thats true


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MR. BMJ

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posted October 09, 2000 08:23 PM

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I'm with Cockdezl and the AGENT on this one too. The closest chemical formula to cocaine that I can think of is that of "atropine", which is also in the amine group. Sugar is not even close.


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MS

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posted October 10, 2000 02:58 PM

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So SHAGWELL, have you tried the stuff yet? What did you think?


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susty

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posted October 10, 2000 05:05 PM

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stevia is a wonderful alternative to sugar,i work in a health food store and it is very popular as a sugar replacement...never any complaints.....i find it very hard to believe that it would cause testicular shrinkage(though not impossible i suppose)
as for using aspartame instead,i would advise against it....its been PROVEN to cause brain damage as well as do a wide variety of nasty things to the human body in general.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted October 11, 2000 10:48 AM

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MS...not yet but gonna try...I'm an aspartame and ace K kinda girl now....but looking for love in new places

Susty...what research was done on aspartame and humans that caused brain damage? link? I read all this bad stuff about aspartame...but no research....I check the research...nothing...then I continue to sip my aspartame tea


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MS

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posted October 11, 2000 02:12 PM

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The issue of 'research' is a hot and contentious one. There is not much reproducible, peer reviewed, scientific research that indicates aspartame is particularly bad for you. This is remarkable considering the large volume of research that's been done, and the number of years aspartame has been used in the industrialized nations. But there is a plethora of non-scientific, non peer reviewed anecdotal evidence that aspartame is very bad for you. On the other side of the coin is stevia. There is not much research on it yet, but the research that has been done shows that it is possibly mutagenic, may decrease testosterone levels and testicle size, stimulates the release of insulin if your blood sugar is normal to high, and can decrease blood pressure, probably by acting as a diuretic/sodium depleting chemical. Now some of these side effects can be a good thing, especially if you're hypertensive, type 2 diabetic, have prostrate cancer or tend to retain water from a high sodium diet. But they are side effects never-the-less. On top of that, stevia has not undergone the test of time in the west, though it has been used widely in Japan for 20 years. Not taking any sides here, just letting you know the current state of research so you can make your own informed decisions.


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lonewulf

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posted October 11, 2000 03:35 PM

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Thanks MS, I dont think anyone was going to believe my testicular shrinkage bit. I'll stick to aspartame and the brain damage! Seriously, I think aspartame is very safe and stevia probably isnt terribly dangerous, but if you had a choice of drinking liquid A, with a slight possibility of testicular shrinkage, or liquid B, with no proven side effects, wouldnt you drink B?


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted October 12, 2000 11:18 AM

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I drink my aspartame fluids everyday...woun't start my day of any other way Its funny because I get so many people telling me aspartame is bad...then I ask them for a study and they give me either nothing or an old study done or mice when they gave them outrageous dosages. I've search and reviewed alot of reserach on aspartame and have found nothing to convience me of the claims I hear....yeah go Aspartame and ace K...yummy


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MS

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posted October 12, 2000 02:35 PM

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I don't have testicles so I really could not care less about shrinkage. It's one of those guy things I'll never understand. I thought the only thing that matters is penis size!! I certainly don't care what size my partners testicles are. They're not exactly useful if you don't want to make babies, and they're not particularly attractive either. But I digress....this is a diet discusssion board.


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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted October 12, 2000 04:58 PM

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I'm with you MS...Its the twig..not the berries thats important

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posted October 17, 2000 03:04 AM

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thats ok SHAGWELL.......my TITANS are looking mighty "Titanic" as far as going into a another (dare i say it) SUPERBOWL!.......yes, the Steelers beat the Jets and that kinda sucked for me to watch, but, Miami isnt gonna go anywhere this year. when they had Marino, they couldn't even do a helluva lot. nah, Miami will finish8-8 or 9-7 at best,...of coarse, behind the team that will sweep them this year, AGAIN: the NEW YORK JETS! heehee! my prediction for the Super Bowl? easy: a repeat of last year Titan vs. Rams with the Titans spanking the shit outta the Rams. the Rams have no defense just offense. the Titans have BOTH...a freaky defense AND a high scoring offense! ITS.....ITS.....ITS.....TITAN TIME!!!!!!! peace!!

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AGENT SHAGWELL

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posted October 17, 2000 11:56 AM

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Extreme...sugar you postin fooball on the diet board..on my stevia post. I'll talk shit with you anyday, but let do it on the chat board my little pinched nerve Testeverde


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lizzy

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posted October 19, 2000 12:39 AM

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I find stevia is fine in small amounts. In larger quantities it has an unpleasant taste. I prefer fructose as a sweetner. It is still processed and has all the calories which come with sugar but it doesn't wreak havoc with your blood glucose and insulin levels the way that sucrose does.


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cockdezl

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posted October 19, 2000 08:56 PM

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"as for using aspartame instead,i would advise against it....its been PROVEN to cause brain damage as well as do a wide variety of nasty things to the human body in general."

I'll bet the anti-cell-phone people, and anti-high-voltage power-line people are pretty pissed that Nutrasweet has been "PROVEN" to cause brain-damage. They won't be able to sue anybody now.


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vlaovic

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posted October 21, 2000 11:46 PM

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LOL

love your posts - good to have someone with true scientific and empirical knowledge on the board - sort of like the bullshit police!
I usually learn a thing or two every time your name comes up on a board.
- that's just my 2 cents


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Laserdude

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posted November 05, 2000 03:10 AM

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I for one have never trusted any of the sugar
replacements. I have never used silvia (correct spelling?) but I have used turbinado
and it is just fine.


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Lisa_The_Strong

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posted November 15, 2000 07:12 PM

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I love it in coffee...but, as MS said, it is an acquired taste.....hey! I said that once too....I've tried it in with a bowl of cereal with cold milk and it's yuk.....so, my conclusion is, if you have it with something hot, it tastes OK>.


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posted November 16, 2000 06:45 AM

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Stevia is said to be 300 times sweeter than aspartame. I have used it on my oatmeal and and some of my protein drinks already have it in it. I think that until i hear something negative i will continue to use it.

I stay away from Aspartame!

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