I had to drive 900 miles because it was my first and since I'm new to the game I'm not up on the internet ordering so I got some from my best friend who just came in to them by way of his sister's boyfriend. BTW, his source told him the same thing about seeing the gains 4 to 5 weeks in, which is why I too was surprised to see my results. Some may cry bull shit, but if I feel like I need to prove myself, I could always find a way to get a pic of the scale (where you can see that there is clearly nothing else on the scale except me) and doctors records around the time of my start showing my current weight.