Is this from DECA? HIGH PROLACTIN, 4 months after.

[dylangemelli]

how can you say the test number is good at his age?? i don't follow that... that's really low for a 23 year old... i can't really gauge as to why the estrogen is so low, its quite strange but im sorry, that test level is really low... its not good at all...

 

[Elvia1023]

how can you say the test number is good at his age?? i don't follow that... that's really low for a 23 year old... i can't really gauge as to why the estrogen is so low, its quite strange but im sorry, that test level is really low... its not good at all...

Is number is very low for his age but I am taking into account he hasn't recovered form his cycle properly. But recovery will happen with more time. Many times people throw drugs at a problem when time could be just as much of a healer. Perhaps the deca has prolonged his suppression and that fact he never run a proper pct. All in all that number is not that bad taking everything into consideration. Moreover I can see it rising over the next few months.

He didn't have a baseline number so that makes things more awkward. But low test is low test so if he were tested again in say 2 months and the number was similar then we have a problem. As you say that number is terrible for a guy his age but there are lots of factors involved. I have seen guys which much lower numbers a few months post cycle. The reasons are always the same... either strong compounds used, no pct or taking too many hormonal aids in a pct delaying natural recovery.

I would give it more time and if his test doesn't elevate then look at drugs. A prolactin med wouldn't hurt though but that number is just over baseline and I am sure it will decline in time (seen it many times in post cycle bloodwork).

OP did you get your cortisol levels tested?

 

[dylangemelli]

Is number is very low for his age but I am taking into account he hasn't recovered form his cycle properly. But recovery will happen with more time. Many times people throw drugs at a problem when time could be just as much of a healer. Perhaps the deca has prolonged his suppression and that fact he never run a proper pct. All in all that number is not that bad taking everything into consideration. Moreover I can see it rising over the next few months.

He didn't have a baseline number so that makes things more awkward. But low test is low test so if he were tested again in say 2 months and the number was similar then we have a problem. As you say that number is terrible for a guy his age but there are lots of factors involved. I have seen guys which much lower numbers a few months post cycle. The reasons are always the same... either strong compounds used, no pct or taking too many hormonal aids in a pct delaying natural recovery.

I would give it more time and if his test doesn't elevate then look at drugs. A prolactin med wouldn't hurt though but that number is just over baseline and I am sure it will decline in time (seen it many times in post cycle bloodwork).

OP did you get your cortisol levels tested?

yes, i agree he has not fully recovered... this is why i don't like deca... ESPECIALLY on younger guys... i just could never imagine being in my early 20's and having issues that deca can bring... that just ruins everything about being that age... the recovery is far too long with deca... yes, if those numbers persist, it will be a big problem...

try the things i told you to try with test boosting and they should definitely help...

 

[Elvia1023]

yes, i agree he has not fully recovered... this is why i don't like deca... ESPECIALLY on younger guys... i just could never imagine being in my early 20's and having issues that deca can bring... that just ruins everything about being that age... the recovery is far too long with deca... yes, if those numbers persist, it will be a big problem...

try the things i told you to try with test boosting and they should definitely help...

I agree deca can cause certain issues in many. Most younger guys are probably best sticking to test and sensible oral usage. There are ways to prevent deca's negative effects though. Deca is actually my fav aas. Most guys would be best with NPP if they want to use nandrolone.

 

[getbulk]

I asked for a cortisol test but it was never ordered. My theory is that the elevated prolactin from the Deca is further suppressing my natural levels. With that in mind, perhaps simply lowering my prolactin would result in higher testosterone and in turn, higher estrogen as well. "Prolactin inhibits gonadotropin secretion and therefore suppresses the hypothalamic pituitary gonadal axis and the production of testosterone."

Will def post back here in a month or so w/ the results after Dostinex. I am a bit concerned however because I took a test from labcorp which read 497 Total test, the new test from doctor is 437. I know testosterone fluctuates but my paranoi only leads me to believe the worse.

 

[Elvia1023]

I asked for a cortisol test but it was never ordered. My theory is that the elevated prolactin from the Deca is further suppressing my natural levels. With that in mind, perhaps simply lowering my prolactin would result in higher testosterone and in turn, higher estrogen as well. "Prolactin inhibits gonadotropin secretion and therefore suppresses the hypothalamic pituitary gonadal axis and the production of testosterone."

Will def post back here in a month or so w/ the results after Dostinex. I am a bit concerned however because I took a test from labcorp which read 497 Total test, the new test from doctor is 437. I know testosterone fluctuates but my paranoi only leads me to believe the worse.

I would just keep it simple for now and add in the dopamine agonist and see what that does. I should have asked how is your libido and sexual performance? Are you basically ok or are you having issues? There are many herbal products that will give you a massive boost such as tribulus (most brands are shit so be careful who you choose). I would make sure you are taking in sufficient amounts of zinc too. I could go on for hours with supplements but just keep it simple. A good ZMA product pre bed would be useful.

Don't worry though as you will be fine and we are here to help you out if you need it. This is so common... I hear it every week.

 

[getbulk]

Libido fluctuates quite a bit and is definitely lacking but for the most part everything functions. Could definitely use a boost as I usually get off focus and then lose erectile strength. Gf has no idea so I guess that is good.

EDIT: On my phone so didn't see everything. I'm really good about my vitamins, especially zinc. What else can you recommend? Random erections, hitting it more than X2 a day, inexistent..

 

[dylangemelli]

Libido fluctuates quite a bit and is definitely lacking but for the most part everything functions. Could definitely use a boost as I usually get off focus and then lose erectile strength. Gf has no idea so I guess that is good.

EDIT: On my phone so didn't see everything. I'm really good about my vitamins, especially zinc. What else can you recommend? Random erections, hitting it more than X2 a day, inexistent..

hcgenerate es is perfect for this... its exactly what you want and unleashed/post cycle is going to help get your test levels much higher as well, along with hcgenerate... i think these are your best options... you could also add clomid as well... you don't want nolva because your prolactin is already high, so you could do dostinex, clomid, hcgenerate es and unleashed/post cycle 4 weeks...

 

[Elvia1023]

Libido fluctuates quite a bit and is definitely lacking but for the most part everything functions. Could definitely use a boost as I usually get off focus and then lose erectile strength. Gf has no idea so I guess that is good.

EDIT: On my phone so didn't see everything. I'm really good about my vitamins, especially zinc. What else can you recommend? Random erections, hitting it more than X2 a day, inexistent..

Sopharma Tribestan would be a good one. You can get that easily online.

We sell tadalafil (Cialis). That won't increase libido but it will give you amazing erections. It lasts nearly 2 days too. You just drink it and you are gtg. Similar to viagra but I get no side effects (I do with Viagra) and it lasts much longer. The difference will be huge I can assure you. It's only very cheap too. It will lower blood pressure so if you have low blood pressure that may be a concern. Otherwise you will be gtg with 1ml per day when you feel you need it(30ml per bottle).

 

[Nelson Montana]

Some Tribulus and DHEA may help increase estrogen to a healthier level.