(G/F)I finally got myself a training partner( IRISH question for ya)

[Cubanito17]

Well guys from november til yesterday I always trained on my own of course I'd have my brother to spot me in b/w sets if it was my ME day but he's more worried about SIZE and pussy shit like that. So I got a new training partner not sure if she will be able to spot me very well(and yes I said SHE). Last WED me and my g/f were talking and she was saying that why wouldn't I go do that meet AUG 10,2002 and I told her the reasons how I wasn't well rested I had missed too many workouts and they were mostly ME SQ/DL(the thing i'm best at i miss that workout) so I was gonna go ahead and do the DEC 1 meet. So she goes to me "I wanna start lifting with you" at first I thought she was joking so I went on the womens board and asked round for routines for women and Spatts A great women told me WESTSIDE she trains that way why not her.

Well yesterday was her first time lifting westside(partially) I wanted to start her off light and to get form down which is very important so I told her how my routine normally went and she liked the idea, upset for speed bench she doesn't wanna hurt her boobs , So we were talking after yesterdays workout and when we came back to my house I was curious and checked out the records for her age and weight division right now she would fall under 16-17 year old 123lb division well the APA records for that weight class are SQ105/ BP105/ DL185. NOW the reason this shocked me is b/c she already squats 175 her BP is up to I believe she did 90lbs and her DL she's never done it before but I'm sure it's around 135 or 145 she plays softball so her legs are strong. So when she saw the records she asked me if I was gonna compete in DEC 1 in the APA and I told her yes (the meet on DEC 1 the one in daytona is APA right??? ) well she told me that she's gonna compete with me.

So now I have a training partner and a meet partner. The only bad thing bout training with her is that she isn't the type of girl that can stay angry at all or get pissed she's always smiling and happy so I was trying to get in the zone yesterday for my ME excercise and when I started with my huffing and puffing and yelling she looked at me and started laughing and goes "oh shit not that again" so i got out of it and had to start to get myself pumped all over again.

IRISH(or anyone else that can help) I hope you read this I know you told me how to clean up my diet well she's got a lil bit of a gut it's like a minor thing but she does want to get rid of it and trust me I wouldn't mind it being gone either (for my health I hope she doesn't read this, luv ya hun)alien: I'm dead) how should a women diet I was thinking on training days 1g/carbs per lb BW protein everyday 1g/lb BW and fat very minimal and then on non training days the carbs brought down to .75g or .50g(if she can handle it). She doesn't eat like throughout the day alot either way but she does eat shitty foods which i'm starting to change.

thanks for any help guys and please feel free to comment for the women on here if you can help me out with what you do training westside compared to your b/fs or husbands differently that WOULD help A TON

 

[Deciever]

thats awesome that you have a training partner... and i wish i was a female.. i'd be elite that'd be so cool

as for dieiting, load her up on flax seed oil, and i would say keep the carbs pretty low, protien and fat high to moderate. she can even do CARDIO (yes, sex counts as cardio).

 

[spatts]

Haha! I LOVE it!

Didn't I giveyou a diet before? Does she want the numbers or does she want to re ripped? Either way I think she should carb rotate...eat big on training days so she can hit the numbers then taper back on non training days. In case you missed...

My cutting diet looked like this:

http://home.swbell.net/arkaynen/cutting.htm

You would have to alter the times by when you train, and cycle the carbs 3 days low (.5g/kg body weight) and 2 days high (2.0g/kg body weight), or high on training days and low on non training days. The diet in the link represents the 100g CHO median.

1Kg = 2.2046 lbs

 

[p03t1c]

when i need to lose weight or my training partner (female) does, we normally up the protein and lower the carbs. i try to keep the fat in moderation and not slam down all the sausage and bacon i can eat. this should work especially on your given timeline. it's a pain in the ass for most people the first week, but after that, it just becomes routine. also, i do eat more carbs on workout days then on non workout days.

 

[IrishPower]

yeah... what poetic said!!

eating is not rocket science... its amazing how many people screw it up.

always get lots of protein, fat is better than sugar, and a moderate amount of complex carbs is ok.

if she is trying to really lean up, cut way down on the carbs, but strength levels will drop some.

make sure you watch what is happening strength and appearance wise, and adjust caloric intake up or down.

good luck.

/irish

 

[spatts]

Yep, those are pretty accurate summaries of the diet in my link. The only reason I add the rotation is so I can drop fat fast and still hit my lifts. I've hit 8% several times on over 2000cals. That would choke most figure competitors. Like Irish said, keep it simple.

 

[Hannibal]

So when she saw the records she asked me if I was gonna compete in DEC 1 in the APA and I told her yes (the meet on DEC 1 the one in daytona is APA right??? ) well she told me that she's gonna compete with me.

So now I have a training partner and a meet partner. The only bad thing bout training with her is that she isn't the type of girl that can stay angry at all or get pissed she's always smiling and happy so I was trying to get in the zone yesterday for my ME excercise and when I started with my huffing and puffing and yelling she looked at me and started laughing and goes "oh shit not that again" so i got out of it and had to start to get myself pumped all over again.

The Southern States in Dec is an APF meet. Thats no reason for her not to compete.

And as for her laughing at you getting "psyched" or whatever...she'll get used to it. Be Intense, or Be Somewhere Else. I can be a pretty intense individual to train with...at least on the main moves of the day. Once I get into accesory work I'm laughing and joking around. You almost have to have an alter ego in the gym....nothing that happens there should be personal. If it was the first time she has lifted with you...give her some time.

 

[spatts]

I dunno...some people "get psyched up" and some people just put on a show. It can be rediculous. I say if you're using your air properly, you will be less likely to sound like a wild beast.

On the other hand...ask The Project about my bad case of "scary face" sometime.

 

[Hannibal]

i dunno...some people "get psyched up" and some people just put on a show. It can be rediculous. I say if you're using your air properly, you will be less likely to sound like a wild beast.

I would tend to agree. Getting slapped in the face before a lift...or headbutting the bar seem a bit extreme. I guess it is just a matter of whatever works for you.

 

[FREAK19]

If I was you, I would have my girl start off with the basics. Ill make her build a foundation first. Since she plays softball I assume she worksout. But she doesnt train for powerlifting. In other words. Have her pull deads for a couple weeks or months, If she hasnt pulled before then her form is gonna need some work. Cause bad form can really fuck her day up trust me. Let her build up her squat and bench as well. Like my uncle always tells me "You got to build your foundation, before you lay your bricks."
So let her build up her strength level, first and then I guess put her on westside.
That meet in dec would be perfect for her to do, as a first meet. There will be some big names there. And there might not be alot of teen girls there competing, maybe just a few.
And as far as this diet thing goes, I thought I was looking at a bodybuilding forum. I never seen so many so called powerlifters talk about a diet, and how many carbs, for this and that. I think its funny.
And about the getting yourself pumped. Dont worry about it, she will get use to it. And as for the people that get loud and intense, Thats not putting on a show. Thats getting deep inside and finding all that anger to take out on the weight. Whats putting on a show are those that dont even compete cause there scared they might lose. So they only compete in the backyard bash.

Train Hard
-FREAK19-

 

[p03t1c]

dieting is a huge factor in powerlifting. whether you want to gain weight or lose weight, diet is always a consideration. we're trying to get past the part where you eat everything in sight to gain weight. the new generation of powerlifters want to live past their 40s and with all the complications due to a shitty diet that one has to deal with, it only makes sense to have some sort of nutrition plan in the back of your head. some guys still like the old school eat whatever, but we're moving to planned eating and a better understanding of why it's bad to sit and sweat while breathing hard under the air conditioning. there is no real reason to be a pissy slob.

 

[p03t1c]

and sense alot of us are guys here...

unless you're married or have some great qualities (money, drugs, etc.), it's alot easier to get pussy with a little better body. most chicks don't like a 300lb fat boy on top of them (no offense to the 300lb fat boys).

 

[I'D RATHER BE DEADLIFTING]

Good stuff man. I train my girlfriend, she usually trains right after us though. I have her hittin big PR's in squats and even singles on the deads after only about 5 weeks.

 

[p03t1c]

i train with my gf. on ME days, we just rotate in and then we do our own supplementals. we of course take different jumps but we generally finish around the same time. on DE days, she goes first. she does her speed and her 2nd lift before i start. during her supplementals, she helps me if i need any help (usually just holding the boards). then she helps load my dumbbells and strip weight or add on or whatever.

we've had the neighbors ask a few times if we were ok. the loud music and screaming and cussing doesn't always lend well to open ears. they just don't understand the love.

 

[spatts]

they just don't understand the love.

Beautiful. Love it.

 

[Cubanito17]

I just got my AOL working right now so Its the first time I see this since last night. First off thanks everyone.

Spatts I'll tell her about the dieting that you do and yes she does want to slim down and have the model look to her not cut that she loses her chest.

Han it was the first time for her lifting with me well actually the second time the very first time was a ME SQ/DL day and she freaked after I was up to(305newPR, then325 newPR, then 345newPR) SLDL and I went up to 355. I'm sure she'll get used to it but I doubt like spatts she'll get the "scary face".
Thanks for the correction on APF I'll have to look those records up for her and myself and let her know what she has to do or somewhere around there.

Freak I don't know I asked around and people said why not start on westside, I know what ur uncle is saying about start from a foundation now she hasn't trained westside with me....yet. I've had her doing just working on form and then 5X5 of the bar to work on her form well, good enough so she can get her lifts at the meet. I'm sure she'll love if there are women lifters there especially teen women lifters.

Deciever believe it or not bro I havn't gotten to the sex part with her yet. We're stil workin on that. Either way she loves that treadmill. But when the sex does come into play she won't have to worry about the treadmill.

Poetic thanks for the diet help and I'm glad i'm not the only one that trains with their g/f. I think it might be cool actually, who knows now she'll know why on ME days I don't feel like goin out and i just wanna stay home and watch a movie. Damn i'm sore as I type, I think i pinched my shoulder blades TOO MUCH yesterday.

Irish thanks man I'll make sure to keep that diet up for her and hopefully she'll listen to me, she ate dinner at my house tonight and dinner was PAPAs homemade pizza well that was fine but after the desert is what killed her, oh well we're teens we can't help it. I stayed away from the dessert then again I had 5 slices of pizza and I sat down at the table saying "i'm not that hungry tonight" and ate more than everyone else. Go figure

IRBD does your g/f train westside also. ????

 

[I'D RATHER BE DEADLIFTING]

I just have my girlfriend on a basic push/pull/legs split. In March I am doing the same meet that I did as my first meet again. It is held at a Church and is very laid back. She is seriously thinking about doing it. That'll be ace. We have been working on her bad shoulder and just this week she finally took a barbell down to her chest in the flat bench position with no pain. So, by the time the meet rolls around we should have her moving some weight on those.

 

[Cubanito17]

THanks IRBD well I think i'ma take somewhat of FREAKS advice and start her on the basics not Speed bench just yet I'll stil have her do a modified westside routine as for myself i'm gonna try it too I did a minicycle with the speed bench again and wasn't happy so i'm thinking until I start seeing that I can't gain anything anymore then i'll do speed bench while i'm stil new and young i'll do raw benching.

For the women out there what are some of your numbers, stats, and years of training?????She's interested(sittin here right next to me)

 

[TheProject]

Hm...I sprinted for 17 years, then did some "bikini" stuff, and then 1 year of BB training. Been training for PL for 3 1/2 months. Benching around 200, dead around 400 (??), and squat around 300 (??). Lifts quoted are clean and raw. I'm 5'9'', hover between 175-185 depending on water weight, about 16-18% bf...is that what she's looking for?

hmm....bikini stuff...

 

[Cubanito17]

Spatts sounds great.

Well today we worked out again DE bench day. And guess what I'm not the least bit surprised she's not gonna powerlift anymore.

We were talking and it's tru i mean she doesn't have the ambition yet too and I don't think that starting her with a advanced training method is a good idea anyway.

She MAINLY and she pointed this out to me wants to TONE up so I guess I'm just gonna put her on the BB type workouts with flys, DB presses, pec decks, leg press, leg curls, tri pushdowns, etc. How much time should she do cardio ??????? Spatts I really wanna thank you for tryin to help me out with her. I think in the future if we're stil together she will change her mind.

Your stats are amazing for a women, no offense to u b/c of the women thing, but stil amazing.

 

[FREAK19]

See I told you, Get her on the basics. I know what im talking about. And as far as the cardio thing she can do from 30-45mins of cardio. My Aunt does 15 before and 15 after on days she doenst have her spinning class. When she spins I think she does 15 before im not sure because her spin class is tough.

 

[Hannibal]

Spatts sounds great. Your stats are amazing for a women, no offense to u b/c of the women thing, but stil amazing.

I think just saying...Spatts is amazing...would suffice.

Even if it would be a bit of an understatement...

 

[Cubanito17]

Ye thanks freak, well after tonight (hope she doesn't read this) I don't know how much longer we're gonna be together she's been givin me ALOT of shit lately and I can only put up wit so much and I can't stand thinkin that she's cheatin on me. BUT this isn't Jerry springer so i'll have her stick to the basics.

 

[p03t1c]

here is what happened to me. i started training with my gf cause i like to have a workout partner. she started doing bb stuff back when i was doing bb stuff. she only wanted to workout her legs. that is it. as she got used to it, she also began to like the other stuff. then we started training at home and i slowly bought equipment. next we switched to westside and she liked it at first because the workouts are like 45mins to an hour long rather than 2 hours. but now she just loves powerlifting. we went to a westside seminar where she was the only female. it's just a process. you cant do it all at once. let her do what she wants to do and then just put in her mind how good powerlifting is. she doesnt have to look like a monster.

 

[Cubanito17]

thanks man well i guess good luck with trianing with your women and training.