Loll sir you're on a little roid rage. If read what I said properly, I didn't say specifically say that clean meals will ensure you're in a surplus, but more the less 6-8 meals that are clean, if you want the cleanest gains possible whilst keeping yourself as healthy as you can. with the exception of 1-2 or a few more cheat meals a week depending on how your body can take them and your metabolism etc. Just think about it, if you were to eat 4 meals a day, that's like what a meal every 3.5-4 hours? 6-8 meals eating every 2.5-3 hours to keep your body in an anabolic/anti-catabolic state all day round is a better option. Why do you think pros or majority of bodybuilders set a base and say 6 meals a day?