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Are You Ready For Steroids?

partagus

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It’s getting late on a boring Sunday night and I just wanted to share some thoughts. If you have NEVER used steroids, then you may find this helpful.

When I first found this site, I didn’t know anything about gear, other than I wanted to use some. I thought I could inject some test into my body and then a few weeks later, I would have this amazing body. I didn’t know anything about a proper diet, a solid workout program or PCT. But I’ve learned.

There was a guy I was talking to at the gym recently, and he said he wanted to do some gear. I asked him what his plan was. He told me that once he started gear, he would only eat good, healthy food. He would do 100 push-ups in the morning, workout in the afternoon and do 100 more push-ups at night before bed. He said he would spend two hours a day in the gym, five days a week.

Needless to say, I was impressed. I asked him, what he ate for breakfast. He told me he was running late and just stopped at McDonalds. I asked him if he did his 100 push-ups this morning and he said, no, he didn’t do it. I asked him how many days a week he was coming to the gym and he said two or three. Not consistently, but usually at least two or three days a week. I asked him why he was waiting to start gear BEFORE he actually started working-out. He didn’t have an answer. This got me thinking.

For new people, that have never used gear, I would recommend trying a “Pre-cycle” cycle. Design it around what you plan on running for your first cycle. For example, if you plan on your first cycle being 10 weeks long, then run your pre-cycle for 10 weeks.

Pretend you’re using gear for ten weeks. Eat like you are on cycle, sleep like you are on cycle, and train like you are on cycle. Dedicate yourself so that when you finally do decide to run your first cycle, you’ll know exactly what to expect. You’ll know that you can dedicate yourself to eating a good, solid, clean diet for ten weeks. You’ll know you can get into the gym constantly for ten weeks. You get the point.

Speaking of expectations, spend a lot more time researching your cycle before you do it. I see posts all the time from people that are running their first cycle and have been on test for two weeks and they are wondering when they will see results. Take time to understand the compounds you are putting into your body and how they are supposed to react. Keep your expectations real. Don’t expect to start your cycle looking like Tom Arnold, and then ten weeks later, expect to look like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

If you’re going to run gear, take the time to do it right. I haven’t crossed over to the dark side yet. But before I do, I am going to try the “Pre-Cycle” Cycle. Oh yeah, and if you’re under the age of 25, WAIT BEFORE YOU USE STEROIDS.
 
Good post bro. Emphasis on PCT.
 
Nice new concept bro. Think I will make this a sticky for a wile. We can expand on the concept and send new people to the thread for a wile. I think we can get the vets to get new people trying this. Great thread.
 
I was basically just what you described, and did M & F's monthy routines too. Got on here to find out what to get and found out I was clueless so I opted to wait to do gear and learned about REAL lifting, nutrition, ect. Glad found this site or I might have done some serious and permanent damage.
I like the concept, but I always figured you needed to be more sound when OFF gear if there was gonna be a difference. Since you don't have the exogenous "boost" so to say.
 
sugashane said:
I like the concept, but I always figured you needed to be more sound when OFF gear if there was gonna be a difference. Since you don't have the exogenous "boost" so to say.
Nope, don't go there. You start thinking that way, you'll start to think that the "boost" will let you get away with things... like eating crap or skipping workouts. That's the whole point.

We're in the season where kids who just took their finals are heading for the beach, and they're all here looking for that "boost" you're talking about... the "magic pill" that is going to turn a beer belly into a six-pack. The pill or the shot that is going to do all the work for them. They don't want to hear that if they're not going to the gym and they're not eating right, all the "boost" in the world is just going to bounce around inside them screwing up what was once a relatively healthy (if underworked) metabolism.

Partagus nailed it. This isn't grading on the curve -- it's pass/fail. If you can't make it to the gym or eat decent food in sufficient quantities, it's time to look at your goals, and stop kidding yourself that the "boost" will make up for the things you aren't doing.
 
digger said:
Nope, don't go there. You start thinking that way, you'll start to think that the "boost" will let you get away with things... like eating crap or skipping workouts. That's the whole point.

We're in the season where kids who just took their finals are heading for the beach, and they're all here looking for that "boost" you're talking about... the "magic pill" that is going to turn a beer belly into a six-pack. The pill or the shot that is going to do all the work for them. They don't want to hear that if they're not going to the gym and they're not eating right, all the "boost" in the world is just going to bounce around inside them screwing up what was once a relatively healthy (if underworked) metabolism.

Partagus nailed it. This isn't grading on the curve -- it's pass/fail. If you can't make it to the gym or eat decent food in sufficient quantities, it's time to look at your goals, and stop kidding yourself that the "boost" will make up for the things you aren't doing.

I understand what you mean, and I know eating like crap or skiping workouts wouldn't be beneficial, regardless of exogenous help. Steroids are very dangerous if not used judiciously with extensive knowlege. I've stated things like that in several posts, but I did poorly word my earlier post.
What I meant though was that your food intake, proteins, carbs, and fats, wouldn't you want to change it to some degree? Protein should be even higher when "on" because of the increase of protein synthesis is what I've always thought. Because of increased strain, more muscle trauma, ect, there will be more nutrients needed to repair the extra damage? I might be overthinking but thats been my view thus far.
 
sugashane said:
I understand what you mean, and I know eating like crap or skiping workouts wouldn't be beneficial, regardless of exogenous help. Steroids are very dangerous if not used judiciously with extensive knowlege. I've stated things like that in several posts, but I did poorly word my earlier post.
What I meant though was that your food intake, proteins, carbs, and fats, wouldn't you want to change it to some degree? Protein should be even higher when "on" because of the increase of protein synthesis is what I've always thought. Because of increased strain, more muscle trauma, ect, there will be more nutrients needed to repair the extra damage? I might be overthinking but thats been my view thus far.
This thread is more about ones dedication level then anything else. Before ou jump into a cycle, try learning about diet and exercise. Get it right and be honest with yourself. Can you right out a strict diet and exercise plan and then stick to that plan for 10 weeks.

No not just saying ya I could do it,but do it and be honest about if you did it or not. At the end of this 10 weeks did you see some great gains or not? Did you stick the the plan 100% or not.
 
Excellent post. Great advice. The funny thing is, if it's "gains" that you want there are plenty of things that'll give results that people forgo just to try the gear. Remember, the more you put on naturally, the more you'll put on after you use gear. The sooner you use it, the sooner your gains will come to a halt.

And yes, take advantage of every moment you're in an anabolic state. This is why I go crazy when I hear people saying that gear doesn't kick in for 3 weeks. And if you're on for 16 weeks, there's no way you're going to train full out that entire time. You're not fooling anyone but yourself. Be smart. If you're going to do it, do it right.
 
awsome post. ive been consistent with my training and diet since 2004 when i started working out. Ive also been doing my research and asking questions. Learning what works with what and what does each compound do. Im finally getting ready to cross over and im so excited.
I also think that post is more than just using gear. I think it covers just the whole aspect of working out, as far dudes comming up with all these goals and plans and not even touching a weight or a slim dude saying he is not gaining any weight, eats all the time and then you find out he is eating twice or three times a day and its usually crap and fast food.
 
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