they are taking from duchaine, who personally had poor results from win... may people respond very well to it... people who dont are either due to liver issues (which vary from 17aa to 17aa) or to negative reaction to the anti-progestin effects of stanozolol.
I think this statement was taken from my comments on the strong HDL cholesterol suppression noted with Winny (and other c17aa's). Not sure though. I only wrote the book, not the ad..
I was aware of that BUT i think that what you said is NOT known by almost all the dudes on this forum....many seem to think that if it is injected it is okay. Good Tip....Can I e-mail you bro?
The only thing I've see of any real help was Nolvadex, which acts as an estrogen in the liver to increase HDL. It still works best when taken with non c-17aa injectables however.