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first off, the r-ala is my favorite product hands down!
major difference with it than without it.

second, thermorexin is the shit times 1000!!!!
burns fat like nothing else.

last, the new creatine.. PURECEE.... FUCKIN AYE THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY!!
 
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T-rex and YES worked great.. couldn't afford Glucr , but when used it, it worked good. def going to being using the T-rex/ Liv/ Yes combo for this summers comtest diet
 
you wont be dissapointed..
the r-ala is a must if cutting or bulkin.. i say A MUST!
 
Whats the main function of r-ala, Satch? I thought alpha lop-something acid was a liver aid, but I've been known to be wrong on supps. Does it aid in fat mobilization? Thanks for educating bro.
 
idcbp said:
Whats the main function of r-ala, Satch? I thought alpha lop-something acid was a liver aid, but I've been known to be wrong on supps. Does it aid in fat mobilization? Thanks for educating bro.
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R alpha Lipoic Acid helps shuttle carbohydrates into your muscle cells instead of your fat cells by increasing insulin sensitivity and the uptake of glucose. its good stuff...most pure on the market..also a very potent antioxident
 
bicepts101 said:
R alpha Lipoic Acid helps shuttle carbohydrates into your muscle cells instead of your fat cells by increasing insulin sensitivity and the uptake of glucose. its good stuff...most pure on the market..also a very potent antioxident
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yes indeed a very strong liver protectant...

when taking oral steroids this is my liver protectan arsenale (misp?)

r-ala
milk thistle
liv-52
garlic tabs
taurine
 
satchboogie said:
yes indeed a very strong liver protectant...

when taking oral steroids this is my liver protectan arsenale (misp?)

r-ala
milk thistle
liv-52
garlic tabs
taurine
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you could cancle out milk thistle with tylers liver detox...it already has some in it plus a HUGE arsenal of other goodies

also ive never heard of garlic doing anything for the liver. blood pressure yes, liver no...i could be wrong though

taurine is good so is biotin which is in G-R already if that what u are using
 
garlics consitituents have been shown to have positive impact on liver, both in pahse 1 and phase 2 compounds... though doses used have been quite high... so while it will have a benefit its likely somewhat minimal.
 
What is everybody noticing with the r-ala? better pumps, more vasc. any size gains, etc, just curious. thanx
 
INNOCENT said:
yes, great products, love the cardio breeze also.
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Yeah...I like CB also. Just used it twice for my weights w/o & definitely noticed a difference in strength. Don't seem to need it for my cardio w/o...but then I've never had an aversion to cardio...go figure!
Currently take 4 tabs before my w/o...I seem to have a high resistance to supps that's why I upped the dosage beyond the recommended.
 
My Gloucrell-R arrived today, thanks for such a quick delivery AF Store. Quick questions please, do I only take it with carb meals?

My T-rex doesn't have a dosage on it as and when to take it, can anyone advise please. Also can T-rex be used by a 14 year old?

My Yohimburn hasn't arrived yet and it's it I'm looking forward to the most to see if it can attack the old dogs fatty chest.... :qt:
 
No do not give a 14 year old t-rex
ed2005 said:
My Gloucrell-R arrived today, thanks for such a quick delivery AF Store. Quick questions please, do I only take it with carb meals?

My T-rex doesn't have a dosage on it as and when to take it, can anyone advise please. Also can T-rex be used by a 14 year old?

My Yohimburn hasn't arrived yet and it's it I'm looking forward to the most to see if it can attack the old dogs fatty chest.... :qt:
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Shit! The other day I went to a Brazilian Steakhouse. Basically all you can eat for $50. Anyways...I took about 10 caps of Glucrorell. Went and ate every type of meat and carb they had. I even had shit loads of desserts. I left the restaurant and 30 minutes later almost fell asleep driving home! I got home and knocked out for 2 hours. But when I woke up...MAN!!! Was I fucking hard!!! I could not move! My muscles were dense!!!! r-ALA is a must!!!
 
muscleup said:
No do not give a 14 year old t-rex
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Can you ellaborate on this Muscleup please? I've read the ingredients and with the exception of caffiene everything else seems natural.. ie. vits and mins, etc.
 
ed2005 said:
Can you ellaborate on this Muscleup please? I've read the ingredients and with the exception of caffiene everything else seems natural.. ie. vits and mins, etc.
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14 is really too young to be taking fairly strong stimulants. And natural does not mean that its meant for everyone.
 
satchboogie said:
last, the new creatine.. PURECEE.... FUCKIN AYE THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY!!
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Snif... Snif... My boy is growing up :) I cant remember back when CEE was an unknown in your part of the world, I told ya !!!!! With that said, you just convinced me to try the other's, keep growing bro !
 
Carth said:
Shit! The other day I went to a Brazilian Steakhouse. Basically all you can eat for $50. Anyways...I took about 10 caps of Glucrorell. Went and ate every type of meat and carb they had. I even had shit loads of desserts. I left the restaurant and 30 minutes later almost fell asleep driving home! I got home and knocked out for 2 hours. But when I woke up...MAN!!! Was I fucking hard!!! I could not move! My muscles were dense!!!! r-ALA is a must!!!
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Shouldn't the Glucorell prevented you from falling asleep in the first place (sign of insulin resitance) ?
 
Whacked said:
Shouldn't the Glucorell prevented you from falling asleep in the first place (sign of insulin resitance) ?
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Maybe the Glucorell sucked all the sugar out of me and knocked me out! Got me hypo! But man! I woke up fucking hard as a rock!!!
 
hard to say what exact metabolic processes that occured...with a large amount of food and high dose like that it could be a number of metabolic shifts/impacts. could have been hyper/then hypo or hypo then hyper then hypo again depedning on the rate of food digestion and a hot of other factors.

that said regardless of shifts in blood sugar and insulin fat storage will be mediated beneficially.
 
hey where exactly is the R-ALA on the AF site, couldn't find it
 
gjohnson5 said:
Don't you mean decreasing insulin sensitivity??? Increased insulin sensirivity = type 2 diabetes
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naw, decreasing insulin sensitvity =type 2.

HGH increases insulin sensitivity. that's why it's a great combo with insulin.
 
So help me out a little bro's, while I am on, I should be taking R-ala? Or should I wait to get off my cycle, Never heard of it till a few days ago, been doin some research, just want to know if I can take it while I am on, thx
 
Bigredcanecorso said:
So help me out a little bro's, while I am on, I should be taking R-ala? Or should I wait to get off my cycle, Never heard of it till a few days ago, been doin some research, just want to know if I can take it while I am on, thx
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On or off you should take it before your carb meals. It accelerates the regeneration of liver cells and helps keep the carbs you eat from making you fat from high insulin levels.
 
Ulter, Macro....How much of a delay can i expect if i ship to an address different than the one the cc company has?
thanks
 
macrophage69alpha said:
OT: what is the deal with all the "mad bombings" of members?
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It's by those idiots in the chat and conversation forum. And once they start, some of the people who contribute to this board joined in. Assholes...
 
macrophage69alpha said:
OT: what is the deal with all the "mad bombings" of members?
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I've said once before that karma here is totally reverse from what it should be. You , Macro, should have a million karma for your knowledge of the game and the advise you give people. I know elite moderator you can probably set your karma to whatever you wish but you should have it despite that.

On the contrary those that spend all day talkin' shit on chat have the most karma. People who probably don't know hrt from hst. Silly in my opinion , but the problem is that those in chat have the ability to bomb member who ARE involved in training , supplementation, or medical issues. One person said that karma is an indicator of popularity. This is total nonsense. Those who have little karma want to be hit by those who do have alot of karma in order to increase thier own. Those who do have alot are very picky and choosy who they hit. I'm at the point of thinking karma should be eliminated and just having bombs for stupidity.

Atleast karma should have a "fudge factor" where as if you BS on chat you only get 1/10 the karma of training or steroid forums. This is elite fitness not elite BS , but you couldn't tell by looking at peoples karma. I think there should also be a limit to how many posts a person can give karma on from some specific boards. That would really alleviate people just sitting on chat and not promoting fitness related issues.
 
gjohnson5 said:
I've said once before that karma here is totally reverse from what it should be. You , Macro, should have a million karma for your knowledge of the game and the advise you give people. I know elite moderator you can probably set your karma to whatever you wish but you should have it despite that.

On the contrary those that spend all day talkin' shit on chat have the most karma. People who probably don't know hrt from hst. Silly in my opinion , but the problem is that those in chat have the ability to bomb member who ARE involved in training , supplementation, or medical issues. One person said that karma is an indicator of popularity. This is total nonsense. Those who have little karma want to be hit by those who do have alot of karma in order to increase thier own. Those who do have alot are very picky and choosy who they hit. I'm at the point of thinking karma should be eliminated and just having bombs for stupidity.

Atleast karma should have a "fudge factor" where as if you BS on chat you only get 1/10 the karma of training or steroid forums. This is elite fitness not elite BS , but you couldn't tell by looking at peoples karma. I think there should also be a limit to how many posts a person can give karma on from some specific boards. That would really alleviate people just sitting on chat and not promoting fitness related issues.
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couldnt agree more
 
gjohnson5 said:
I've said once before that karma here is totally reverse from what it should be. You , Macro, should have a million karma for your knowledge of the game and the advise you give people. I know elite moderator you can probably set your karma to whatever you wish but you should have it despite that.

On the contrary those that spend all day talkin' shit on chat have the most karma. People who probably don't know hrt from hst. Silly in my opinion , but the problem is that those in chat have the ability to bomb member who ARE involved in training , supplementation, or medical issues. One person said that karma is an indicator of popularity. This is total nonsense. Those who have little karma want to be hit by those who do have alot of karma in order to increase thier own. Those who do have alot are very picky and choosy who they hit. I'm at the point of thinking karma should be eliminated and just having bombs for stupidity.

Atleast karma should have a "fudge factor" where as if you BS on chat you only get 1/10 the karma of training or steroid forums. This is elite fitness not elite BS , but you couldn't tell by looking at peoples karma. I think there should also be a limit to how many posts a person can give karma on from some specific boards. That would really alleviate people just sitting on chat and not promoting fitness related issues.
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totally!
 
macrophage69alpha said:
OT: what is the deal with all the "mad bombings" of members?
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Its can get dangerous when you head over to the C&C board to play. One wrong look will get your bombed up.
 
gjohnson5 said:
I've said once before that karma here is totally reverse from what it should be. You , Macro, should have a million karma for your knowledge of the game and the advise you give people. I know elite moderator you can probably set your karma to whatever you wish but you should have it despite that.

On the contrary those that spend all day talkin' shit on chat have the most karma. People who probably don't know hrt from hst. Silly in my opinion , but the problem is that those in chat have the ability to bomb member who ARE involved in training , supplementation, or medical issues. One person said that karma is an indicator of popularity. This is total nonsense. Those who have little karma want to be hit by those who do have alot of karma in order to increase thier own. Those who do have alot are very picky and choosy who they hit. I'm at the point of thinking karma should be eliminated and just having bombs for stupidity.

Atleast karma should have a "fudge factor" where as if you BS on chat you only get 1/10 the karma of training or steroid forums. This is elite fitness not elite BS , but you couldn't tell by looking at peoples karma. I think there should also be a limit to how many posts a person can give karma on from some specific boards. That would really alleviate people just sitting on chat and not promoting fitness related issues.
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With the advent of the "bomb" and the karma store there are ways to mess with people. We on C&C have been told to keep the karma "games" to C&C and we do so. We don't come on to the AAS board or Training board and start dropping bombs on people. Like I said, if you come over to C&C, you never know what might happen, its not nearly as serious as some of the other boards and shit goes down.

I happen to post mostly on C&C now. Why? I don't need to do any AAS research currently (I do know what HRT and HST are and probably a lot better then most). My training routine is still working well for me so I post infrequently on the training board.

C&C has a lot of characters, its mostly there for entertainment, it can be valuable if you'd like to get someone's opinion or advice on something though.

Bottom line about bombing is this, if you are plat, you wont get bombed, you can't get bombed. Simple as that.
 
galaxy said:
1. Karma is gay

2. This place is starting to look like match.com

3. Satch I think that 1g of Primo helped a lil bit too.lol Looking good bro!
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thanks soldier..
another few years in the gym i may just be half your size... :rose:
 
Lestat said:
With the advent of the "bomb" and the karma store there are ways to mess with people. We on C&C have been told to keep the karma "games" to C&C and we do so. We don't come on to the AAS board or Training board and start dropping bombs on people. Like I said, if you come over to C&C, you never know what might happen, its not nearly as serious as some of the other boards and shit goes down.

I happen to post mostly on C&C now. Why? I don't need to do any AAS research currently (I do know what HRT and HST are and probably a lot better then most). My training routine is still working well for me so I post infrequently on the training board.

C&C has a lot of characters, its mostly there for entertainment, it can be valuable if you'd like to get someone's opinion or advice on something though.

Bottom line about bombing is this, if you are plat, you wont get bombed, you can't get bombed. Simple as that.
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I haven't responded to this for alot of reasons but...
C&C should be eliminated if it's only purpose is for you to mad bomb people like MightyMouse with your little group... I don't want to patronize you , but I think your idea of "messing" with people should be left to icq , or AIM of something like that. I think digger should have taken all your karma away if this is still the way you see things.

Anyway entertainment is good , but I question you idea of entertainment if mad bombing people is on your list of entertainment.
 
Hey guys I am a newbie to all of this, it sounds like the AF store is awesome, what products would you suggest I order for maximum fat loss?
 
gjohnson5 said:
I haven't responded to this for alot of reasons but...
C&C should be eliminated if it's only purpose is for you to mad bomb people like MightyMouse with your little group... I don't want to patronize you , but I think your idea of "messing" with people should be left to icq , or AIM of something like that. I think digger should have taken all your karma away if this is still the way you see things.

Anyway entertainment is good , but I question you idea of entertainment if mad bombing people is on your list of entertainment.
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the solution is plain and simple karma should be separated by forum. no karma you get on the c&c forum should translate to the AAS forum when you come here and vise-versa. same goes with every other forum. all of my karma has come from here. i rarely post on the c&c forum.
 
i can't even imagine how fat i'd be if it weren't for r-ala and thermo/levo.

I mean it doesn't make me "lose" weight (not enough of a caloric deficiency to spur that) -- but it sure as hell ensures i don't gain any.

if only i had this shit when i was 25. i'd still be thin as a needle!
 
ok its 5 days before the carth vs. satch thing...

i been on thermorexin, rala, YES, and a few other products from AF STORE.

all i can say is the results are unreal!
and the pics in 5 days will prove it!

that YES stuff is especially great!!!
im buying a few bottles of that for my next cutter~! :)
 
Doesn't rala get a bit expensive? :(

I mean, I use protein/creatine...and am buying a cycle soon....I guess some of us poor college kids can't have all the good supplements!

BTW, does r-ala have any negative impact on bulking? Besides gaining less fat, do you gain less muscle too?
 
satchboogie said:
ok its 5 days before the carth vs. satch thing...

i been on thermorexin, rala, YES, and a few other products from AF STORE.

all i can say is the results are unreal!
and the pics in 5 days will prove it!

that YES stuff is especially great!!!
im buying a few bottles of that for my next cutter~! :)
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:)
 
I will agree that Glucorrel-R is the shit. To give Omega some props I think his Ener-G is also a good product. I tend to mix that whenever I take a protein shake. Speaking of protein shakes I think ISOAGB is in top three if not tied for first. Great product there.

Question have you guys looking into quality comparisons with the ion exchange whey and the CFM's running about?
 
Ulter said:
On or off you should take it before your carb meals. It accelerates the regeneration of liver cells and helps keep the carbs you eat from making you fat from high insulin levels.
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????

Did you mean helps from keeping you fat from high glucose levels and not enough insulin????? R-ALA shuttles the glucose efficiently (MIMICS INSULIN to a degree).....(EITHER WAY---I DO AGREE WITH YOUR SUGGESTION)
 
will b huge said:
????

Did you mean helps from keeping you fat from high glucose levels and not enough insulin????? R-ALA shuttles the glucose efficiently (MIMICS INSULIN to a degree).....(EITHER WAY---I DO AGREE WITH YOUR SUGGESTION)
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glucose clearance is improved and plasma insulin reduced (thus high blood glucose does not occur- or at least is not maintained (with high simple carb intake BG and insulin will spike- though with R+ supplementation neither will continue )--- ie short period of spike-- the longer the spike in BG and Insulin the greater the negative impacts (glycosylation, adipose deposition, etc..)

R+ is not insulin mimetic (from its uptake and glucose clearance it appears to mimic insulin), its effects are via PPAR and AMPK.
 
gjohnson5 said:
I had the understanding that the ion exchange process ( isn't bipro ion exchange whey isolate) damages some of the proteins due to electrical used to filter the protein.

Can this "damage" be quantified in terms of the quality of the product
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Aparantly my understanding is all messed up :-)

http://www.bodybuildbid.com/articles/nutrition/whey.html

Due to the nature of the ion exchange process, the most valuable and health-promoting components are selectively depleted. Though the protein content is increased, many of the most important subfractions are lost or greatly reduced. This makes ion exchange isolates a poor choice for a true third-generation whey protein supplement, though many companies still use it as their isolate source due to the higher protein content. Ion exchange isolates can be as high as 70% or greater of the subfraction Beta-lactoglobulin, (the least interesting and most allergenic subfraction found in whey) with a loss of the more biologically active and interesting subfractions. So, the pros of an ion exchange whey is for those who simply want the very highest protein contents per gram, but the cons are that the higher protein content comes at cost; a loss of many of the subfractions unique to whey. Not an acceptable trade in my view, considering the fact that the actual protein differences between a micro filtered type isolate is minimal from that of an ion exchange.

This segues us nicely into looking at the micro filtered whey isolates. With the array of more recent processing techniques used to make WPIs-or pull out various subfractions -such as Cross Flow Micro filtration (CFM®), ultra filtration (UF), micro filtration (MF), reverse osmosis (RO), dynamic membrane filtration (DMF), ion exchange chromatography, (IEC), electro-ultrafiltration (EU), radial flow chromatography (RFC) and nano filtration (NF), manufacturers can now make some very high grade and unique whey proteins.

Perhaps the most familiar micro filtered isolate to readers would be CFM®*. Although the term "cross flow micro filtered" is something of a generic term for several similar ways of processing whey, The CFM® processing method uses a low temperature micro filtration technique that allows for the production of very high protein contents (>90%), the retention of important subfractions, extremely low fat and lactose contents, with virtually no undenatured proteins. CFM® is a natural, non-chemical process which employs high tech ceramic filters, unlike ion exchange, which involves the use of chemical reagents such as hydrochloric acid and sodium hydroxide. CFM® whey isolate also contains high amounts of calcium and low amounts of sodium.

To sum this section up:
- The pros of ion exchange isolates are extremely low fat and lactose levels, with the highest protein levels (on a gram-for-gram basis). The con-which outweighs the pros in my view-is the loss of important subfractions in favor of higher amounts of Beta-Lac.
- The pros of well-made micro filtered isolates are a high protein content (90% or above), low lactose and fat levels, very low levels of undenatured proteins, and the retention of important subfractions in their natural ratios. There really are no cons per se, unless the person wants the additional compounds discussed in the next section.

* = CFM® is a trademark (hence the annoying trade mark symbol next to whenever I write CFM) of Glanbia Nutritionals, a large dairy company based in Ireland with production in the US.


So I'm wondering if the loss is significant or not.
 
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