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test e/eq cycle advise (2nd Cyc)

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(1st was test only) on thursday 1/22/09 ill have been on 500mg test e (250mg mon/thur) for 3 weeks. Started 6'-3" 225 lbs 16% bf bmi 28. Im up 7.5 pounds and down 2% bf. Im adding 500mg/w (250mon/thur) EQ and running it for 12 weeks/ droping it 1 week before ending Test E. running hcg throughout (nolva on hand, no sides) and pct 3 weeks after last test shot for 4 weeks( hcg, nolv, sus alpha). plan on adding 50mg Winny tabs last 3 weeks and run it up to pct (6wks total). here is a sample of a day of eating, good? bad? suggs? cardio workout 6-7a.m meal 1 about 7:30 6 egg whites ,black pepper, flax seeds (ground mixed in if scrambled or into oatmeal) 2 cups cooked oatmeal w/raisins. meal 2 9-9:30 8 oz smoothie (1 cup 1% milk ,2tbsp low fat yogurt, 3/4 cup oatmeal, 2 tsb peanut butter, 2 scoops whey protein, ice--makes 16oz). meal 3 11-11:30 10oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup brown rice, cup broccoli. meal 4 1-1:30 6 oz can low sodium water packed tuna, cup fat free yogurt; meal 5 (pre work out)-3:00 8 oz smoothie. meal 6 (post work out) 5-5:30 8 oz salmon baked, cup broccoli; meal 7-7:30 2-4 slices whole-grain bread 2-4 tbsp all nat peanut butter, 2-4 tsb all nat fruit spread; meal 8 9-9:30 4 oz smoothie or 3 egg whites. roughly 4,000 cals; 350 g protein; 300 carbs; 120 gs fat; 15g sat fat; 1200 mg sodium; 50g fiber. i was only going to go w/ half of that b/c i wanted to stay lean and drop b/f but i didtn think my cals and protein were enough. any help?
 
oh on a side note, my dad is making me donate blood w/ him, trying to keep him in the dark on the aas. would this be a problem (donating on cycle). also how would loosing some of my productive blood affect my gains? could be good if red blood count is high though right? suggs. thanks guys
 
just tell your dad the last skank you banged may of gave you a going away present (STD) and are going to checked before you give blood that should freaking get him off your back about giving blood!!!LOL FMT!Oh you want your protein to be some where like 2 to 30 grams per pound of body weight if you want to keep lean just watch the carbs and keep the cardio between 30 and 60 mins day in the morning to get your body burning your fat stores instead of what you just had for breakfast! Hope that helps bro. FMT
 
lol thats actual probably not far from the truth lol he'll def buy that one, im pretty premiscuous thanks for the advice man, other than a bit more protein all is good then?
 
giving blood when on cycle is always a good idea, especially when on eq because of how much it increases red blood cells. some doctors will actually recommend this.
 
Congrats on your progress to date and agree donating blood while on will not make any difference. I have done myself a couple of times and once was actually as Dave mentioned. I was running high dose Eq and my RBC was way up so doc said to donate some blood.
 
thanks for the info on the blood test situation guys. back to the diet question, regulating my cals/protien intake and my work outs/cardio should regulate my gains correct. If for some reason i feel that in putting too much size on i could just back off the food intake and do more cardio or no?. i know lowering dosage while on is not good for levels. basically trying to regulate the speed and amount of growth so that i stay somewhat low key, i teach middle school and those little bastards are observant, already saying im using lol. thanks again guys
 
Diet (restricting protein/calories) will be the key but cardio can certainly help to.
 
(1st was test only) on thursday 1/22/09 ill have been on 500mg test e (250mg mon/thur) for 3 weeks. Started 6'-3" 225 lbs 16% bf bmi 28. Im up 7.5 pounds and down 2% bf. Im adding 500mg/w (250mon/thur) EQ and running it for 12 weeks/ droping it 1 week before ending Test E. running hcg throughout (nolva on hand, no sides) and pct 3 weeks after last test shot for 4 weeks( hcg, nolv, sus alpha). plan on adding 50mg Winny tabs last 3 weeks and run it up to pct (6wks total). here is a sample of a day of eating, good? bad? suggs? cardio workout 6-7a.m meal 1 about 7:30 6 egg whites ,black pepper, flax seeds (ground mixed in if scrambled or into oatmeal) 2 cups cooked oatmeal w/raisins. meal 2 9-9:30 8 oz smoothie (1 cup 1% milk ,2tbsp low fat yogurt, 3/4 cup oatmeal, 2 tsb peanut butter, 2 scoops whey protein, ice--makes 16oz). meal 3 11-11:30 10oz chicken breast, 1/2 cup brown rice, cup broccoli. meal 4 1-1:30 6 oz can low sodium water packed tuna, cup fat free yogurt; meal 5 (pre work out)-3:00 8 oz smoothie. meal 6 (post work out) 5-5:30 8 oz salmon baked, cup broccoli; meal 7-7:30 2-4 slices whole-grain bread 2-4 tbsp all nat peanut butter, 2-4 tsb all nat fruit spread; meal 8 9-9:30 4 oz smoothie or 3 egg whites. roughly 4,000 cals; 350 g protein; 300 carbs; 120 gs fat; 15g sat fat; 1200 mg sodium; 50g fiber. i was only going to go w/ half of that b/c i wanted to stay lean and drop b/f but i didtn think my cals and protein were enough. any help?

I think your diet is way off. If you want to lean out you need to realize a lot of the foods you are taking in are messing with your chemistry. If you want to control size and bf you have to take a look at blood sugar and insulin levels. Insulin is secreted when blood sugar levels go up. Imagine your cells are like little houses and when the get filled with insulin they lock the doors. All the insulin that is left over gets turned to fat. So if you can control blood sugar and insulin secretion then you can control fat. Avoid the processed sugars and gluten. Diary causes a huge insulin spikes. Whey protein is made from milk. You really only want big insulin spikes after a workout so avoid whey protein at any other time except post workout. Never before bed. Ditch all the gluten...wheat, rye and barley. Gluten causes big insulin spike and causes inflammation. This can lead to auto-immune problems. Avoid the peanut butter and sub in almond or cashew butter. Peanuts are legumes and have very high acid levels and can cause inflammation. Avoid smoothies packed with processed sugars. Flax seeds and oil increase insulin sensitivity and are not good. You want long chain omega 3's like those from animal based proteins...medium chain omega 3's like flax are not good. Try to get good omega 3's from cod liver oil. Oatmeal is fine. Dont throw the yolks away when eating eggs. The yolk contains all the vitamin k and d and most of the good cholesterol. Yes i said cholesterol is good! Steroids are synthesized off of cholesterol that is why they play havoc on LDL and HDL levels. You need good fats in the mix. This will help more than you know. Olive oil, avocado and tree nuts are great sources. Sub in sweet potatoes and yams. Shoot for meats, vegetables and fruit and good fats and you will lean out over night. Dont ever eat any processed foods...take a look around at the fat people you see around you...all they eat are processed foods that say non or low fat, foods with a ton of sodium. Be smart and dont waste what you are taking. I surf around and read about all the cycles most guys are on and they could do so much more and not lose gains if they understood their diets. Just because a guy taking 20 k a month in gear is eating egg whites and flax doesnt make it right. He could eat Del Taco every night and be living on jack street with all the drugs. Be smart and good luck.
 
looking good bro!

you need good clean cals if you want to stay lean.

Look up complex carbs food list on the internet, or natural carbs. Those will give you a great amount of energy and on a good G.I. will actually help you burn fat.

I like to break it down like this per meal

40% Protein
20% fat
30% Complex carbs
10% simple carbs

I actually got this from will smiths diet when he is training for a movie. Im liking it!

PS i tried one of your smoothies... Its def a new guilty pleasure of mine haha
 
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