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July cycles thread!!!!!!

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needtogetaas

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Dead summer and its fucking hot out here. Who is on what and who is planing for what?

Any one doing a pro hormon cycle with or with out other sups?

How is the diet and training with your cycles? Lets here it guys.
 
I'm trying to decide between doing a test-only cutting cycle and doing one with Mast at the end.

Going to be using Dave Palumbo's cutting diet and stick with my usual training regimen.
 
Getting ready for:

1-8 Test Prop. 100mg ED
1-6 Tren Ace 50mg ED
1-6 Winstrol 50mg ED

Joined the Omega Project, so I'm REALLY looking forward to so serious results here.
 
doing 500 sust wkly split between 5 shots
alsp primo 400 wkly split between 3 shot and 100,mg ed of winny week 1-6
want to throw som mast or var at the end any suggestins?
 
Test. E 500mg/wk split mon./thurs.
Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - . 500mg/wk split mon./thurs.
trenbolone. Hex. 76mg. 3x week for 8-wks. :evil: :evil: :p :p :chomp: :chomp:
 
Hotter than hell where I live too....103's but relatively low humidty

Finishing up a run of Test E 400wk/Eq 600wk. Going to use Primordial PCT. Never been prone to gyno but I have AI's and SERM's. How much muscle did I gain...who knows. I do know that my body composition changed.....smaller waist, bigger legs and arms with less fat still working on stomach. I can see the outline of my abs but since I have turned 40 my gut has become my nemesis. Right now I weigh 200lbs, 5'10", 42 y/o, 16-17% BF according to Navy formula. Pretty clean diet. I will drop another 6-7lbs in water as the Test clears my system. I also injured myself a couple of times which messed up my gains. I also tried to increase my caloric intake to 3600 and felt like crap...bloated, puffy face. As soon as I dropped the carbs/calories by 800, I started to feel better within 3-4 days. Don't know how some of you eat 4k -5k calories.

Goal for next 3 months is cardio, continue clean diet, reduce BF to at least 12%, let injuries heal completely. Next cycle....going to try Test P with some Winny on the tail end and continue with EQ. My hope is that with less water retention I can increase my calories without feeling bloated (getting Anabolic Kitchen fo sure!!).

Overall I am in the best shape I have ever been. My goal is it be physically fit and lean. I fly in helo's so my "fighting trim" (flight suit, boots, helmet, etc...) can't exceed 220lbs. Pro bodybuilder is not my goal. Learning better life habits is. Thanks to all the good advice I get at EF, I am well on my way... :)
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Getting ready for:

1-8 Test Prop. 100mg ED
1-6 Tren Ace 50mg ED
1-6 Winstrol 50mg ED

Joined the Omega Project, so I'm REALLY looking forward to so serious results here.
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I was going to do join, sort'a strapped. Keep me posted bro. I like that cycle too, well on paper - haven't tried Winny..

I'm on day 44 of my cycle, another 40 days to go (250mg Test E3D and 100mg Tren EOD). I was thinking i'd just stop you know, go on PCT like a normal person. Then I got the bright idea to stretch it out to 21 weeks but at the 84 day mark, switch to Prop and stick to 300mg.. Last 4 weeks add in Anavar @ 50mg ED.. Just thinking, you asked.. Feel free to flame..
 
79steeler said:
Chocolate thunder.
Bro post up some pics of before and after the Omega project.
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I will post up stats but not pictures. I don't need to embarass myself.

I've been doing the project so far for a couple of weeks and all I can say is it was worth every penny.
 
Burpees said:
I was going to do join, sort'a strapped. Keep me posted bro. I like that cycle too, well on paper - haven't tried Winny..

I will do before and after stats once completed. I don't do photos though. :worried:



I'm on day 44 of my cycle, another 40 days to go (250mg Test E3D and 100mg Tren EOD). I was thinking i'd just stop you know, go on PCT like a normal person. Then I got the bright idea to stretch it out to 21 weeks but at the 84 day mark, switch to Prop and stick to 300mg.. Last 4 weeks add in Anavar @ 50mg ED.. Just thinking, you asked.. Feel free to flame..
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DAMN. I hope you can recover from that, that's a long cycle fo sho. Have you ever run var before? I think it is totally overrated. I did 8 weeks at 50mgs ED and just leaned out a little bit.
 
planning a test e and anavar cycle but im still debating dosages!

week 1-10 Test e 300-400mg
week 3-10 anavar 40-50 mg
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Getting ready for:

1-8 Test Prop. 100mg ED
1-6 Tren Ace 50mg ED
1-6 Winstrol 50mg ED

Joined the Omega Project, so I'm REALLY looking forward to so serious results here.
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i was thinking of joinging the omega project also, im interested to see how it works out for you, good luck and keep us posted
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
DAMN. I hope you can recover from that, that's a long cycle fo sho. Have you ever run var before? I think it is totally overrated. I did 8 weeks at 50mgs ED and just leaned out a little bit.
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no I haven't.. lots of people say that on another forum I frequent. I know one dude that ran it for 6 weeks, he pretty much went from lean to ripped back to lean again.. I'm considering the lengthening of the cycle, not 100% set on it. I might just add 4 weeks (16wk total) of just Prop.. Lower my dose, clear the system, and easy PCT..

I don't want to run HCG during my cycle, not really any reason for not wanting too.. Just sort of feel i'm taking too much ON cycle as it is..

I sort of was hoping for feed back :D
 
the fact that you are taking quite a hefty cycle is one of the main reasons FOR you to run hcg. it helps you recover from any cycle, anything over 12 weeks you really, really, really want to use hcg. if you go 16 weeks, or even 21 like you said you might, recovering from that will be a bitch with no hcg.
 
Burpees said:
no I haven't.. lots of people say that on another forum I frequent. I know one dude that ran it for 6 weeks, he pretty much went from lean to ripped back to lean again.. I'm considering the lengthening of the cycle, not 100% set on it. I might just add 4 weeks (16wk total) of just Prop.. Lower my dose, clear the system, and easy PCT..

I don't want to run HCG during my cycle, not really any reason for not wanting too.. Just sort of feel i'm taking too much ON cycle as it is..

I sort of was hoping for feed back :D
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Here's some feedback:

Just remember, this is just MY opinion:

Don't prolong your cycle. It is going to be VERY difficult to recover from that length of shut down. Save the prop and var for another cycle. In addition to that you're not running any hcg during cycle, that is going to make your recovery even harder. You might even loose a good portion of your gains.

Your risking long term health here. In theory it sounds fine but in reality you might have a REAL difficult time with your recovery. Just sayin. :whatever:
 
well, you know how my gear went it's way. so, i have no cycle. But I'm on cyclotren/dermacrine/amp02 and it is kicking ass for me, so I'm happy. gonna toss in some havoc and phytotest next week.
 
Runnning
Test P eod 130 mg
Tren A eod 90 mg
Been on for almost four weeks, lovin it except for the lack of sleep.
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Here's some feedback:

Just remember, this is just MY opinion:

Don't prolong your cycle. It is going to be VERY difficult to recover from that length of shut down. Save the prop and var for another cycle. In addition to that you're not running any hcg during cycle, that is going to make your recovery even harder. You might even loose a good portion of your gains.

Your risking long term health here. In theory it sounds fine but in reality you might have a REAL difficult time with your recovery. Just sayin. :whatever:
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im in a pinch, so i figured stretch out the cycle buy some time then run the hcg when i get my hands on it. so stretching out the cycle for this purpose is worse than running my cycle and pct without hcg? i don't want to lose a damn thing bro.. :\ I'm also not trying to be shut down till mid 2009, and I would very much enjoy a cycle again..

I plan to stay natty for a while after this one, im not at a level where I need gear yet. I still have plenty of natural ability to exploit.. That's one thing ive learned this cycle, I started way too soon. The dead giveaway is my lack of gains.. If I would have been really ready for this I would be blowing up with the dosages I'm at along with my diet/routine.
 
Burpees said:
im in a pinch, so i figured stretch out the cycle buy some time then run the hcg when i get my hands on it. so stretching out the cycle for this purpose is worse than running my cycle and pct without hcg? i don't want to lose a damn thing bro.. :\ I'm also not trying to be shut down till mid 2009, and I would very much enjoy a cycle again..


Ok, I'm not going to mother you too bad here BUT you should ALWAYS have EVERYTHING on hand BEFORE you start a cycle.

By lengthing the cycle you are continuing to supress your HPTA. Even if you lower the dose and just run the prop and anavar you're still shut down.

The hcg helps most on cycle. It helps you recover faster when you start pct. This in turn will hopefully allow you to retain more of what you have built. Not having the hcg during cycle makes recovery harder - not impossible - just harder. It will take longer for you to recover.

If you've been on 84 days you are shut down. When you inject test into your body your body's natural response is to stop producing naturally. Test is test is test. It doesn't matter if it is natural or synthetic.

What I would do if I were you is get your hands on some hcg like yesterday. Once you get ready for pct then PM me and we can go from there.

I plan to stay natty for a while after this one, im not at a level where I need gear yet. I still have plenty of natural ability to exploit.. That's one thing ive learned this cycle, I started way too soon.
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When you go natty (which is totally fine) expect your gains to come much slower. I'm not trying to discourage you by any means it is just the way it seems to work (for me anyhow).
 
Burpees said:
im in a pinch, so i figured stretch out the cycle buy some time then run the hcg when i get my hands on it. so stretching out the cycle for this purpose is worse than running my cycle and pct without hcg? i don't want to lose a damn thing bro.. :\ I'm also not trying to be shut down till mid 2009, and I would very much enjoy a cycle again..

I plan to stay natty for a while after this one, im not at a level where I need gear yet. I still have plenty of natural ability to exploit.. That's one thing ive learned this cycle, I started way too soon. The dead giveaway is my lack of gains.. If I would have been really ready for this I would be blowing up with the dosages I'm at along with my diet/routine.
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Coming from someone that was basically on for 8 months (yes my dumb ass) you should NOT extend your cycle. I am just recently feeling recovered. Believe me its NOT FUN to have barely any libido for months when you are 22. It would be better to cut your cycle to the original 12 weeks you have planned. Come off and do PCT with nolva/sustain rather than waiting for hcg. By the time you get it, the results you get using it at 24 weeks will be less than not using it at 12 weeks. Get recovered, then think about another cycle.

If I recall correctly this is your first cycle right? If so, you have no idea how well or fast you will recover. You could permanently lower your natty test levels by staying on that long (won't necessarily happen but honestly why risk it?). I honestly have no idea whether I'm actually back to where I was before I cycled because I never got tested before. I can only go on that I feel normal again and checking my levels now to see if they are in "normal" range.

Obviously you can do whatever you want, but you REALLY REALLY REALLY shouldn't go longer than 12 weeks. If you wanna talk about it at all just shoot me a PM.
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Getting ready for:

1-8 Test Prop. 100mg ED
1-6 Tren Ace 50mg ED
1-6 Winstrol 50mg ED

Joined the Omega Project, so I'm REALLY looking forward to so serious results here.
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I hate winny. it kills hlh/ldl
 
im tapering off test until the end of july then im done for a while :( :(

then im coming back on something like this, do you think ill set some pr's by the end of this cycle?? :)

sus 250mg/eod 1-16
eq 400mg/wk 1-14
tren 50mg/ed 6-14
anavar 60mg/ed 6-14
dbol 50mg/ed 8-14
 
airsmith2k said:
shot of sustanon, tren hex, masteron every other day...50mgs dbol a day....500mgs of cyp a week...10 ius of hgh a day...waitin for 40 ccs of suspension to get so ill prolly throw that in somewhere in the mix lol
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1-6 test p 100 eod
1-6 tren ace 75 eod
6-10 prop 160 eod
6-10 tren ace 125 eod
 
have you run tren for 10 weeks before? i went 6 and it was tough, i was soooo irritable it was tough to deal with. i felt pretty crappy most of the time
 
DaveTSI said:
have you run tren for 10 weeks before? i went 6 and it was tough, i was soooo irritable it was tough to deal with. i felt pretty crappy most of the time
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I ran it for 10 once. I would not go any longer then that.
 
needtogetaas said:
I ran it for 10 once. I would not go any longer then that.
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im going to give it a run for 8 weeks my next cycle and try and deal, i cant let my gf know though. she hated my guts when i was on it lol
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
When you go natty (which is totally fine) expect your gains to come much slower. I'm not trying to discourage you by any means it is just the way it seems to work (for me anyhow).
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you're all about pissing in my cheerios eh? heh.. fuck it. 12-14 weeks it is, do the last 3-4 weeks on Prop, add in some Winny and get ready for recovery.


mus1cjunk1e said:
Coming from someone that was basically on for 8 months (yes my dumb ass) you should NOT extend your cycle. I am just recently feeling recovered. Believe me its NOT FUN to have barely any libido for months when you are 22. It would be better to cut your cycle to the original 12 weeks you have planned. Come off and do PCT with nolva/sustain rather than waiting for hcg. By the time you get it, the results you get using it at 24 weeks will be less than not using it at 12 weeks. Get recovered, then think about another cycle.

If I recall correctly this is your first cycle right? If so, you have no idea how well or fast you will recover. You could permanently lower your natty test levels by staying on that long (won't necessarily happen but honestly why risk it?). I honestly have no idea whether I'm actually back to where I was before I cycled because I never got tested before. I can only go on that I feel normal again and checking my levels now to see if they are in "normal" range.

Obviously you can do whatever you want, but you REALLY REALLY REALLY shouldn't go longer than 12 weeks. If you wanna talk about it at all just shoot me a PM.
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Thanks bro, I'm taking all of your advice... Same boat over here, first cycle, never did blood work :\


DaveTSI said:
im tapering off test until the end of july then im done for a while :( :(

then im coming back on something like this, do you think ill set some pr's by the end of this cycle?? :)

sus 250mg/eod 1-16
eq 400mg/wk 1-14
tren 50mg/ed 6-14
anavar 60mg/ed 6-14
dbol 50mg/ed 8-14
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Why so high on the sys and so low on the eq? Just wondering..
 
Burpees said:
Why so high on the sys and so low on the eq? Just wondering..
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last time i ran eq 400 was perfect, so ill start there. with some of the sides that can come along with it im leery of going higher for a long cycle. as far as test, 250mg eod of sus is actually around 190mg because of the weight the different esters take up. it actually works out to around 660mg wk of actual test.
 
DaveTSI said:
last time i ran eq 400 was perfect, so ill start there. with some of the sides that can come along with it im leery of going higher for a long cycle. as far as test, 250mg eod of sus is actually around 190mg because of the weight the different esters take up. it actually works out to around 660mg wk of actual test.
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nice attention to detail, i like it.
 
DaveTSI said:
im going to give it a run for 8 weeks my next cycle and try and deal, i cant let my gf know though. she hated my guts when i was on it lol
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haha me2 ;) I tend to get broken up with when I run cycles consisting of tren.
 
DaveTSI said:
have you run tren for 10 weeks before? i went 6 and it was tough, i was soooo irritable it was tough to deal with. i felt pretty crappy most of the time
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This is the first time...I have had no sides whatsover besides being a bit dry and very irratable. Just good gains..was gonna just stick to six weeks but figured id go 10 to make the most out of my job situation...only working a few hours mid day so i can do cardio 90 min in morning workout out 60-90 min at night..figured fuck it..lol..but ya tren does kind of make you want to lay around all day and not do anything...weird..but once i start working out i dont want to quit
 
Burpees said:
you're all about pissing in my cheerios eh? heh.. fuck it. 12-14 weeks it is, do the last 3-4 weeks on Prop, add in some Winny and get ready for recovery.
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NO. I'm just trying to be sure you stay as safe as you can and not f$%k up your future. Nothing more.
 
Meal #1
Blueberry low fat muffin,Coffee

Meal#2
3 Raw Eggs 3 Raw Egg Whites with Proteins shake with Glutamine

Meal #3
Chicken Sub with Protein shake

Meal #4
Usually either 2 Chicken kabobs with 2 lobster tails with rice
or 1bs of extra lean beef with rice

Meal #5
Bowl of cereal or nuts or something with protein shake

fruits during the day also.
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
NO. I'm just trying to be sure you stay as safe as you can and not f$%k up your future. Nothing more.
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heh.. I hope you know I was being facetious, I know why you did it. I also respect your opinion, that's why I'm taking your advice. :P

LOL, is it because your British? ;)
 
needtogetaas said:
Dead summer and its fucking hot out here. Who is on what and who is planing for what?

Any one doing a pro hormon cycle with or with out other sups?

How is the diet and training with your cycles? Lets here it guys.
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IN SIMPLE TERMS

E4D 1g test enth, 150mg deca............been on for months, this is baseline
Also use 1 helios a day
also 40mg anavar 50-100mcg t3
igf1 40mcg 4-6xweek
20-40mg dbol here and there 25-50mg abombs here and there, 100mg test gel here and there
(ran outta dbol few days ago)

will up test to 2g+ per week by end of aug. and hopefully get back on 2-4iugh
 
champion said:
IN SIMPLE TERMS

E4D 1g test enth, 150mg deca............been on for months, this is baseline
Also use 1 helios a day
also 40mg anavar 50-100mcg t3
igf1 40mcg 4-6xweek
20-40mg dbol here and there 25-50mg abombs here and there, 100mg test gel here and there
(ran outta dbol few days ago)

will up test to 2g+ per week by end of aug. and hopefully get back on 2-4iugh
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thats a lot. Not a lot of deca though.
 
I just been cruising on 250mgs of test every 10 days or so. haven't been ON on in a month or so. planning a bulker coming up in aug right before a pre comp blast for a nov bb comp.
 
DannoMight said:
I just been cruising on 250mgs of test every 10 days or so. haven't been ON on in a month or so. planning a bulker coming up in aug right before a pre comp blast for a nov bb comp.
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Ya you said the same thing last thread bro. Good luck on the comp.
 
finally gonna start mine tomorrow. Summer is about to get better!

test c 350 mg. twice per week (weeks 1-16)
Equipoise 225mg twice per week (weeks 1-14)
Winstrol 50mg ed for the last five weeks
 
IM planning

test e 400mg week 1-12
dbol 30mg week 1-6

with some creatine, multi vitamins, BCAA"s, whey, glutamine, flax seed and milk thistle. 1G of water ED. First cycle 6'2" 225 lbs 10-12% BF
 
knockdown357 said:
finally gonna start mine tomorrow. Summer is about to get better!

test c 350 mg. twice per week (weeks 1-16)
Equipoise 225mg twice per week (weeks 1-14)
Winstrol 50mg ed for the last five weeks
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looks solid!
 
just about to start pct 10 weeks tren e 400mg/ test e 500mg. No problems at all with the tren.

10 weeks off then next cycle

1-4 25mg dbol
1-6 500mg test e
6-12 350mg test e
4-12 400mg tren e
6-12 50mg ed var

Will probably add prov/ masteron, depending if I can get my BF from 10%-8% by then.
 
needtogetaas said:
thats a lot. Not a lot of deca though.
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yeah the deca is a little under 300mg a week...but it is astrictly for lubrication........i have a half crusshed toe joint thats acts up.........
I was hitting 300 e4 day but had libido issues even with high test.
deca isnt a drug I really like but it cures my toe
 
cobracock1979 said:
just about to start pct 10 weeks tren e 400mg/ test e 500mg. No problems at all with the tren.

10 weeks off then next cycle

1-4 25mg dbol
1-6 500mg test e
6-12 350mg test e
4-12 400mg tren e
6-12 50mg ed var

Will probably add prov/ masteron, depending if I can get my BF from 10%-8% by then.
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Looks good except I don't quite understand the test dose lowering to 350mg the last 6 weeks. Why not just stay at 500mg the whole time?
 
perryscoon said:
Looks good except I don't quite understand the test dose lowering to 350mg the last 6 weeks. Why not just stay at 500mg the whole time?
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Ill be looking to lean out and drop water towards the end of the cycle - 500mg test bloats me but im fine on 350.

Plus, I wanna keep my weekly doasage under a gram if poss
 
Chocolate_Thunder said:
Getting ready for:

1-8 Test Prop. 100mg ED
1-6 Tren Ace 50mg ED
1-6 Winstrol 50mg ED

Joined the Omega Project, so I'm REALLY looking forward to so serious results here.
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I def. want to try that cycle looks good...will be my next
 
Doing great! Week 3 of:

1-18 Test C 375mg
1-18 Primo 450mg
13-18 Var 60mg

Dermacrine with breakfast every morning, thanks needto! Diet is in check thanks to premade meals by my new girl... I forgot how convenient those are (girlfriends and meals). And I'm gonna pick up needto's cook book as a gift for HER birthday. Thanks bros!
 
Started at the beginning of july
250mg deca week 1-10
400mg of sust week 1-10
50 mg of tbol week 1-4

Jumped up from 208-230 so far, didn't expect to explode so much, pretty intense weight gains, been following a very strict diet, planning to start leaning down from now on.

I really wanted to run 150mg tri-tren/100mg prop e3d, but this was my first cycle in 2 years and didn't want to jump onto the tren right away.
 
theperfectdrug187 said:
Doing great! Week 3 of:

1-18 Test C 375mg
1-18 Primo 450mg
13-18 Var 60mg

Dermacrine with breakfast every morning, thanks needto! Diet is in check thanks to premade meals by my new girl... I forgot how convenient those are (girlfriends and meals). And I'm gonna pick up needto's cook book as a gift for HER birthday. Thanks bros!
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Thats great bro. If she likes to cook healthy she will love the book.
 
needtogetaas said:
750 is pretty much my spot. I use prop now at a hrt dose till I am ready for a cycle.
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I think its going to be mine as well.. I literally felt the test level drop this past week and looked at the calendar and I am right around peak time for eq so...

This morning took extra dose and feel great all day.
 
drsketch said:
I think its going to be mine as well.. I literally felt the test level drop this past week and looked at the calendar and I am right around peak time for eq so...

This morning took extra dose and feel great all day.
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I love it when ou find that right spot man.
 
Mid cycle:

Dbol 25- 50 mg wks 1-3
Test Cyp 450mgs wks 1-10 or 12
Primo- 500mgs wks 3-12

Worst cycle thus far...up just 7 pounds. Diet good- lifting consistently, couldn't figure out the problem...then I realized I'm overtraining big time. I cut back the number of exercises per body part. I was so reluctant to do it because I usually do about 6 exercises and 18-21 sets for each body part, but I got a great workout cutting it to 4 exercises (about 14 sets) each body part. I almost feel guilty now, but I seem to be gaining better since the switch.
 
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