Hygetropin HGH results

[dosteov]

I'm in week 16 of Hygetropin GH cycle. I've been running 4IUs, (5on, 2off), the whole time. Was expecting better things. Was running Test/Deca for about 10 weeks of it as well. I threw in T4 at 100mcg ED about 3-4 weeks ago.

People keep saying you have to run it for 6 months to start seeing results. I was hoping to see something by the 4th month though. I'm on it another 3-4 months so hopefully the best is yet to come. I started getting some sides like week 6 or so. Mostly alot of water retention in hands and feet. They lasted 3-4 weeks and have since subsided. My hands and knuckles still feel a little swollen.

I'm 34 and this is my first run with GH also so have nothing to compare it to.

 

[Maxx Out]

I'm in week 16 of Hygetropin GH cycle. I've been running 4IUs, (5on, 2off), the whole time. Was expecting better things. Was running Test/Deca for about 10 weeks of it as well. I threw in T4 at 100mcg ED about 3-4 weeks ago.

People keep saying you have to run it for 6 months to start seeing results. I was hoping to see something by the 4th month though. I'm on it another 3-4 months so hopefully the best is yet to come. I started getting some sides like week 6 or so. Mostly alot of water retention in hands and feet. They lasted 3-4 weeks and have since subsided. My hands and knuckles still feel a little swollen.

I'm 34 and this is my first run with GH also so have nothing to compare it to.

HGH works very slowly over time brother! Don't get discouraged and stick with it.

 

[MorganKane]

I think most people that gets discourage is thinking it will be like AAS.
its somewhat hard to quantify the gains from HGH and I personally dont think its a magic bullet.
It takes some time and the effects are not drastic like with AAS.

 

[ole farte']

do you notice any fat reduction around the belly? i'm 9wks into 4iu ed and i notice that. i'm gonna give a year.

 

[dosteov]

I think most people that gets discourage is thinking it will be like AAS.
its somewhat hard to quantify the gains from HGH and I personally dont think its a magic bullet.
It takes some time and the effects are not drastic like with AAS.

I'm going to give it some time. I'm going to run it for about 9 months or so. So I'm not really halfway through as of yet. Also going to throw in some Test and Tren in a couple of weeks so hopefully that helps.

My diet hasn't been as good as I would like either (various things going on in my life have made it difficult to eat well). We'll see. I'm going to stick with it and hope for the best. Not much else I can do really...

 

[georgie24]

one of the best HGH out there right now

 

[extremefighter]

I like the blue tops better, running Hygetropin now. Hygetropin is ok. If you want to see better results with your GH run IGF-1 with it.

 

[dsh89]

Any thing positive you have noticed Dosteov? Like and fat loss, increased mood, better sleep, etc? I am just starting Hygetropin at 3iu 5days on/2 off. I am also 34. I am interested to more about your experience thus far.

 

[52_21_30]

I personally love GH (and IGF-1). I'm only 25 but it changes my body so much. I've never had my levels tested, but I have a feeling I might be a hypo-secreter due to my drastic responses at such a young age and modest dose (6 iu EOD).

 

[Max Expansion]

oh my god how off the mark was i
i thought hgh an igf had fast results

can someone give me a little overview of the differences between them.

i thought it was a fast weight loss option

what a duffus

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

For me bro. I did a cycle of about 8 months at 4iu eod with a little stent of it 8iu eod. I noticed my body's joints, tendons and ligaments def got stronger. the amout of weight I could hold without feeling like I was gonna break improved a lot and for me I dont want GH to make me much bigger, I want it to prevent my body from getting injured in hard training. I think It makes your overall body get stronger and stronger. power lifters love the shit over here at golds.
I am about to start another cycle. I am gonna go 4iu ed for about a year. I have heard all the things about ed vs eod and I am starting to see more guys getting better results with the ed injections and stabler levels of growth...so i will be doing 4iu ed split in 2 2iu shots...I am young as well, 23, and i loved the growth i ran at 22...so I am gonna go on for a year and really see how it will change my body. All fighters love the stuff

 

[52_21_30]

The only reason I do EOD is because I plan to be on it pretty much indefinitely. And you're absolutely right, over time you will notice your body will get stronger and stronger and more resistant to injury. After just a month you'll start to notice that your top sets feel light on your body, but the muscles are still the limiting factor. For example, the last time I trained chest I got to my top set on inclines which is between 365 and 405 for 6-8 reps depending on the day and what gear I'm on. I got under the 405 and it felt like my wrists, elbows, and soulders were made of titanium. I still only got 7 reps with it (stopped my fina a week ago) but it just "felt" a little lighter. And that's a very good thing. You want your muscles to be the limiting factor, not your connective tissue.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

The only reason I do EOD is because I plan to be on it pretty much indefinitely.

yeah but from this new study they got on cutting edge...there is like now way to repress the natural gh unless you shoot after 5pm. Also the levels of Natural GH serum in an adult is next to nothing...almost can't even be detected...at least that is what the study on cuttingedge says.

 

[52_21_30]

I'm more concerned with developing antibodies. But also I notice less joint pain and water retention with EOD as opposed to ED. But to each his own. Use what whorks best for YOU.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

I'm more concerned with developing antibodies. But also I notice less joint pain and water retention with EOD as opposed to ED. But to each his own. Use what whorks best for YOU.

no totally 52, you are right..and like i said in my earlier post...i have only ever done eod...so ed might be to much for me...but I am gonna check it out and i will keep everyone posted on progress

 

[iHulk]

Was thinking about ordering some Hygetrophin HGH 200iu kits 2.3/iu.
Are you guys using the Hygetropin aqua tops? Also was thinking to run it a 6 IU ed for at least 8 months.

52, what dosages and how long did you run it?

 

[NJjuice22]

Have you tried any other HGH to compare it to? I used Jintropin for 3 months and it totally changed my body compisition. I was able to get very lean while not dieting to strictly.

I used 3 kits at about 4-5iu/ ed

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

from what i was told by one of the hugest growth supplyers that most of the vets know....is that gensci(jino) had another partner that left and started hygene (hyge) and they use the same process to make as jino...as the source...lets just call him or her, HK, for those who would could get it from that...says that hyge and jino are both 97-98% pure and are the 191aa strain...now generic blue tops as well are 191 but they are more around 90% pure...and there are even ones that are lower in purity....the only 192 strain left is fitropin by kexing
So when you work it out...if you are getting a good price on hyge...it is the way to go!

 

[iHulk]

from what i was told by one of the hugest growth supplyers that most of the vets know....is that gensci(jino) had another partner that left and started hygene (hyge) and they use the same process to make as jino...as the source...lets just call him or her, HK, for those who would could get it from that...says that hyge and jino are both 97-98% pure and are the 191aa strain...now generic blue tops as well are 191 but they are more around 90% pure...and there are even ones that are lower in purity....the only 192 strain left is fitropin by kexing
So when you work it out...if you are getting a good price on hyge...it is the way to go!

alright cool, thanks Cauli.
Hopefully this rhGH will put some meat / strength on my soft tissue and tendons as are they are starting to hurt more and more under the increasing weight.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

alright cool, thanks Cauli.
Hopefully this rhGH will put some meat / strength on my soft tissue and tendons as are they are starting to hurt more and more under the increasing weight.

no prob bro, dude thats why every fighter in the world is on it...dude have you seen tito's head...or chuck's gh gut.... vanderlei silva bro...everyone...fedor...and the deal is....it makes your ligaments and tendons so much stronger that you almost never get hurt so it lets you train longer and more often...
but the way i see it with you guys is it is a nessecity after you get to a certain size you have to back it up by strengthening them connectors ihulk

 

[iHulk]

no prob bro, dude thats why every fighter in the world is on it...dude have you seen tito's head...or chuck's gh gut.... vanderlei silva bro...everyone...fedor...and the deal is....it makes your ligaments and tendons so much stronger that you almost never get hurt so it lets you train longer and more often...
but the way i see it with you guys is it is a nessecity after you get to a certain size you have to back it up by strengthening them connectors ihulk

oh yea! totally bro! Everytime I see Tito or Hughes in training / off season it looks like their cheeks are gonna blow any second.

Seriously its reedonkulous! Hughes is the worst. He's got dbol / test / HGH bloat coming outta his ears. Tito's head looks like it could lift off and go to the moon.

Vanderlei, Franklin, Shamrock... all of them. Didn't notice the guts so much but the cheeks and foreheads just give it away. LOL!

 

[Kachunga]

Hygetropin = best gh out there
IMHO
getting great results off of just 2 iu/day and like others I plan to stay on indef.

 

[dosteov]

Hygetropin = best gh out there
IMHO
getting great results off of just 2 iu/day and like others I plan to stay on indef.

How long you've been running it for?

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

im with kach...it is the same quality and purity as jino...as i stated in my previous post...it was a guy who left gensci that started hygene...so until someone come out with another 191aa sequence that is over 98% in purity and charges less then hyge does...it is the best gh

 

[bbkingpin]

im with kach...it is the same quality and purity as jino...as i stated in my previous post...it was a guy who left gensci that started hygene...so until someone come out with another 191aa sequence that is over 98% in purity and charges less then hyge does...it is the best gh

Not in my book and I've tried Jino and Serostim. Why is Hygetropin the only hGH where I get no arm numbness after almost 400 IUs (equivalent of 4 kits of Jino)?

 

[kaoz]

Im on the hyges and the numbness in my arms is bad it feels like i have no grip.Sometimes it hurts bad just to grab the bench for a warm up .I ran 100 ius generic blues now im taking hyge and i want to go up to 4ius a day but i cant to strong so i do 3 a day.

 

[iHulk]

Hygetropin = best gh out there
IMHO
getting great results off of just 2 iu/day and like others I plan to stay on indef.

good to hear another happy customer.
me thinks I'm gonna go with Hygetropin (aqua tops).

im with kach...it is the same quality and purity as jino...as i stated in my previous post...it was a guy who left gensci that started hygene...so until someone come out with another 191aa sequence that is over 98% in purity and charges less then hyge does...it is the best gh

So apparently there is only manufacturer that produces the 192aa chain?
anyone experience the difference btw 192aa and 191aa?
what % purity is the 192aa?

 

[Kachunga]

How long you've been running it for?

Jinos for 3 months, Hyg's for 2 months

 

[dosteov]

Jinos for 3 months, Hyg's for 2 months

I've been on the Hygs for 4 months now at 4IUs and I don't get any hand numbness whatsoever. And I'm getting it from a legit source (his initials were mentioned in this thread). I did get some swelling in my feet and hands though. Maybe I'm just not prone to hand numbness.

 

[Kachunga]

good to hear another happy customer.
me thinks I'm gonna go with Hygetropin (aqua tops).



So apparently there is only manufacturer that produces the 192aa chain?
anyone experience the difference btw 192aa and 191aa?
what % purity is the 192aa?

Well the body produces 191aa. So Jino, Hyg and Kefei copied it. Fitropin makes 192aa. I have not tried Fit but I think I'll stick with the 191aa crowd

 

[Kachunga]

I've been on the Hygs for 4 months now at 4IUs and I don't get any hand numbness whatsoever. And I'm getting it from a legit source (his initials were mentioned in this thread). I did get some swelling in my feet and hands though. Maybe I'm just not prone to hand numbness.

Your source is a great guy! He is the one that steered me towards the Hygetropins. I was buying a ton of Jino from him. Hyg is substantially cheaper than Jino. So he is losing money. Something to think about from the Hyg haters (not you kingpin!)
Look everyone is different. I am relatively new to hgh. But I have been through almost 1000 iu of both of these and in my experience the hygetropin is the best bang for the buck. You may have to bump up to 5. Someone told me Ulter recommends 8 eod. If I put 8 units of the hygetropin in me I dont think I would be able to walk! What I do is start low and work my way up. When I start to feel the sides, I back it back down. I think thats good advice for just about anything

 

[bbkingpin]

I'd rather pay twice for 2 kits (200 IUs) of Jin from a trusted source than half that for 2 kits (400 IUs) of Hyge. I know the other source is good reputation-wise and all but his prices for Jin are about what it costs from GenSci directly. So, unless he gets HUGE discounts from GenSci, how can he make any money off the Jintropin? Unless it's not real Jin. I'm not making any accusations, it's just that I'm wondering why the most obvious and intense side-effect associated with even the highest quality hGH has not occurred after 400 IUs of Hygetropin. And when I asked the source, he told me he does not take hGH and to ask someone on a board. The best human grade hGH (Serono Serostim) crippled my arms with numbness. I awoke every night hourly. Why nothing on Hygetropin? Jintropin caused the same side effects. I'm very skeptical. That's all.

 

[lartinos]

Blue tops are very potent, running it now and loving them.

 

[225mygoal]

i've been on and off GH for 3 years. This by far is the best thing that we can put in to our bodies. Mentioned earlier when we grow up and mature GH is pretty much non existing. You can be on GH 2iu mon-fri for a long time, the question is can you afford it.

I have 4 kits of Seros coming to me in the next few days, I'm seriously thinking of dumping them off to somebody else. The price is just so damn good that in the 3 years I've been purchasing it, I've never gotten them this cheap.

So you see my dilemma! 1 kit of gh will not be enough to apreciate what it can do.

225

 

[galaxy]

Pay the money. You go the cheap route and you get the cheap results. Just havent seen enough to make me switch from the jintropins.

 

[kbrkbr]

My blue top finally arrived but I'm not sure how I'm gonna run them because I just started IGF as part of my pct. After 18 months on, I'm now running HMG 15iu ED and HCG 500iu ED. Gonna do that for three weeks along with the IGF, then drop the HMG and HCG and go only with clomid and IGF, and maybe the gh if I can figure out how to use it. Until 6 weeks ago, when I ran out, I was running hyge at 8iu EOD.

 

[galaxy]

Just go with 4iu eod until you decide maybe? Its cheap enough. Have you used the HMG before? I was thinking of getting some.

 

[Kachunga]

I'd rather pay twice for 2 kits (200 IUs) of Jin from a trusted source than half that for 2 kits (400 IUs) of Hyge. I know the other source is good reputation-wise and all but his prices for Jin are about what it costs from GenSci directly. So, unless he gets HUGE discounts from GenSci, how can he make any money off the Jintropin? Unless it's not real Jin. I'm not making any accusations, it's just that I'm wondering why the most obvious and intense side-effect associated with even the highest quality hGH has not occurred after 400 IUs of Hygetropin. And when I asked the source, he told me he does not take hGH and to ask someone on a board. The best human grade hGH (Serono Serostim) crippled my arms with numbness. I awoke every night hourly. Why nothing on Hygetropin? Jintropin caused the same side effects. I'm very skeptical. That's all.

Fair enough bro.

 

[iHulk]

anyone know how long the rhGH Jino's will last without the purity degrading or solution crashing?
Same question for Hyge's?

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

dude, hyge uses the same process to make their 191aa sequence....in fact as i stated earlier....it was an employee off gensci that took the process and left and started making it more affordible....BBKing...i understand you not getting the sides would make you skeptical...for me i have done jinos, blues, and hyge...for me blues i got sides...jinos i got nothing at all....and hyge...expecially at 8iu eod...i was fuckin crippled...
so to each their own....hyge is exactly 2/3 the price of jinos and dude...the way you can run hyge...i get fucking crazy results on it...
I am sure you have gotten great results on jinos as well...
i enjoy having these discussions to see everyones point of view and i appreciate yours
peace

 

[iHulk]

bumping for my expiry question?

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

bumping for my expiry question?

not sure about jinos...but with hyge it is good refigerated for longer than you need...you'll have shot it way before it expires...but a better q is how long can it be reconstituted...and for that I believe that you want to shoot a reconstituted bottle of hyge in like 10 days...i believe it is similar for jin

 

[iHulk]

not sure about jinos...but with hyge it is good refigerated for longer than you need...you'll have shot it way before it expires...but a better q is how long can it be reconstituted...and for that I believe that you want to shoot a reconstituted bottle of hyge in like 10 days...i believe it is similar for jin

that was my next question, thanks Cauli

 

[niv]

great thread.. im seriously considering hgh now.. but what about the stories you hear about guys needing surgery to remove bone growing out thier elbows and forehead?? any of you guys ever get that??

 

[iHulk]

great thread.. im seriously considering hgh now.. but what about the stories you hear about guys needing surgery to remove bone growing out thier elbows and forehead?? any of you guys ever get that??

huh?

 

[ole farte']

great thread.. im seriously considering hgh now.. but what about the stories you hear about guys needing surgery to remove bone growing out thier elbows and forehead?? any of you guys ever get that??

sometimes i have a bone growing out of my crotch

 

[iHulk]

sometimes i have a bone growing out of my crotch

LOL!

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

you are talking achegomy...only happens with high doses for long time

 

[iHulk]

this one dude from Hong Kong that is a Pro BB'er (Chinese guy) and every time I see him which is like 6 months apart his head looks like it grew 2 inches wider. His face is gonna explode. I asked him his rhGH regimen and he said 10 iu ed ....its reedonkulous.
Not sure he notices though... lol!

 

[dsh89]

Hyge is good for 10 days reconstitued.

 

[52_21_30]

10 days is a good measure. I preload 10 slin pins and shoot eod. Never had a problem.

 

[extremefighter]

I've been on the Hygs for 4 months now at 4IUs and I don't get any hand numbness whatsoever. And I'm getting it from a legit source (his initials were mentioned in this thread). I did get some swelling in my feet and hands though. Maybe I'm just not prone to hand numbness.

I am on the same boat as you bo. Did 2ius of blue tops and got numbness, doing 4ius of Hygs and get no numbness. Got them from the same guy you did.

 

[52_21_30]

Oh, guess i'll add my $.02 on numbness. Getting woken up by hand/arm numbness at night using 6 iu eod of brown top generics. Swithing to blue's tomorrow.

 

[extremefighter]

Could it be just like AAS, some "batches" of Hygetropin are good thus giving good sides and results while other "batches" are not good. I will not use Hygetropin again.

 

[ole farte']

my hand tingling and numbness seem to be getting worse. 7th wk, 4iu.ed of jin. this week was the first time i got woke up at night from it . nothing i can't tolerate yet though.

 

[mwweber21]

Is hgh a controlled substance? For example, if one was caught importing a couple kits would they face the same penalties as someone importing steroids?

 

[black sheep]

Pay the money. You go the cheap route and you get the cheap results. Just havent seen enough to make me switch from the jintropins.

I agree - I pay about 30% more for Jinos domestic than you are paying for those Hyge's. I have tried other Generic hgh brands and always come back to Jino. I am done straying away now - Jino has it hands down IMO.

 

[Cauliflower Ear]

it is good to have bunches of different people on this forum using diff stuff and getting diff results..for me i get stronger sides and better results on hyge...even if i had cash coming outt of my ears and i wasnt a college student...i would still get hyge and just up my dose...for me it is like for what i would pay for 4iu ed of jino...i could run 6iu ed of hyge...there is no comparison for me...cause i got better results at 4iu hyge then i did at 4iu jino...so 6iu...no comparison for me...
but guys like BBking and b sheep i respect a lot on the boards and when they say they get great better results on less jino...i believe them...to each there own...its like the same with aas and hgh...some compounds work better for some people...to each their own..great thread guys...i love hgh threads!

 

[52_21_30]

Is hgh a controlled substance? For example, if one was caught importing a couple kits would they face the same penalties as someone importing steroids?

yes and yes

 

[chicagobuffedbod]

Would anyone be willing to private me on this?
I want to get my hands on some. I am using up the last of my serostim and I don't think I can get anymore of it.
Thanks.

 

[gautho]

I believe jins are slightly better then the Blue tops and hygetropins, but honestly, they are all so close that i don't have a problem mixing and matching these 3 brands. For example, i may run 2-3 kits of jins, then a kit of blue tops, then maybe bounce over to the hyge's for a few kits. So all in all, just about the same in my opinion.

 

[52_21_30]

I believe jins are slightly better then the Blue tops and hygetropins, but honestly, they are all so close that i don't have a problem mixing and matching these 3 brands. For example, i may run 2-3 kits of jins, then a kit of blue tops, then maybe bounce over to the hyge's for a few kits. So all in all, just about the same in my opinion.

Agreed. In a perfect world we'd all have Jin's for $20 a kit but that's not the case. K to you!

 

[gautho]

Agreed. In a perfect world we'd all have Jin's for $20 a kit but that's not the case. K to you!

Thanks, k back at you bro.

 

[52_21_30]

To anyone who has used both generic browns and blues, did you notice that when reconstituted the blue (aqua) tops were slightly more viscous than the brown tops? The difference is slight but it is there. I noticed it because I loaded my final brown top then 3 blue tops (4 iu per barrel). When i injected air into the brown top mix it almost looked like soap suds and the mix was very watery. With the blue tops though there was just a single air bubble that I injected, and even though the solution appeared every so slightly more viscous, it was actually easier to draw into the slin pin. I'm probably over-analyzing, but just wondering if anyone had noticed this with the generics.

 

[bigguy1234]

couple questions from a complete rookie, first im a much bigger guy over 6 foot tall and 300 pounds would i need to take more IU's for the same effect, and second been thinking about getting either somatropin or hygetropin and trying to decide which one would be a better idea? im thinking the somatropin would be more legit but take longer to get and ive been having a disk issue in my back and want to start the healing and strengthening effects ASAP. Sorry if this sounds completely dumb just wanted a little more info any input would be greatly appreciated

 

[sdxspexops]

Hey Bigguy: here is a couple of good elements for testing HGH:

The Protocol:
Inject 10 iu IM.
Have your blood drawn 3-4 hours after injecting.
Fasting is not necessary.
No strenuous activity for at least 30 min prior to test.


What level represents a "pass?" Our research indicates that injecting 10 iu IM of pharmaceutical grade HGH yields a serum level of between 15-50 ng/mL.

The test that you need to order is a Human Growth Hormone, Serum test. You can order the test at privatemdlabs for about $50. You can usually find a 15% off coupon if you look around also. After ordering the test online, you will then print off the order and take it to the nearest labcorp for the blood draw. There is no need for an appointment. You will have your results in 24-48 hours.

When mixing your hgh, be very careful when injecting the bac water, handling it in a rough manner could destroy the hgh and give you a false negative. Inject the water against the side of the vial and let it run down slowly. Store your hgh in the fridge before and after reconstituting.

Just make sure and do your research. I am taking Kigtropins now for several weeks and getting some great results.

 

[sdxspexops]

BigGuy:

If I haven't thrown enough information already... check out these charts:

The following table shows typical IGF-1 (somatomedin -c) values for a given age. IGF-1 (Insulin like Growth Factor 1) levels are typically used to indicate the availability of growth hormone in the human body.

This table shows specific values from a specific laboratory. Due to different calibration used by the different laboratories, the IGF-1 reference values per age may differ considerably per laboratory.

Females/Males (Age) Range (ng/mL)
1-5 years 50-327
6-10 years 52-452
11-15 years 111-996 (1)
16-20 years 127-903 (1)
21-25 years 116-358
26-30 years 117-329
31-35 years 115-307
36-40 years 109-284
41-45 years 101-267
46-50 years 94-252
51-55 years 87-238
56-60 years 81-225
61-65 years 75-212
66-70 years 69-200
71-75 years 64-188
76-80 years 59-177
81-85 years 55-166

(1) Highest values at the ages of 15-16 years.

As an example lets view the values for a person in the 46 to 50 year range. The notation for the values is 94(low)-252(high). In this case we will simplify the calculation of the median as (low + high)/2, in this case (94(low) + 252(high)) = 346, 346/2 = 173.

When evaluating test results always keep the following in mind:

Always use the same laboratory and the same type of IGF-1 test. Due to calibration or differences in IGF-1 testing methods, considerable differences may result when intermixing laboratories and testing methods.

Ask for IGF-1 reference values per age for your type of test from your laboratory or testing entity.

Always test yourself before starting any form of HgH human growth hormone supplementation. You need a reference (starting) point to be able to see the impact of the HgH treatment in relation to no growth hormone treatment.

Malnutrition will cause low somatomedin-c (IGF-1) values in spite of normal amounts of circulating HgH human growth hormone.

If you think you have an extremely low or high hgh human growth hormone level consult a physician or an endocrinologist.If your level is below the median and you experience HgH insufficiency symptoms you should definitely consider HgH supplementation.
Before administering any form of HgH human growth hormone to youths and children (anyone under 20 years of age) consult a physician or an endocrinologist. In our opinion you should not give youths or children HgH human growth hormone supplementation unless there is a medical condition that requires it, and proper medical monitoring is available.

 

[thedude805]

I'm looking to run my first cycle of GH any reccomendations for first time users.

Ive ran test e and c off and on for 2 years.
6'2' 230, powerlifter, looking to add some lean mass, add in healing of joints and ligaments.

 

[burnthiscorpse]

Dont fucking bump a 6 year old thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[wootoom]

No bumping old threads