Dude, are you making fun of my "most despised" companies thread?
The first choice listed is Cytodyne and in parenthisis are the reasons they are on that list, which are Z-mass and Methoxy-Pro. Then I see you start 2 threads asking if those 2 products are any good. Those products suck and so does CytoDyne.
They've recently started pushing the ephedrine free Xenadrine as better than the original to try and increase sales. I think anyone who knows a little about ECA will tell you this is total BS.
Basically, stay away from Cytodyne and their unsubstantiated hype (no matter how many times they put clinically proven on it).
I have taken both Cytodyne Zmass PM and their new CycloZmass. IMO, they are just overpriced ZMA. ZMA may increase free testosterone levels in the long run, help you sleep, etc. Do a search on 'ZMA'.
My advice is to use any namebrand ZMA and save some money.
I have heard of it and have gotten really good feedback on it (especially when you stack it with 1-AD). Retail is $60 but I get them for $40. PM me if you want any.