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You will not keep your gains

myasshurts

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This is my first visit to this site in a while. I did 1 cycle well over a year ago. I put on about 20 pounds of LBM and was very pleased with myself. I had the reassurances of people online and a few athletes I know that I would keep most of it. I did for a while. 4 months post cycle I was hanging around +15. I kept eating well and working out and eating well. In the time that has passed, I have very gradually gone back to about +3, where I would easily be now if I hadn't done that cycle. The drop was so gradual that I didn't really notice it. I now firmly believe that AS gains are not maintable in the long run, unless you were very small to begin with. Your body will eventually revert to normal without the occassional boost. All you people that talk on here about "gains kept" try going 2 years without a cycle and see what you are really keeping. I'm not criticizing anybody, just putting this out there for people that might be considering their 1st. I really don't care at this point. I am very happy with my build and am over the whole get huge thing. My health and stress come way before my muscle size. I have also found that I am much better at grappling/fighting at my natural weight(200) then I was at my juiced weight(220) In case anyone is curious I am 6`1. I have better endurance and coordination, and I am more than strong enough to handle the juice heads. Like I said I really am not criticizing anyone, just throwing out another point of view than what is normally pushed on this site. Take a long term view of what you are doing and see if it is really worth the acne, needles, diet, money, mood swing, legal risk... Best wishes to everybody.
 
If you get past your genetic limit in terms of bodyweight with gear and then stop taking it then, yeah overtime you'll revert back to your maximum natural weight... but if you're under your genetic limit you should keep all the gains you have after clomid- assuming you're still lifting.

Don't you think if you indeed did eventually lose all your gains then more people than just you would have realized this amazing phenomenon?

Muscle is muscle... whether you get it with steroids or lifting naturally you will hang on to it as long as you workout and are under your max genetically determined weight.
 
Well I guess I don't really see the point in using them if you can get to the same place without them. One argument would be speed, but I reached what I believe to be my limit when I was only 20. To each his own I guess...
 
Oh and I forgot to mention the tendonitis. I have it real bad in my arms and I am positive it came from the large weight I was moving while on. It didn't really become noticable until a month or so after I came off.
 
I disagree with your conclusions. Based on personal experience, AS use changes a person's genetic "spot" permanently.
 
Dial_tone said:
I developed alot of muscle before ever juicing, then only sought moderate gains when on juice. In the 16 yrs since I've juiced I'm only down about 10 lbs of muscle from my peak, and that includes a 10 yr period of very sporadic training. I say max out your natural potential THEN juice. Otherwise it's a huge waste of money.

Some would argue it just gets you where you would have eventually gotten naturally- faster.
 
I just started again after a year off. I'm 28 years old and started AS when I was 24, after YEARS of natural training. I am bigger and stronger now than I ever was when natural, and after a year of off time it certainly seems permanent.

However, this is my body, not yours. You may be different, but many people I have spoken with throughout the years agree that AS changes your spot.

After all, side effects are sometimes permanent. Why wouldn't this also be conversely true with some other aspects of AS use?
 
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