Yes another one..Winny+Test E

[SYNCMASTER1]

Yes first real cycle tell me whats up??
50mg ed winny orally When do I start this at the start with test, or the end??
I have some Test E 250.. I want to run 300mg ew for 10 weeks..How much and often should I shoot the test? Should I go 500mg for my first cycle or is that too much?? Also Want to throw some tren on the end of the cycle maybe after the winny?
Thanks for the help..
Stats are 24 5-10 185
Good diet 5 days a week in the gym

My goals Get bigger size without bloat, I want some lean muscle

 

[black10]

wk 1-10 500mg 250m 250 th
wk 5-10 50mg ed 25 am 25 pm
watch your carbs/sodium if you don't want to gain too much water, i didn't my 1st cycle and i looked like the michellin man
also what is your pct plan?

 

[SYNCMASTER1]

I need a pct Will 6 OXO work for an estr blocker??

 

[52_21_30]

I need a pct Will 6 OXO work for an estr blocker??

wow...

No, get nolvadex. Research more before you start your cycle. PCT is just as important as the cycle, unless of course you want to lose your gains and grow tits.

And dont do tren on a first cycle. Again, much more reading is needed on your part before you start pinning.

 

[black10]

wow...

No, get nolvadex. Research more before you start your cycle. PCT is just as important as the cycle, unless of course you want to lose your gains and grow tits.

And dont do tren on a first cycle. Again, much more reading is needed on your part before you start pinning.

^^^^ yeah what he said is dead on

 

[SYNCMASTER1]

Yes I am doing reading But I just have some questions.. I just want to see if this cycle will be a good one for my first.. It sounds simple I want to put on like 20lbs in 10 weeks, is this possible With 500mg of test and 350mg of winny??

 

[dsh89]

Yeah stay the fuck away from tren for a first cycle bro. Test alone is all I usually suggest for a first cycle, but the winny for the last 5 or 6 weeks of 10 will really harden you up. Get PCT and an AI in order BEFORE you start. I cannot stress the importance of this. Other than that, I wish you GL with your cycle.

 

[SYNCMASTER1]

Yeah stay the fuck away from tren for a first cycle bro. Test alone is all I usually suggest for a first cycle, but the winny for the last 5 or 6 weeks of 10 will really harden you up. Get PCT and an AI in order BEFORE you start. I cannot stress the importance of this. Other than that, I wish you GL with your cycle.

Yes I will before I start for sure!! Im going to contact the AF store today, they seem to be a superior on this forum..But my question was Is 500mg enough? and how much and how often would i take it??

 

[jitc476]

test e 300 a week, every week. 10 weeks. aifm during. clomid 2 weeks after last shot of test.

great first cycle. leave some play for later..

 

[Castro_bigdog]

Test E 500mg weeks 1-10
Winny 50mg a day weeks 5-11
Proviron 25mg a day weeks 1-13
Clomid 25mg a day weeks 13-17

This should get you that hard look and help keep bloat down, make sure you keep your diet in check.

No need to train everyday lift 3 days a week like this.

Mon. Chest & Tries
Weds. Back & Bies
Fri. Shoulders & Legs

You can do cardio and abs on your of days....

This workout along with a good diet will give you size and help get you ripped up ...

My 1st was close to this and it Ripped me to shreds ............

 

[genman]

test e 300 a week, every week. 10 weeks. aifm during. clomid 2 weeks after last shot of test.

great first cycle. leave some play for later..

Great first cycle. See how you body reacts to one compound at a time. Test 250mg/ml = 3/4ml twice a week (375mg/ew). Good luck!

 

[SYNCMASTER1]

Thanks for all your input guys!!! Someone suggested to throw 40mg of dbol in the mix for the first 3-4 weeks?? Would this give a kick start??
And also 500mg Test ew would be to much for the first time??

 

[genman]

Thanks for all your input guys!!! Someone suggested to throw 40mg of dbol in the mix for the first 3-4 weeks?? Would this give a kick start??
And also 500mg Test ew would be to much for the first time??

500mg test yes, dbol, no. Like I said, see how you body reacts to one compound at a time. You have a long time to add on and get creative down the road. The info you get from a test only cycle is the basis for all of your side related questions in the future, since it will be the base of most, if not all future cycles. Dbol can give you a laundry list of sides. How will you know if it's the test or dbol?

 

[steelmass]

Test E sucks (bloat-wise).. Go prop or transdermal prop if you don't like the whole pin cushion thing..

 

[SYNCMASTER1]

Ok I understand the one at a time thing.. If I do 500 Would i do like 250 on mon and 250 on thursday night?? Or all 500 every 4 days??

 

[Castro_bigdog]

Ok I understand the one at a time thing.. If I do 500 Would i do like 250 on mon and 250 on thursday night?? Or all 500 every 4 days??

Or 250mg on Sunday and 250 on Wednesday........

Sunday Is a chilled out day and you have more time on your hands to take your time...........

 

[genman]

Ok I understand the one at a time thing.. If I do 500 Would i do like 250 on mon and 250 on thursday night?? Or all 500 every 4 days??

I do Monday Am ad Thurs PM. Every 3-1/2 days, more stable blood levels.

Sunday is my day off and something about starting my workout week with my gear brings it up a level.

 

[Castro_bigdog]

I do Monday Am ad Thurs PM. Every 3-1/2 days, more stable blood levels.

Sunday is my day off and something about starting my workout week with my gear brings it up a level.

makes sense...

 

[ace of spades]

Test E 500mg weeks 1-10
Winny 50mg a day weeks 5-11
Proviron 25mg a day weeks 1-13
Clomid 25mg a day weeks 13-17

I am planning on making this my next cycle. I'm currently in the middle of an eq/win cycle, anyone have any thoughts on how long I should wait after finishing this cycle before beginning a test e/win cycle like castro planned out?