gawd i hate lita. she sux so bad. on a side note that was pretty sweet when they destroyed that limo
From Zero said:Good God. That was seriously the worst Raw I have ever seen.
- Women cannot wrestle. Especially Stratus.
- Mark Henry cannot wrestle. He looked so unathletic. Not to mention he is the ugliest man alive.
- Goldberg cannot wrestle.
- Flair. Christ ... Flair needs to retire.
The only entertaining thing I saw was the footage from the ladder match between RVD and Christian.
From Zero said:Good God. That was seriously the worst Raw I have ever seen.
- Women cannot wrestle. Especially Stratus.
- Mark Henry cannot wrestle. He looked so unathletic. Not to mention he is the ugliest man alive.
- Goldberg cannot wrestle.
- Flair. Christ ... Flair needs to retire.
The only entertaining thing I saw was the footage from the ladder match between RVD and Christian.
saint808 said:victoria is hot and prolly the best woman on the roster.
Nihilist said:but who wouldnt nail litas browneye?
The_Eviscerator said:What is Wrong with wrestling?
1. McMahons on television taking wrestlers spots on the card.
2. A-Train, Mark Henry, Big Show and any other large stiff that can't move and lacks charisma.
3. The burying of RVD. This guy is a star whether Vince wants to push him or not.
4. Kane "The Monster" getting beat up by Shane... stupid!
5. Commentators wrestling for announcing jobs... retarded!
6. Stephanie Mc Mahon on the writing team?
7. Guys like Triple H and Undertaker refusing to give a rub to the younger talent. For isntance... Booker T should have won the belt from Triple H when they had the build up for him. The fans were behind him and they wanted it. Instead he loses and gets buried in a feud with Christian.
8. Paul Heyman not being on a writing team.
9. Mick Foley not on the writing team.
10. Guys with no wrestling knowledge or knowledge of wrestling history on the writing teams.
I seriously hope NWA-TNA gets a TV contract and starts whipping WWE's ass. I have watched two of their pay per views and with a little better production their product could be superior.
From Zero said:Good God. That was seriously the worst Raw I have ever seen.
- Women cannot wrestle. Especially Stratus.
- Mark Henry cannot wrestle. He looked so unathletic. Not to mention he is the ugliest man alive.
- Goldberg cannot wrestle.
- Flair. Christ ... Flair needs to retire.
The only entertaining thing I saw was the footage from the ladder match between RVD and Christian.
The_Eviscerator said:What is Wrong with wrestling?
1. McMahons on television taking wrestlers spots on the card.
2. A-Train, Mark Henry, Big Show and any other large stiff that can't move and lacks charisma.
3. The burying of RVD. This guy is a star whether Vince wants to push him or not.
4. Kane "The Monster" getting beat up by Shane... stupid!
5. Commentators wrestling for announcing jobs... retarded!
6. Stephanie Mc Mahon on the writing team?
7. Guys like Triple H and Undertaker refusing to give a rub to the younger talent. For isntance... Booker T should have won the belt from Triple H when they had the build up for him. The fans were behind him and they wanted it. Instead he loses and gets buried in a feud with Christian.
8. Paul Heyman not being on a writing team.
9. Mick Foley not on the writing team.
10. Guys with no wrestling knowledge or knowledge of wrestling history on the writing teams.
I seriously hope NWA-TNA gets a TV contract and starts whipping WWE's ass. I have watched two of their pay per views and with a little better production their product could be superior.
Devastation said:
i agree with everything except the ladder match part. i think the whole thing sucked ass. i did like the previews for no mercy. lesnar is a fucking lunatic. he's also grew up 150 miles from me
rvd_brock said:
NWA-TNA is the worst crap I've seen in a while. It's worse than WCW in its decline. It will NEVER, mark my words NEVER supercede WWE. I do think that they need to push RVD, though, as well as getting rid of Kane. The top guys on Raw SHOULD be RVD/Triple H/Shawn Michaels (BEST worker of all time)/Chris Jericho/Booker T/and maybe Randy Orton. Goldberg/Steiner/Flair/Kane are either way past their prime or just horrific workers, and sure as hell not be pushed the most. Vince needs to stop having threesomes w/ Stephanie and Sable........it's clouding his mind.
Devastation said:gawd i hate lita. she sux so bad. on a side note that was pretty sweet when they destroyed that limo
rvd_brock said:First, let me tell you that you have NO IDEA about what you're talking about regarding Trish Stratus.
The_Eviscerator said:
My hopes for NWA TNA are purely a wish. I know it won't overtake WWE, but I would love to see it just to slap some sense into McMahon.
I agree with your assessment of Kane, Steiner, and Goldberg, but Flair is still a very good worker and can give a rub to guys like Maven (like he will do next week). I think Flair at 56 is a better worker than most guys on the roster. I think his flabby skin clouds peoples vision...lol. I think he should wear a shirt, but he still has some use and his promos are killer.
rvd_brock said:
Look to the future of WWE to be guys like RVD/Brock Lesnar/Kurt Angle/Chris Jericho/Edge (yes Edge)/The Rock (if he ever stops doing movies)/Matt Hardy/Shelton Benjamin/Charlie Haas.
MaGilicuti said:
lita is hot
Devastation said:
i agree with everything except the ladder match part. i think the whole thing sucked ass. i did like the previews for no mercy. lesnar is a fucking lunatic. he's also grew up 150 miles from me
~ThaGame~ said:I stopped watching RAW after HHH lost HIS title at unforgiven to that pussy Goldberg. i mean the guy comes in and does a few shows and he gets the fuckin belt off the bat? while you have stars like RVD, Booker t, kevin nash, etc who deserve it 10x more? i fuckin hate Goldberg
The_Eviscerator said:
I agree, but I think the Rock will be a once a year novelty act. He is moving on for sure. I would add Ryno and Benoit to your list.
I am so tired of seeing shitty matches with A-train or Test in them... The ladder match from 2 weeks ago was killer. RVD delivers in the ring. Give him a manager to work with to cover up his weak mic skills and he would be the top star. Heyman knew this and he teamed him up with Alphonso. RVD was the top star in ECW. When you think ECW, you think of RVD and maybe Sabu.
Devastation said:
she's what many would refer to around here as a "double bagger". one bag over her head and one over your's, just in case hers falls off
rvd_brock said:
Yea, that was bullshit. Goldberg doesn't even deserve a title SHOT. I have said, he's the absolute worst in-ring worker in WWE history. Not to mention being a clumsy ass bastard. The dumb motherfucker can't even walk down to the ring w/o falling over. Not to mention he's injured like 10 major superstars already because he's so careless in the ring. Vince should be castrated for putting the strap on Billy G No-Sell.
Kevin Nash sucks too, actually. He's got very crappy in-ring style now, and he seems to have lost all of his mic skills. He was cool back in the day as Diesel, but now he just plain sucks. Can't really work any kind of quality match. Remember that Hell in the Cell w/ HHH? Triple H carried him the entire match. It was sad shit.
AAP said:Randy orton has a faggoty looking face.
~ThaGame~ said:damn i didn't say he was good looking, triple h has a big nose and he's still the man.![]()
orton is a next generation superstar, his legs aren't that small either
~ThaGame~ said:
yeah nash is washed up but i'm a long time fan of the "kliq" the old skool group of guys that consisted of triple h, kevin nash, scott hall, and shawn micheals. so i like to support them as much as possible even though they all suck now besides tripleh.
i'm starting to really like randy orton though
The_Eviscerator said:Goldberg got the belt because that was one of the stipulations of his contract. He was guaranteed a title run. Goldberg is very popular with the casual wrestling fan, so I can see why he is getting a run at the title. You have to understand that most of us in this thread are far too knowledgeable about wrestling and WWE is hardly writing to please the hardcore fan... it is the average moron they are after... there are far more of those than us.
rvd_brock said:
Yea, sadly the average redneck moron that watches WWE doesn't know what makes a good match, or a good wrestler, or a good show. Sad, sad thing.
The_Eviscerator said:
Exactly... and it is the WWE's fault for this. By appealing to the lowest common denominator with necrophiliac angles, lingerie matches, beating old women up in the ring, and other brilliant dysfunctional McMahon family escapades... many fans have turned their backs to wrestling. In 1998 Raw and Nitro were pulling a 10+ rating combined. Now, Raw pulls 3.4 at best. Where did the fans go? Many WCW fans first tuned in to WWE to see what would happen to the WCW legacy and McMahon devalued it and basically destroyed part of his own company. Even when he wins through the buy out, he has to go too far and discredit WCW and it's wrestlers. Booker T was made a mid carder as soon as he came to WWE. A talent like Raven is misused and fired, Jerry Lynn an awesome and tireless worker is misused and fired. K-Kwik an enormous talent is misused and fired. RVD is being misused... he will be gone in the next year or so. Even when McMahon has talent he barely knows what to do with it.
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