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Women trouble... update...

artrius

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I mentioned this in another thread... but I just wanted to vent a little bit.

Here's the deal... When I met her, she wasn't over her ex. Apparently, he was really good looking and great in bed, which is pretty much all she talks about when she talks about him. Anyhow, I put up with listening about the guy for a while, then finally, after some time, it looked like she was over him. However, Last week when I dropped her off at the train station and we were waiting in my car, she started talking about him again... about how great he was in bed, some of their conversations, etc. She was GLOWING. She said that she was over him during that conversation, but I knew she wasn't.

So today rolls around, and she's been drinking (a lot more than her usual)... she calls me on the phone and starts talking about him again... telling me how upset she would be if her ex was having sex with another woman, how great he was in bed, etc. Then she goes and tells me that she doesn't think she's completely over him. Now I know she's getting drunk... but still... do I have something to worry about? I don't drink, so I wouldn't know how honest you are when you're drunk.

This is REALLY starting to get on my nerves, and I'm starting to wonder if this headache is really worth it. You guys may be right, that I should drop her like a hot potato. Opinions, please...
 
dump her like i said earlier
 
hamstershaver said:
lol wtf are you even thinking if shes keeps telling you how good the other guy banged her

I have NO idea what I'm thinking. That's why I'm getting pissed right now. :redhot:
 
Art,

You need some self-esteem, guy. There is no way in hell I would listen to a guy tell me how good looking and great in bed some other girl was while I was with him. ESPECIALLY if the guy knew that I had feelings for him.

You are officially in a fucked up situation and only you can get yourself out of it. Seriously.. kick her to the curb and find someone without so much emotional baggage. Sheesh.
 
aandd said:
Art,

You need some self-esteem, guy. There is no way in hell I would listen to a guy tell me how good looking and great in bed some other girl was while I was with him. ESPECIALLY if the guy knew that I had feelings for him.

You are officially in a fucked up situation and only you can get yourself out of it. Seriously.. kick her to the curb and find someone without so much emotional baggage. Sheesh.

I guess I tend to be a little too accomodating... hell, I knew that. I'm just too nice to tell someone that I don't want to hear their crap. I guess i just need to be an ass or something.

I think you're right... i guess I'm gonna have to have a talk with her...... :(
 
artrius said:
I mentioned this in another thread... but I just wanted to vent a little bit.

Here's the deal... When I met her, she wasn't over her ex. Apparently, he was really good looking and great in bed, which is pretty much all she talks about when she talks about him. Anyhow, I put up with listening about the guy for a while, then finally, after some time, it looked like she was over him. However, Last week when I dropped her off at the train station and we were waiting in my car, she started talking about him again... about how great he was in bed, some of their conversations, etc. She was GLOWING. She said that she was over him during that conversation, but I knew she wasn't.

So today rolls around, and she's been drinking (a lot more than her usual)... she calls me on the phone and starts talking about him again... telling me how upset she would be if her ex was having sex with another woman, how great he was in bed, etc. Then she goes and tells me that she doesn't think she's completely over him. Now I know she's getting drunk... but still... do I have something to worry about? I don't drink, so I wouldn't know how honest you are when you're drunk.

This is REALLY starting to get on my nerves, and I'm starting to wonder if this headache is really worth it. You guys may be right, that I should drop her like a hot potato. Opinions, please...


Dude she's too hung up on her ex, get out of there asap.
 
No, you don't need to be an ass or something. You need to be honest with yourself and love yourself. Leave this girl alone and move on. There are plenty of good women in the lovely state of Virginia that would love to have a man like you. Though, I suggest you take some time off. You just ended an engagment. Why are rushing to jump into something else? There is nothing wrong with being alone.
 
As a member of BITCHS I say drop the cunt.

To really rub it in skeet on her face, then get rid of her.
 
she's the one who needs to be alone for awhile...shut the door bro and go about your business....i would listen to that 1X, when you first meet someone, you always exchange information on past relatioinships and experiences, thats a given- but to continually go on and on everytime youre with her????....come on...thats not good for anyone.
 
nycgirl said:
No, you don't need to be an ass or something. You need to be honest with yourself and love yourself. Leave this girl alone and move on. There are plenty of good women in the lovely state of Virginia that would love to have a man like you. Though, I suggest you take some time off. You just ended an engagment. Why are rushing to jump into something else? There is nothing wrong with being alone.

I hope you're right, I just suck at meeting them. I'm a friggin introvert for the most part... well sort of... I'm just like every other guy. When I go to a store, I go there to get what I want and leave. I don't really stop and smell the roses... nor do I strike up conversations with people I don't know. :whatever:

Anyhow, I don't know... I've been alone for quite some time, outside of my recent engagement, and I like it better having, at least, a gf. Call me crazy... but its better to be talking to someone than to be sitting and watching TV all day and night...
 
PBR said:
she's the one who needs to be alone for awhile...shut the door bro and go about your business....i would listen to that 1X, when you first meet someone, you always exchange information on past relatioinships and experiences, thats a given- but to continually go on and on everytime youre with her????....come on...thats not good for anyone.

that's true... like I said... when she sobers up, we're gonna have a chat... not sure how its gonna go, but I'm gonna lay my cards on the table.
 
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bro, i hope the best for you...its a tough situation to be in and no fun, but you'll feel better about yourself once everything is up front and on the table...best of luck to you man...you'll be fine bro.
 
this is gonna be harsh, but the truth is you will be putting up with this for much longer...I've been in your shoes bor, this bitch broke your spine and she will have free reign to fuck with you...you say you'll walk away but I doubt you will...
...so with that dismal forecast, your only solution is to date this chopstickity hottie, fall in love with her, have her cheat/swindle/sex you and all your friends, have a broken heart for a year or so, then be fully recovered and a much better and wiser dude. So, you are looking at aprox 2 (including recovery time) years this bitch is going to take from you. But, alas, you will be a stronger bor.
 
Gambino said:
this is gonna be harsh, but the truth is you will be putting up with this for much longer...I've been in your shoes bor, this bitch broke your spine and she will have free reign to fuck with you...you say you'll walk away but I doubt you will...
...so with that dismal forecast, your only solution is to date this chopstickity hottie, fall in love with her, have her cheat/swindle/sex you and all your friends, have a broken heart for a year or so, then be fully recovered and a much better and wiser dude. So, you are looking at aprox 2 (including recovery time) years this bitch is going to take from you. But, alas, you will be a stronger bor.

yeah, saw that post in the other thread.... but thanks for the reminder. :)
 
bro, as someone who's just come out of a relationship, i too am hurting and thinking about the ex........i can empathise where she is at, and i know i can't give 100% to any other woman right now. If i can't give 100% to someone else, then it would be very selfish of me to dump my baggage on to someone else.

Are you just friends with her or has it gone past friendship? If it has gone past friendship and she is still talking openly to you about her ex, that's not right. But you need to realise that as good a guy as you might be and as much as you have to offer, she will not be ready for anything until she has had more time to get over her ex.
 
vinylgroover said:
bro, as someone who's just come out of a relationship, i too am hurting and thinking about the ex........i can empathise where she is at, and i know i can't give 100% to any other woman right now........

Are you just friends with her or has it gone past friendship? If it has gone past friendship and she is still talking openly to you about her ex, that's not right. But you need to realise that as good a guy as you might be and as much as you have to offer, she will not be ready for anything until she has had more time to get over her ex.

Well, we've been dating for a month or so now. She said a couple of times that she wanted to be with me (as in be my gf), but she wasn't sure just yet. I mean since the point that she told me she was over her ex, there was only the 2 instances of her going on about her ex, but still... she broke up with him a while back... i think 4-6 months ago? not really sure, but i've known her since early march or so, and she wasn't with him then... i think it might have been december when she broke up with him... Its been a while, but I guess it may just take more time.......
 
LMAO, you're even more pathetic than I am.


Dump her.
If any girl even still talks with their ex they are nothing but trouble for you.
 
artrius said:
lol...


well she just called me and apologized for saying those things, being drunk........ *sigh*

Vicious cycle.........I predict an endless pattern here......
 
artrius said:
Well, we've been dating for a month or so now. She said a couple of times that she wanted to be with me (as in be my gf), but she wasn't sure just yet. I mean since the point that she told me she was over her ex, there was only the 2 instances of her going on about her ex, but still... she broke up with him a while back... i think 4-6 months ago? not really sure, but i've known her since early march or so, and she wasn't with him then... i think it might have been december when she broke up with him... Its been a while, but I guess it may just take more time.......

well then you need to stop dating and just be 'friends' for a bit.......don't have as much contact with her and give her more time to really get over him and just get on with your life. You need to give yourself a chance bro........you don't want to be the rebound guy. And she should be honest enough not to put you through that.
 
alien amp pharm said:
LMAO, you're even more pathetic than I am.


Dump her.
If any girl even still talks with their ex they are nothing but trouble for you.

And you've moved waaaaay beyond pathetic if even lil aap says you're more pathetic than him.....
 
alien amp pharm said:
LMAO, you're even more pathetic than I am.


Dump her.
If any girl even still talks with their ex they are nothing but trouble for you.

Thanks for the moral support, assmunchkin. :splat:

no, you are right, though. And I don't mean just about the pathetic part, either :worried:
 
artrius said:
Well, we'll see what happens tomorrow... my god, this is turning into a regular soap opera... :xeye:

Don't you hex me when I'm trying to help you!!
 
SoKlueles said:
and thats saying alot

ok ok jeebus enough of comparing me to him, i'm seriously about to have to go sit in timeout and cry for a while if you guys keep this up :xeye:
 
dazzlindee said:
Dump her ass!! Life alone isn't all that bad!!

uhmmmm..... ok I know I'm only 22, but I've been living alone for a good while now... being in the military, I don't keep in touch with people that I used to know (not to mention I'm fairly new at my command)... also, all of the people I work with are EXTREMELY senior to me, not to mention married (and most have kids). So... my options are somewhat limited, especially since I'm a non-drinker, and I don't really party. Yes, I'm boring. I go to the gym, I practice martial arts, and I play the piano. That about sums up my life. :whatever:
 
artrius said:
ok ok jeebus enough of comparing me to him, i'm seriously about to have to go sit in timeout and cry for a while if you guys keep this up :xeye:

Look here, Biscuit, as the elder here -- I know better than you. You deserve better --> so get on with it!!
 
jenscats5 said:
Look here, Biscuit, as the elder here -- I know better than you. You deserve better --> so get on with it!!

Thanks mom ;) I know, she's drunk right now, so we'll talk tomorrow when she sobers up.
 
artrius said:
uhmmmm..... ok I know I'm only 22, but I've been living alone for a good while now... being in the military.

I'm in the same boat you're in. Not worth getting married while still serving your first 4 years, man. Truth be told there are not very many respectable women in military towns. Most are just looking for a free ride. Sad, but true.
 
artrius said:
Thanks mom ;) I know, she's drunk right now, so we'll talk tomorrow when she sobers up.

And in the long run, if you don't drink at all and she's all too often drunk then that'll be another problem to deal with.
 
Rex said:
I'm in the same boat you're in. Not worth getting married while still serving your first 4 years, man. Truth be told there are not very many respectable women in military towns. Most are just looking for a free ride. Sad, but true.

I've heard the same thing... some woman told me that back in the old days (when she was a kid, she's like 40 now, i think) that her parents told her to hook up with a military guy because they will get taken care of by the military, and if they ever get divorced, its easy to get a lot of stuff out of them. Now THAT'S messed up.
 
Rex said:
And in the long run, if you don't drink at all and she's all too often drunk then that'll be another problem to deal with.

This is actually her first time being drunk. She's always been a social drinker, but tonight, for some reason, she said she wanted to see what it was like to get drunk. I hope this isn't a regular occurrance...
 
artrius said:
I've heard the same thing... some woman told me that back in the old days (when she was a kid, she's like 40 now, i think) that her parents told her to hook up with a military guy because they will get taken care of by the military, and if they ever get divorced, its easy to get a lot of stuff out of them. Now THAT'S messed up.

It's true. I think I've come across one girl so far, in my 3 years of service, in a military town who was not looking for a free ride.

That's mostly the reason I don't even care to have a relationship while being in. It'd be nice, but not a concern. If a good gal happens to come along then so be it.
 
Art - everytime someone gives advice, you come up with an excuse for this girl or an excuse to be with her (ala the engagement thread). If you want to be with her,then be with her. But, we are not going to tell you want you want to hear.

w/ regard to meeting people, have you tried other options. How did you meet this girl? Internet?
 
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nycgirl said:
Art - everytime someone gives advice, you come up with an excuse for this girl or an excuse to be with her (ala the engagement thread). If you want to be with her,then be with her. But, we are not going to tell you want you want to hear.

w/ regard to meeting people, have you tried other options. How did you meet this girl? Internet?

*sigh* well I ermm... well... i'm not really... dammit... :( No, you're right, I need to hear what you guys are saying... i just don't want to believe it, i guess....

I'm still working on the other options thingie... well right now, I've been focusing on her, so I haven't been really bothering with other women. I guess I should take the kick in the butt to heart and try seeing some other women.
 
artrius said:
*sigh* well I ermm... well... i'm not really... dammit... :( No, you're right, I need to hear what you guys are saying... i just don't want to believe it, i guess....

I'm still working on the other options thingie... well right now, I've been focusing on her, so I haven't been really bothering with other women. I guess I should take the kick in the butt to heart and try seeing some other women.

Well, only you can make the right decision for yourself......I think you have some thinking to do.....

But we reserve the right to say "We told you so." LOL j/k
 
artrius said:
I'm still working on the other options thingie... well right now, I've been focusing on her, so I haven't been really bothering with other women. I guess I should take the kick in the butt to heart and try seeing some other women.

Don't get tunnel vision when dating a broad and have a "This is the one" mentality. Though you'd like it to be it, I myself get caught up in sometimes, but take a step back analyze the situation and make the decision, not reason why she does certain shit.
 
artrius said:
lol...


well she just called me and apologized for saying those things, being drunk........ *sigh*

*I apologize in advance. This is a bit harsh, but having been where you are when I was about your age... I'm hoping this gets through the haze that has enshrouded your brain*

Holy fuck. Where do you live, I'm going to come kick you in the ass. Who gives a shit if she apologized? She not only said it once, she has said it a LOT. Why are you stuck on this drama and heartache? Seriously?

You don't want to be rid of her. Everytime someone tells you they've been there and you are traveling down a bad road, you tell us how sweet she is, how confused she is, how blah blah whatever she is. Here's the point.... none, NONE , none of that matters. What matters is that she is not capable emotionally of committing to a r'ship with you. She has told you both directly and proven it indirectly.

I think one of two things. Either you A) have a White Knight syndrome and like rescuing damsals that you perceive to be hurt (emotionally as well as physically) or B) are attracted to this chick because she fucking SCREAMS "I'm not available for a real r'ship" and that way you KNOW what the outcome will be and you won't be as hurt when this r'ship fails.

You need to get rid of her and figure out why on earth you are so caught up in this, so that you can make sure you don't attract these type of people to you in the future.
 
Gambino said:
this is gonna be harsh, but the truth is you will be putting up with this for much longer...I've been in your shoes bor, this bitch broke your spine and she will have free reign to fuck with you...you say you'll walk away but I doubt you will...
...so with that dismal forecast, your only solution is to date this chopstickity hottie, fall in love with her, have her cheat/swindle/sex you and all your friends, have a broken heart for a year or so, then be fully recovered and a much better and wiser dude. So, you are looking at aprox 2 (including recovery time) years this bitch is going to take from you. But, alas, you will be a stronger bor.

Like the Budweiser commercial...."True, True"

(these are my thoughts as well....sorry, but good luck)

Can't imagine what you see in this girl....great body? Nothing, as far as you've told, could be worth the torment she is putting you through. She's drinks to much and is always talking about great her old BF was in bed...dude, is she even considering you? That's not the kinda talk you hear from an interested women...sounds like you're the crying shoulder friend that she need at this moment.

Time to move on, unless you really want to "fill those shoes"....hope your the right size.

Peace.
 
get out of that situation now.

she is using you as her cuddle bitch - no man deserves this title (well maybe aap...).

the worse thing is, it sounds like she is still banging him as well.

get out of there fast.
 
aandd said:
*I apologize in advance. This is a bit harsh, but having been where you are when I was about your age... I'm hoping this gets through the haze that has enshrouded your brain*

Holy fuck. Where do you live, I'm going to come kick you in the ass. Who gives a shit if she apologized? She not only said it once, she has said it a LOT. Why are you stuck on this drama and heartache? Seriously?

You don't want to be rid of her. Everytime someone tells you they've been there and you are traveling down a bad road, you tell us how sweet she is, how confused she is, how blah blah whatever she is. Here's the point.... none, NONE , none of that matters. What matters is that she is not capable emotionally of committing to a r'ship with you. She has told you both directly and proven it indirectly.

I think one of two things. Either you A) have a White Knight syndrome and like rescuing damsals that you perceive to be hurt (emotionally as well as physically) or B) are attracted to this chick because she fucking SCREAMS "I'm not available for a real r'ship" and that way you KNOW what the outcome will be and you won't be as hurt when this r'ship fails.

You need to get rid of her and figure out why on earth you are so caught up in this, so that you can make sure you don't attract these type of people to you in the future.

I live in VA. :) come kick it, please.

No, seriously, I'm not defending her anymore... I'm getting quite annoyed with her, and like I said, we're gonna have a chat here REAL soon about this.

I know why i'm caught up with her... its because its easy. Plain and simple. Pathetic, but true. The deal is, like I said, I SUCK at meeting women. That means if I drop her, i have to start AAAAAAAALLLLLLLLL over again with this whole painful process. Yes, like I said, I know its pathetic, and I just need to get my ass over it. I'm gonna have to, because I've got to drop her. That, I feel, is the whole reason I'm trying to defend her. (well that and she is pretty hot ;) )
 
squatpuke said:
Like the Budweiser commercial...."True, True"

(these are my thoughts as well....sorry, but good luck)

Can't imagine what you see in this girl....great body? Nothing, as far as you've told, could be worth the torment she is putting you through. She's drinks to much and is always talking about great her old BF was in bed...dude, is she even considering you? That's not the kinda talk you hear from an interested women...sounds like you're the crying shoulder friend that she need at this moment.

Time to move on, unless you really want to "fill those shoes"....hope your the right size.

Peace.

Yeah, she told me that i'm actually the first guy she was friends with before being in a relationship with (and best friends, too...). She tells me everything, because I actually LISTEN to her, and I try to see it from her POV. So yeah, I pretty much am the crying shoulder friend that she has, because her other friends have their own big problems and she really can't go to them about it. Still though, it does not excuse what she's been saying to me about her ex and all, especially when she is dating me. (I'm not defending her here, just explaining...)
 
Spanky11 said:
get out of that situation now.

she is using you as her cuddle bitch - no man deserves this title (well maybe aap...).

the worse thing is, it sounds like she is still banging him as well.

get out of there fast.

Well it sounds like she kind of wants to, but she can't, because he's in another state right now, and he's soon going to Iraq. :whatever:

I hate to sound :rainbow: , but I don't mind the cuddling... :xeye:
 
Obviously you haven't fucked her. There is your dilemma. Bump nasty's and then tell her she sucks in bed. She'll call you and she'll want you. Do it, do it.
 
Well, we can tell you to dump her until our faces turn blue in the face.....but in the end tis you that has to make the decision
You need to do something, either stay with her and be miserable or dump her and be sad for a while
 
artrius said:
Well it sounds like she kind of wants to, but she can't, because he's in another state right now, and he's soon going to Iraq. :whatever:

I hate to sound :rainbow: , but I don't mind the cuddling... :xeye:


have you even had sexual realtions with this woman in question?
 
Dood!

don't make freaking excuses for her....

here's my .02 on being drunk and doing things... The thought was there before she downed that damn drink and became tipsy.. she just didn't have the balls to say everything sober. When you are intoxicated you are loosened up alot... She just didn't make it all up because she had one to many to drink.

she'd done this over and over.. If she so damn comfortable with you that she can openly discuss her past sex life with her x and then go overboard and tell you how great he was in bed then.. my dear... you are already in that 'friend' catagory. She doens't want to be alone..

You see society puts pressure on women more than men... If we want the pleausure of sex we feel we have to be in a relationship and often times we end up trapped in something we don't want because we get comfortable and we are getting some of the things we want without having to lower our standards and don't have to be worried about what others have to say because we are fulfilling our needs with another random fuck.

I don't want to seem harsh... BUT.. sweetie, she's hung up on her X, she wants instant gratification without having that 'hooch' hung over her head ... YOU are there, availiable and willing to put up with her shit until she either (A) Gets back with her X or (B) you open your eyes and realize that this situation won't get better and that you are just being used for both Sex and compaionship... Most men would love to be just used for Sex.. uh huh but the way I see you is that you want more..

OPEN your eyes before you get way to deep with this one and she walks on you... don't give her that opportunity. End it while you still can without hurting too bad. Yes it will be painful at first but I guarantee its gonna be less painful now than later when she walks on you to be with her X that is so good in bed.

I seriously DON'T get women like that.. grrrrrrr.... Don't be so blinded by companionship, that you don't realize that you are her friend... one with benifits.. yet still just her friend. She still is hung up on another man, do you seriously want to waste time with her when you may be missing an opportunity with someone else that will appreciate you, respect you and love you back?

think about it sugar :rose:
 
Frisky said:
Dood!

don't make freaking excuses for her....

here's my .02 on being drunk and doing things... The thought was there before she downed that damn drink and became tipsy.. she just didn't have the balls to say everything sober. When you are intoxicated you are loosened up alot... She just didn't make it all up because she had one to many to drink.

she'd done this over and over.. If she so damn comfortable with you that she can openly discuss her past sex life with her x and then go overboard and tell you how great he was in bed then.. my dear... you are already in that 'friend' catagory. She doens't want to be alone..

You see society puts pressure on women more than men... If we want the pleausure of sex we feel we have to be in a relationship and often times we end up trapped in something we don't want because we get comfortable and we are getting some of the things we want without having to lower our standards and don't have to be worried about what others have to say because we are fulfilling our needs with another random fuck.

I don't want to seem harsh... BUT.. sweetie, she's hung up on her X, she wants instant gratification without having that 'hooch' hung over her head ... YOU are there, availiable and willing to put up with her shit until she either (A) Gets back with her X or (B) you open your eyes and realize that this situation won't get better and that you are just being used for both Sex and compaionship... Most men would love to be just used for Sex.. uh huh but the way I see you is that you want more..

OPEN your eyes before you get way to deep with this one and she walks on you... don't give her that opportunity. End it while you still can without hurting too bad. Yes it will be painful at first but I guarantee its gonna be less painful now than later when she walks on you to be with her X that is so good in bed.

I seriously DON'T get women like that.. grrrrrrr.... Don't be so blinded by companionship, that you don't realize that you are her friend... one with benifits.. yet still just her friend. She still is hung up on another man, do you seriously want to waste time with her when you may be missing an opportunity with someone else that will appreciate you, respect you and love you back?

think about it sugar :rose:

Very true... like I said, we're gonna have a talk today.... and I think i'm gonna end it...
 
sawastea said:
Obviously you haven't fucked her. There is your dilemma. Bump nasty's and then tell her she sucks in bed. She'll call you and she'll want you. Do it, do it.

Read my above post :)
 
man this thread makes my blood boil...i wish i had this chicks number cause if i did i would dial her up and explain to her how much of a trick she is...friend i have been in your exact same shoes, same size and everything...you are guaranteed to get burned like i did, don't let this jap trick walk away with the upper hand, be a man, make up for my unmanlyness regarding a similiar situation. please
 
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